Everything Wrong with the Kuruption album? How to fix it…

[TraceOneInfinite]

Said no one ever. 2001 is an iconic album. Everyone knows what 2001 is. Anyone who doesn’t know is a goofy nerd or ignorant asshole

okay go try it then.. just say casually in conversation to someone that "2001" is one of your favorites. 

[Duck Duck Doggy]

okay go try it then.. just say casually in conversation to someone that "2001" is one of your favorites.

Ok difference is I’m in California and you’re in the Arab gulf so results may vary. Sccit is coming over in an hour so I’ll have him film me approach random strangers. Let’s try it out

[TraceOneInfinite]

Ok difference is I’m in California and you’re in the Arab gulf so results may vary. Sccit is coming over in an hour so I’ll have him film me approach random strangers. Let’s try it out

That would be dope if you got thru with it.  And you have to state it like this.

You can set it up by asking, “what’s your favorite music?”

Then reply to their answer saying, “2001 has gotta be up there as one of my favorites”

[Jay_J]

I agree with infinite again. Album title could be smth else better than 2001. But i have more problem with the album cover. Is it suge knight's fault too? )))

Although worst album cover and a confusing meaningless album title, the chronic 2001 (actually thats what everybody calls it that way instead 2001) was sooo fucking good to make people doesnt care about the cover or title.

[Soopafly DPGC]

The full story is it was supposed to be called Chronic 2000, Suge beat him to the punch.  Dre changed it to Chronic 2001, but the lawyers felt actually calling it Chronic 2001 was too close to Chronic 2000 and could create confusion in the marketplace and actually give Suge more sales and possible lawsuit material, as Dre already had to sue Suge for having the Dre vocals originally on Chronic 2000 and he was forced to remove them.  So, Dre's team creatively came up with the idea to put a Chronic leaf, followed by the '2001'.  But make no mistake, the album was always supposed to be called Chronic 2001.  On the song 'Light Speed' it they lyrics even say Chronic 2001. 

[Jay_J]

Lets get back to real issue. Kuruption.

Problem is quantity over quality.

It should be one disc, a side is west coast and b side is east coast.

I dont agree who says east coast disc was unnecessary.

Because, before the east-west beef kurupt was mentioning he is an east coast rapper a few times. He was one of a few lyricists on the west coast and he was trying show his skills to east coast to gain respect to his pen. When you compare his lyrics on east disc with west disc. He is more lyrical, different flows and complexed rhyme shemes. So i understand why he came up with an east coast disc. But only a b side would be enough. Same as west disc, too many fillers.

[Jay_J]

The full story is it was supposed to be called Chronic 2000, Suge beat him to the punch.  Dre changed it to Chronic 2001, but the lawyers felt actually calling it Chronic 2001 was too close to Chronic 2000 and could create confusion in the marketplace and actually give Suge more sales and possible lawsuit material, as Dre already had to sue Suge for having the Dre vocals originally on Chronic 2000 and he was forced to remove them.  So, Dre's team creatively came up with the idea to put a Chronic leaf, followed by the '2001'.  But make no mistake, the album was always supposed to be called Chronic 2001.  On the song 'Light Speed' it they lyrics even say Chronic 2001.

Also known as chronic 2001: no seeds

[HighEyeCue]

Lets get back to real issue. Kuruption.

Problem is quantity over quality.

It should be one disc, a side is west coast and b side is east coast.

I dont agree who says east coast disc was unnecessary.

Because, before the east-west beef kurupt was mentioning he is an east coast rapper a few times. He was one of a few lyricists on the west coast and he was trying show his skills to east coast to gain respect to his pen. When you compare his lyrics on east disc with west disc. He is more lyrical, different flows and complexed rhyme shemes. So i understand why he came up with an east coast disc. But only a b side would be enough. Same as west disc, too many fillers.

I don’t know man. I agree with you about his east coast lyrical MCing as evident by the “Tru Master” verse and his “You Know My Steez” remix verse that same ‘98 year. But on the East Coast disc I don’t hear anything resembling that. Mostly him just freestyling and very little writing similar to the West disc. The difference being the West disc had very dope production as well as great guest spots and 2 all time west coast anthems “We Can Freak It” and “C-walk”

[Sccit]

The full story is it was supposed to be called Chronic 2000, Suge beat him to the punch.  Dre changed it to Chronic 2001, but the lawyers felt actually calling it Chronic 2001 was too close to Chronic 2000 and could create confusion in the marketplace and actually give Suge more sales and possible lawsuit material, as Dre already had to sue Suge for having the Dre vocals originally on Chronic 2000 and he was forced to remove them.  So, Dre's team creatively came up with the idea to put a Chronic leaf, followed by the '2001'.  But make no mistake, the album was always supposed to be called Chronic 2001.  On the song 'Light Speed' it they lyrics even say Chronic 2001.

the 1 on light speed was added later

[TraceOneInfinite]

I agree with infinite again. Album title could be smth else better than 2001. But i have more problem with the album cover. Is it suge knight's fault too? )))

Although worst album cover and a confusing meaningless album title, the chronic 2001 (actually thats what everybody calls it that way instead 2001) was sooo fucking good to make people doesnt care about the cover or title.

Word.

And notice, you even had to change the title to mention it at the forum.  I often do the same thing too.  I'll refer to it as "Dre's second solo".  And like HighEyecue said, sometimes they say "Dre 2001" and sometimes they say, "Dr. Dre 2001".

And also saying "2001" isn't actually like that futuristic.  The first year of the new millenium is 2000.  So if you want to give it millennium significance (which is a big deal) then you need to say 2000.  Saying 2001 doesn't make it more futuristic.  It just makes it more confusing.

And yeah.. what's with the cover.  It was like just plain black cover.  And this is Dre we are talking about.  If Dre doesn't have the idea then he finds the right guy with the right idea.  They couldn't come up with any good idea for the title and cover—they just gave up after Suge punked him

[Sccit]

Word.

And notice, you even had to change the title to mention it at the forum.  I often do the same thing too.  I'll refer to it as "Dre's second solo".  And like HighEyecue said, sometimes they say "Dre 2001" and sometimes they say, "Dr. Dre 2001".

And also saying "2001" isn't actually like that futuristic.  The first year of the new millenium is 2000.  So if you want to give it millennium significance (which is a big deal) then you need to say 2000.  Saying 2001 doesn't make it more futuristic.  It just makes it more confusing.

And yeah.. what's with the cover.  It was like just plain black cover.  And this is Dre we are talking about.  If Dre doesn't have the idea then he finds the right guy with the right idea.  They couldn't come up with any good idea for the title and cover—they just gave up after Suge punked him

naah .. the new millennium started on 2001

can't start something on 0

[HighEyeCue]

was listening to the West Coast Disc last night and caught a Will Smith diss that I had almost forgotten about

On "Fresh" there's a line "You know I'm the rawest MC with it, Fuck jiggy nigga, I'm DP with it"

DP as in Dogg Pound, Daz and Kurupt

[Jay_J]

was listening to the West Coast Disc last night and caught a Will Smith diss that I had almost forgotten about

On "Fresh" there's a line "You know I'm the rawest MC with it, Fuck jiggy nigga, I'm DP with it"

DP as in Dogg Pound, Daz and Kurupt

 

[TraceOneInfinite]

naah .. the new millennium started on 2001

can't start something on 0

you just blew my mind again (it's above my ability to comprehend)

[TraceOneInfinite]

was listening to the West Coast Disc last night and caught a Will Smith diss that I had almost forgotten about

On "Fresh" there's a line "You know I'm the rawest MC with it, Fuck jiggy nigga, I'm DP with it"

DP as in Dogg Pound, Daz and Kurupt

 

That line I caught, but I didn't take it as a Will Smith diss. 

I suppose it depends on the intent behind it, and the relationship between Will Smith and the Dogg Pound.  I've never heard either side speak on anything, but my guess is they probably hung out at some parties together and they are at the awards shows together so they are probably cool with each other.  But could be.  Remember, Will Smith blew up that summer with all those shitty pop songs like "Miama" (which I think Nas wrote for him) and of course "Gettin Jiggy With It" a painful song they never stopped playing.  But I did like the summer 98' hit video "Just the Two of Us".  The line:



One day some girl's gonna break your heart son/
Ain't no pain like the opposite sex/
but don't take it out on the next one"

Too bad I didn't heed that advice, because I started acting like a dickhead to all girls after my first heartbreak and couldn't even get laid in my physical prime of age 19—I still marvel at the fact I went the entire age 19 without getting laid once.  But Will Smith's son ended up even worse than me... that dude fantasizing about Tyler the Creator these days, smh