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Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« on: September 03, 2025, 07:12:23 PM »
2 Corinthians 6:8
By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;

6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;

6:10
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
 

Sccit

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2025, 08:24:16 PM »
first of all, there are jews of all races ..

the most prominent in israel are mizrahi jews (middle eastern)

the most prominent in america are ashkenazi jews (european)

but Judaism is an ethnoreligion .. meaning you can tell if people are jewish based on dna

all jews share the same gene that connects them to the levant via the israelites

ashkenazi jews have less of this gene due to spending thousands of years adapting to europe (food, weather, culture) and intermixing with the europeans over time

but at the end of the day, a jew is a jew 

Sccit

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2025, 08:44:29 PM »
even ashkenazi jews .. who are mostly white passing, generally do not like to be categorized as white

why?

very simple



why would they wana be grouped in with the same people who tried to exterminate them based on them being different race?

so the reason they look more white .. 1.many of them intermixed with europeans, meaning they actually do have some white ancestry 2.many of them evolved in europe via spending thousands of years adapting to the weather, food, and overall culture

but now when we talk about the mizrahi jews, here we see a clear distinction and easily identifiable characteristics that distinguish them from white people tenfold


you have 2 types of anti-semites on the opposite end of the spectrum regarding this topic ... the one who denies jews have anything to do with the caucasian race (nazis) and the one who denies jews are their own race (radical islamists)



abusive

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2025, 07:14:41 AM »
So if someone converts to the jewish religion, their DNA will change and they will be a Jew. Cool story. Thanks for killing the race concept though. Clearly if their are Jews of all races, then being a Jew isn't a race in of itself. That's the point the video is making.
2 Corinthians 6:8
By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;

6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;

6:10
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
 

Sccit

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2025, 07:24:00 AM »
So if someone converts to the jewish religion, their DNA will change and they will be a Jew. Cool story. Thanks for killing the race concept though. Clearly if their are Jews of all races, then being a Jew isn't a race in of itself. That's the point the video is making.


i think everything i said just went over your head

unlike christians and muslims, jews don't proselytize, which is why there's a jewish gene tied to the levant

we've generally been able to maintain our own distinct genetics, hence why a 23andme or ancestry.com testing includes "jewish" genetics in their terminology

so while a convert will not have the jewish gene, a vast majority of jews do, since converts are rare in our religion

for instance, by halakha (jewish law) a rabbi has to turn you down 3 times before agreeing to convert you .. and after that it's approximately a 3 year process of grueling work to complete conversion, which most don't ever complete  .. unlike christianity who forced their religion on the masses, and muslims who convert people with one sentence, and much of the time by force or coercion

that's why judaism is considered an ethno-religion .. look it up if u don't believe me

meaning, yes, there are jews of various races (black, middle eastern, hispanic, white etc.) .. but the ones who aren't converts (the vast majority) still have a jewish genetic makeup that ties them together.. race is a made up social construct to begin with, but just like steph curry and michael blackson share a black gene while basically appearing as 2 different races due to intermixing and societal adaption, jewishness is the same.

abusive

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2025, 07:43:46 AM »
2 Corinthians 6:8
By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;

6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;

6:10
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
 

Sccit

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2025, 08:06:34 AM »



"we woke TV"


 :dead:


black people originate in africa .. they are not "semitic" by origin. many later became semitic when the arabs conquered north africa and spread their culture there. the opposite of what happened to jews who were exiled and settled in europe, losing much of their original semitic identity there.

same ol culture vulture identity crisis ego driven "we was the original (fill in the blank) n shit!" bs

abusive

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2025, 07:19:07 PM »
You're a very confused man.

Moses was African. You know, the guy who wrote the Torah? The guy who married the Ethiopian?

So by your logic he was of the Black race (since he was african), no wait a minute, he was of the Jewish race because he was a Jew but Blacks aren't the real Jews even though there are Jews of all races. Which would mean some would be Black. lol You're just grasping at straws, even using evolutionary theory to prove your point and you're digging yourself into a deeper hole of FAIL with every post.
2 Corinthians 6:8
By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;

6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;

6:10
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
 

Sccit

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2025, 07:38:25 PM »
You're a very confused man.

Moses was African. You know, the guy who wrote the Torah? The guy who married the Ethiopian?

So by your logic he was of the Black race (since he was african), no wait a minute, he was of the Jewish race because he was a Jew but Blacks aren't the real Jews even though there are Jews of all races. Which would mean some would be Black. lol You're just grasping at straws, even using evolutionary theory to prove your point and you're digging yourself into a deeper hole of FAIL with every post.

took you a while to think up this reply lmao

but no, moses was not african homie .. he married an african which literally got him slandered by his family in the torah (the curse of tzarat), proving furthermore he obviously wasn't african

and my explanation about jewish geneology was pretty clear cut, you're just not intelligent enough to wrap your mind around it unfortunately


abusive

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2025, 10:17:03 AM »
took you a while to think up this reply lmao

but no, moses was not african homie .. he married an african which literally got him slandered by his family in the torah (the curse of tzarat), proving furthermore he obviously wasn't african

and my explanation about jewish geneology was pretty clear cut, you're just not intelligent enough to wrap your mind around it unfortunately
Nah, I have a life.

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black people originate in africa
Moses was born and raised in Eygpt. We've already gone over this. Therefore he was an African and according to you he was black. That proves that the issue with his wife wasn't due to her being African because they both were.

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unlike christianity who forced their religion on the masses
Christians didn't force their beliefs on the masses.
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Matthew 10:14
“And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.”

It doesn't say to kill them or to force them. You are just to keep it pushing.
You can't find me one new testament scripture that even remotely says anything like you have alleged. You are speaking out of ignorance. Matter of fact, so me some scriptures that do.
2 Corinthians 6:8
By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;

6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;

6:10
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
 

Bossplaya369

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2025, 11:20:41 AM »
Jewish

Is it a nationality or confession?
 

Sccit

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2025, 12:04:16 PM »
Nah, I have a life.
Moses was born and raised in Eygpt. We've already gone over this. Therefore he was an African and according to you he was black. That proves that the issue with his wife wasn't due to her being African because they both were.
Christians didn't force their beliefs on the masses.
It doesn't say to kill them or to force them. You are just to keep it pushing.
You can't find me one new testament scripture that even remotely says anything like you have alleged. You are speaking out of ignorance. Matter of fact, so me some scriptures that do.


naah don't play that "i have a life" game

because u were replying to other stuff for days after my last post .. u were just at a loss for words in real time


egypt was a multi cultural/multi racial nation.. this is not a secret and has been proven with archeological evidence


Christianity has been involved in forced conversions at various times throughout history. While the core teachings of Christianity emphasize free will and voluntary faith, in practice, some Christian leaders, empires, and institutions have used coercion, violence, or political pressure to convert people. Here are some notable examples:
🏰 Medieval Europe & Charlemagne (8th–9th centuries)
Charlemagne, the King of the Franks, led campaigns to convert the Saxons in present-day Germany. Those who resisted were sometimes killed, exiled, or forcibly baptized.
The Capitulatio de partibus Saxoniae (a legal code) included death penalties for refusing baptism or practicing pagan rituals.
🇪🇸 Spanish Inquisition & Colonialism (15th–17th centuries)
In Spain, Jews and Muslims were pressured to convert or face expulsion or execution.
During colonization of the Americas, the Spanish and Portuguese empires forced indigenous populations to convert, often alongside the destruction of native religions and cultures.
Missionaries sometimes genuinely believed they were saving souls, but the methods often involved coercion, suppression of native languages, and cultural erasure.
🌍 Africa and Asia (Colonial Period)
In many colonized regions, European Christian missionaries accompanied imperial powers.
While many conversions were voluntary or semi-voluntary, the imbalance of power, economic dependency, or pressure from colonial administrators often played a role.
⛪ Eastern Europe & Russia
In some cases, Orthodox Christianity was used to pressure conversions in territories conquered by the Russian Empire.
Similarly, in Poland-Lithuania, religious policies shifted over time, and at some points, non-Catholics were pressured to convert.
🧭 Crusades (1095–1291)
The primary goal was to reclaim Christian control over the Holy Land, but in some cases, non-Christians were given the choice of conversion or death, particularly during massacres of Jews and Muslims.

abusive

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2025, 03:50:35 PM »

naah don't play that "i have a life" game

because u were replying to other stuff for days after my last post .. u were just at a loss for words in real time


egypt was a multi cultural/multi racial nation.. this is not a secret and has been proven with archeological evidence


Christianity has been involved in forced conversions at various times throughout history. While the core teachings of Christianity emphasize free will and voluntary faith, in practice, some Christian leaders, empires, and institutions have used coercion, violence, or political pressure to convert people. Here are some notable examples:
🏰 Medieval Europe & Charlemagne (8th–9th centuries)
Charlemagne, the King of the Franks, led campaigns to convert the Saxons in present-day Germany. Those who resisted were sometimes killed, exiled, or forcibly baptized.
The Capitulatio de partibus Saxoniae (a legal code) included death penalties for refusing baptism or practicing pagan rituals.
🇪🇸 Spanish Inquisition & Colonialism (15th–17th centuries)
In Spain, Jews and Muslims were pressured to convert or face expulsion or execution.
During colonization of the Americas, the Spanish and Portuguese empires forced indigenous populations to convert, often alongside the destruction of native religions and cultures.
Missionaries sometimes genuinely believed they were saving souls, but the methods often involved coercion, suppression of native languages, and cultural erasure.
🌍 Africa and Asia (Colonial Period)
In many colonized regions, European Christian missionaries accompanied imperial powers.
While many conversions were voluntary or semi-voluntary, the imbalance of power, economic dependency, or pressure from colonial administrators often played a role.
⛪ Eastern Europe & Russia
In some cases, Orthodox Christianity was used to pressure conversions in territories conquered by the Russian Empire.
Similarly, in Poland-Lithuania, religious policies shifted over time, and at some points, non-Catholics were pressured to convert.
🧭 Crusades (1095–1291)
The primary goal was to reclaim Christian control over the Holy Land, but in some cases, non-Christians were given the choice of conversion or death, particularly during massacres of Jews and Muslims.
Egypt is still in Africa. I'm going by what you said. You equate Africa with black people. The Israelites were in Egypt for four hundred years as well.

But again, if Jews come in different races and Egypt was multi racial, how come Moses couldn't be Black?

The majority if not all of what you posted for evidence of Christian force is Roman Catholic. I'm pretty sure all of it is.
2 Corinthians 6:8
By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;

6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;

6:10
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
 

Sccit

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2025, 04:40:40 PM »
Egypt is still in Africa. I'm going by what you said. You equate Africa with black people. The Israelites were in Egypt for four hundred years as well.

But again, if Jews come in different races and Egypt was multi racial, how come Moses couldn't be Black?

The majority if not all of what you posted for evidence of Christian force is Roman Catholic. I'm pretty sure all of it is.

moses couldn't be black because him marrying a black woman was made into a story in the bible .. the story would make zero sense if he himself was black

catholicism is a form of christianity

abusive

Re: Jewish or White? - Ben Shaprio its a religion
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2025, 09:20:27 AM »
moses couldn't be black because him marrying a black woman was made into a story in the bible .. the story would make zero sense if he himself was black

catholicism is a form of christianity
The biblical story didn't mention either one of them being black. You assume that Moses was white and his wife was black and that was the issue with them marrying. The issue wasn't mentioned. I suspect it was because Moses himself wasn't Ethiopian. It's common throughout the scriptures for people to want their family to marry those of the same country or land and in some cases their own family. There is zero context for people choosing or rejecting someone based off of their skin color. Especially in this situation.

Roman Catholicism and Christianity are two different religions. That's like me saying the the Hebrew Israelites and Judaism are the same religion. Only someone ignorant of history would say that they're the same.

The information in the videos still stands though. Nothing and I mean nothing you've said has refuted them.
2 Corinthians 6:8
By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;

6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;

6:10
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.