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for sure Kobe was MJ’s successor…but I think Pennys scoring would have increased without Shaq on the team…then again when he went to Phoenix it actually decreased if I remember correctly

he wasn’t a great defender though you’re right

he was a pass first guy bro

the year shaq left he was still healthy and averaged 20 ppg

his career high is 42 points

mj and kobe had entire months averaging that lol
 

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well shaq needed a kobe level co-star and while penny was great, he was no kobe

penny hardaway was pissed when shaq left for the paper 
and a teenager outa philly would become the greatest laker
back to back to back yea there's a new goat in town
bill walton said throw it down big man throw it down

Penny never had that Jordan and Kobe level jumper. 

He could shoot, dribble, drive, dunk on an almost Kobe and Jordan level.  He actually was a better passer than Kobe and Jordan as a point guard that was nearly 6'9" is like Magic Johnson.  But the one big thing that set Jordan and Kobe apart from everyone else was that they had that jumper they could pretty much go to and get a decent shot off on any and every possession.  That Jordan jumper never gets talked about enough. 

Other aspects like Jordan and Kobe being great finishers, you had guys like Scottie and Penny that were also great finishers—and even Ron Harper and Kukoc a really good finisher.  That's another aspect that doesn't get talked about enough when people talk about those great Bulls teams was how they made it look so easy finishing around the basket—that if they gained the slightest advantage over the defense they cashed in nearly every time. 
 

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Penny never had that Jordan and Kobe level jumper. 

He could shoot, dribble, drive, dunk on an almost Kobe and Jordan level.  He actually was a better passer than Kobe and Jordan as a point guard that was nearly 6'9" is like Magic Johnson.  But the one big thing that set Jordan and Kobe apart from everyone else was that they had that jumper they could pretty much go to and get a decent shot off on any and every possession.  That Jordan jumper never gets talked about enough. 

Other aspects like Jordan and Kobe being great finishers, you had guys like Scottie and Penny that were also great finishers—and even Ron Harper and Kukoc a really good finisher.  That's another aspect that doesn't get talked about enough when people talk about those great Bulls teams was how they made it look so easy finishing around the basket—that if they gained the slightest advantage over the defense they cashed in nearly every time.

Kobe had the best range of all those shooters too...he not only was a successor to MJ but an improved version
he was a pass first guy bro

the year shaq left he was still healthy and averaged 20 ppg

his career high is 42 points

mj and kobe had entire months averaging that lol

only 42?  damn

yeah I remember Mike averaged like 37 one year early on I think before Pippen was drafted...and Kobe had a similar year as well one season
 

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Kobe had the best range of all those shooters too...he not only was a successor to MJ but an improved version



absolutely
 

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Penny never had that Jordan and Kobe level jumper. 

He could shoot, dribble, drive, dunk on an almost Kobe and Jordan level.  He actually was a better passer than Kobe and Jordan as a point guard that was nearly 6'9" is like Magic Johnson.  But the one big thing that set Jordan and Kobe apart from everyone else was that they had that jumper they could pretty much go to and get a decent shot off on any and every possession.  That Jordan jumper never gets talked about enough. 

Other aspects like Jordan and Kobe being great finishers, you had guys like Scottie and Penny that were also great finishers—and even Ron Harper and Kukoc a really good finisher.  That's another aspect that doesn't get talked about enough when people talk about those great Bulls teams was how they made it look so easy finishing around the basket—that if they gained the slightest advantage over the defense they cashed in nearly every time.

beyond just skill, kobe n mj were cut from a different cloth in terms or work ethic and will
 

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Kobe had the best range of all those shooters too...he not only was a successor to MJ but an improved version
only 42?  damn

yeah I remember Mike averaged like 37 one year early on I think before Pippen was drafted...and Kobe had a similar year as well one season

Shit man I had to look that up... Forgot that MJ actually AVERAGED 37 one season.  I need to go back and watch a game of that team on youtube because that scoring average is insane.  That would be most guys career best scoring night
 

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Shit man I had to look that up... Forgot that MJ actually AVERAGED 37 one season.  I need to go back and watch a game of that team on youtube because that scoring average is insane.  That would be most guys career best scoring night

kobe average 35.6 in the dead ball era where his team averaged 95 ppg


actually more impressive in terms of ratio
 

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kobe average 35.6 in the dead ball era where his team averaged 95 ppg


actually more impressive in terms of ratio

I know this won’t be enough for you but I give it up to Kobe as being the only legit heir (air) apparent to Jordan.  And there were so many marketed over the years to be the next Jordan, just off top…

Vince Carter
Penny
Grant Hill (he had a bigger push than you guys think)
Lebron
Tracy McGrady
Derrick Rose

And I’m sure I’m forgetting a dozen others.  Nobody came close except Kobe didn’t just come close he actually was the legit heir apparent to Mike.  Now of course that doesn’t mean I am putting Kobe over Mike.

Mike is my childhood hero along with He-Man, Hogan, Prime, Daz, Tyson, Balboa, Teen Wolf (who was also a really great baller at a highschool level led his team to the state championship and then bailed so Scott could get some shine).  If Teen Wolf 🐺 had continued basketball 🏀 and not switched to boxing 🥊 for Teen Wolf 2 they say he would’ve been a better college player than Jordan was at North Carolina.  And who knows what would’ve happened in the NBA.
 

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Shit man I had to look that up... Forgot that MJ actually AVERAGED 37 one season.  I need to go back and watch a game of that team on youtube because that scoring average is insane.  That would be most guys career best scoring night

crazy…I was too young to experience any of it at the time but I did catch some You Tube games

kobe average 35.6 in the dead ball era where his team averaged 95 ppg


actually more impressive in terms of ratio

that I remember well…I think it was the season he dropped the 81 but I could be wrong…probably the greatest season I have watched any NBA player have
 

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I know this won’t be enough for you but I give it up to Kobe as being the only legit heir (air) apparent to Jordan.  And there were so many marketed over the years to be the next Jordan, just off top…

Vince Carter
Penny
Grant Hill (he had a bigger push than you guys think)
Lebron
Tracy McGrady
Derrick Rose

And I’m sure I’m forgetting a dozen others.  Nobody came close except Kobe didn’t just come close he actually was the legit heir apparent to Mike.  Now of course that doesn’t mean I am putting Kobe over Mike.

Mike is my childhood hero along with He-Man, Hogan, Prime, Daz, Tyson, Balboa, Teen Wolf (who was also a really great baller at a highschool level led his team to the state championship and then bailed so Scott could get some shine).  If Teen Wolf 🐺 had continued basketball 🏀 and not switched to boxing 🥊 for Teen Wolf 2 they say he would’ve been a better college player than Jordan was at North Carolina.  And who knows what would’ve happened in the NBA.


can't argue against MJ


but u already know Kobe is the GOAT in my book


the GOATs generally die young too
 

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crazy…I was too young to experience any of it at the time but I did catch some You Tube games

that I remember well…I think it was the season he dropped the 81 but I could be wrong…probably the greatest season I have watched any NBA player have


yup .. and scored 62 in 3 quarters a couple games prior (outscoring the entire mavs team).. he sat out the 4th quarter of that game and they asked him "why didn't u play the 4th and go for 80?!" .. his answer was "don't trip, i'll get it on the next one"

GOAT SHIT
 
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yup .. and scored 62 in 3 quarters a couple games prior (outscoring the entire mavs team).. he sat out the 4th quarter of that game and they asked him "why didn't u play the 4th and go for 80?!" .. his answer was "don't trip, i'll get it on the next one"

GOAT SHIT

that's a helluva statement! 

 

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yup .. and scored 62 in 3 quarters a couple games prior (outscoring the entire mavs team).. he sat out the 4th quarter of that game and they asked him "why didn't u play the 4th and go for 80?!" .. his answer was "don't trip, i'll get it on the next one"

GOAT SHIT

that's wild :deezamn: