Who is the top 5 all time rappers based on this criteria......

[mfaraj]

This is based on level of skills/bars, creativity, album sales/popularity, longevity


1.lil Wayne- Its wayne and doesnt need explaining  🐐
2.Emenim- lyrical genuis and the only rapper to sell a million first week more than once.
3.2Pac -Took hip hop to the next level
4.Kendrick-crazy catalog
5.Lupe Fiasco- Top 3 lyrcitist, he decided to dumb his music becasue he went over too many heads


Below are "5 honorable mentions"

6.Nas
7.kanye
8.Andre 3000
9.50 cent
10.Drake

In the streets they say youre likely to end up dead or in jail, being in the hip hop game doesnt make you exempt. One of the greatest to fall victim to this saying is Tory lanez

Easily the most versatile hip hop artist to ever exist. He has 3 different identities and is the only rapper to drop a full rap album from prison. I will challenge anyone to find me a more complete overall artist (versitile), hes the best rap artist to ever exist up there with Kanye

Rip Juice wrld, he was the future and would have been the new lil wayne the way kobe was the new jordan. At a young age he already worked with eminem and lil wayne having 4 tracks surpass 500M, 1 being 1.2B views in his early career. He also dropped a duo album with Future at only the age of 19! (wrld on drugs), He once had five songs, in the Billboard Hot 100 top 10 at the same time. The only other person to do that was the Beatles in 1964,  Wether is having the number 1 album while alive, to biggest posthumous debuts of the modern (after death), he continues to be heavily listened to and supported, and would have earned the permanent goat title knowing he would accomplish so much more had he lived longer. Especially considering all his achievements came at just the age of 21, four years younger than 2pac when he passed away

[Sccit]

good thread

ill start by saying mac dre and x-raided dropped full albums from behind bars well before tory


based on your criteria i got it at

1.2pac
2.eminem
3.biggie
4.nas
5.snoop


that's if u include sales/popularity

my personal top 5 would be

1.2pac
2.mac dre
3.tech n9ne
4.brotha lynch
5.biggie

[TraceOneInfinite]

good thread

ill start by saying mac dre and x-raided dropped full albums from behind bars well before tory


based on your criteria i got it at

1.2pac
2.eminem
3.biggie
4.nas
5.snoop


that's if u include sales/popularity

my personal top 5 would be

1.2pac
2.mac dre
3.tech n9ne
4.brotha lynch
5.biggie

Based on your criteria—mine and Sccit are identical 

My Personal top 5 replaces Biggie with Xzibit (and how can a West Coast head like Sccit have Biggie over Xzibit in a top 5)

1.  2pac
2.  Eminem
3.  Nas
4.  Snoop
5.  Xzibit

[HighEyeCue]

my list is almost the same as Sccit's just the order is changed

Pac
Eminem
Nas
Snoop
Biggie

my personal top 5 though as in favorites would be a lot different

[hitsaw]

Pac
Nas
Snoop
DMX
50

[Sccit]

Based on your criteria—mine and Sccit are identical 

My Personal top 5 replaces Biggie with Xzibit (and how can a West Coast head like Sccit have Biggie over Xzibit in a top 5)

1.  2pac
2.  Eminem
3.  Nas
4.  Snoop
5.  Xzibit

i love xzibit and its true he's always been one of my favorites .. but biggies flow and storytelling was just next level .. and the fact that he's the goat of an entire coast (tho u can argue nas), it gives him that edge from a legacy perspective.

[O.E.800]

I'm gonna skip the criteria list. I don't care about record sales dude. Skill is skill. Money can't buy that. There could be a whole other thread about what that means and whether people even know what is anymore lol. None of these are in any particular order except for 2pac.

Personal Top 5

2pac
Rakim
King T
Big Daddy Kane
Ice Cube

*Honorable Mentions: Black Thought, Big L, Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes, Xzibit, NaS, Crooked I, LL Cool J, O.C., Biggie, Redman, Method Man, Saukrates, Bumpy Knuckles, Jadakiss, The Lady of Rage, Pete Rock, Schoolly D, Slick Rick, KRS One, Ice-T, Krumbsnatcha, Big Pun, Teflon, J. Dilla



Bonus: Personal Top 5 Groups

NWA
Gang Starr
Westside Connection
M.O.P.
EPMD

*Honorable Mentions: The Roots, A Tribe Called Quest, Mobb Deep, Tha Dogg Pound, D.I.T.C., Tha Alkaholiks, Tha Eastsidaz, Cypress Hill, Public Enemy, Above The Law, Onyx, Group Home, Naughty By Nature



Bonus: Personal Top 4 Producers *Couldn't think of a fifth that could compete with these guys

Dr. Dre
DJ Quik
DJ Premier
Pete Rock

*Honorable Mentions: Soopafly, DJ Crazy Toones, No ID, J.Dilla

[Sccit]

I'm gonna skip the criteria list. I don't care about record sales dude. Skill is skill. Money can't buy that. There could be a whole other thread about what that means and whether people even know what is anymore lol. None of these are in any particular order except for 2pac.

Personal Top 5

2pac
Rakim
King T
Big Daddy Kane
Ice Cube

*Honorable Mentions: Black Thought, Big L, Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes, Xzibit, NaS, Crooked I, LL Cool J, O.C., Biggie, Redman, Method Man, Saukrates, Bumpy Knuckles, Jadakiss, The Lady of Rage, Pete Rock, Schoolly D, Slick Rick, KRS One, Ice-T, Krumbsnatcha, Big Pun, Teflon



Bonus: Personal Top 5 Groups

NWA
Gang Starr
Westside Connection
M.O.P.
EPMD

*Honorable Mentions: The Roots, A Tribe Called Quest, Mobb Deep, Tha Dogg Pound, D.I.T.C., Tha Alkaholiks, Tha Eastsidaz, Cypress Hill, Public Enemy, Above The Law, Onyx



Bonus: Personal Top 5 Producers

Dr. Dre
DJ Quik
DJ Premier
Pete Rock

*Honorable Mentions: Soopafly, DJ Crazy Toones, No ID

very respectable lists

[Duck Duck Doggy]

Snoop
2pac
Eminem
Kurupt
Rakim
Biggie

[O.E.800]

very respectable lists

Good lookin ✌️

Forgot to include J Dilla under Honorables for producers and rappers. Also forgot Group Home for group Honorables. I knew I was gonna forget people but I'll edit the list.

[O.E.800]

Just for kicks and in no particular order:

Personal Top 5 Most Unique Rappers

CPO Boss Hogg
Suga Free
Busta Rhymes
E-40
Sticky Fingaz

*Honorable Mentions: André 3000, Short Khop, AMG, Biz Markie, DMX, Lil Fame, Brotha Lynch Hung




Personal Top 5 Gangsta Rappers:

Eazy-E
Snoop Dogg
Big Wy
Tray Deee
W.C.

*Honorable Mentions: Goldie Loc. Dogg (from Tha Relativez), Squeak Ru, Jayo Felony, Mack 10, Nuttz, CJ Mac, Tha Chill, G-Luv, Young Maylay

[mfaraj]

Skill will always outweigh record sales but the sales on a large scale confirm that the artist is liked on a large scale

You dont have to like a rapper to have him in your top 5, this is almost no longer opinion based, you cant keep lil wayne out of that top 5, just as much as you can not keep 2pac out, At one point your track didnt get played if wayne wasnt featured on it, one of the biggest peaks in hip hop ever

Theres also a difference of rappers that are enjoyable to listen to and rappers who are talented. Easy to listen to makes up for lack of talent when the flow and sound is nice but there are plenty of great lyricsit yall will not list simply because you dont enjoy playing their music, but it doesnt mean they are not great

The best of the best can do both, make the average person want to listen while also appeleaing to the hip hip heads.  thats how you get on that list

[HighEyeCue]

Skill will always outweigh record sales but the sales on a large scale confirm that the artist is liked on a large scale

You dont have to like a rapper to have him in your top 5, this is almost no longer opinion based, you cant keep lil wayne out of that top 5, just as much as you can not keep 2pac out, At one point your track didnt get played if wayne wasnt featured on it, one of the biggest peaks in hip hop ever

Theres also a difference of rappers that are enjoyable to listen to and rappers who are talented. Easy to listen to makes up for lack of talent when the flow and sound is nice but there are plenty of great lyricsit yall will not list simply because you dont enjoy playing their music, but it doesnt mean they are not great

The best of the best can do both, make the average person want to listen while also appeleaing to the hip hip heads.  thats how you get on that list

I don't think Wayne is top 5 though, if you put him in there then you would definitely have to put Jayz above him

and I like Wayne better than Jay

[Jay_J]

Esoteric (unique rhyme and flow)
2pac (content, persona, delivery)
Eminem (wordplay, content, complex rhyme shemes)
Method Man (umique voice, delivery, cadance and flow)
Dr. Dre (voice, actimg, delivery, cadance)

[Sccit]

Skill will always outweigh record sales but the sales on a large scale confirm that the artist is liked on a large scale

You dont have to like a rapper to have him in your top 5, this is almost no longer opinion based, you cant keep lil wayne out of that top 5, just as much as you can not keep 2pac out, At one point your track didnt get played if wayne wasnt featured on it, one of the biggest peaks in hip hop ever

Theres also a difference of rappers that are enjoyable to listen to and rappers who are talented. Easy to listen to makes up for lack of talent when the flow and sound is nice but there are plenty of great lyricsit yall will not list simply because you dont enjoy playing their music, but it doesnt mean they are not great

The best of the best can do both, make the average person want to listen while also appeleaing to the hip hip heads.  thats how you get on that list

wayne had an excellent prime in terms of bein the face of hip hop commercially .. all while bein a skilled emcee

but you're overrating him like u do lebron

i can't knock u puttin him in the top 5 based on your criteria tho