Is Daz Dillinger a real producer ?

[HighEyeCue]

Just like Dr Dre and others

i guess you have a personal issue wit Daz ?

listen to this recent Daz song , the production is on point  . I would like to have a new good  Dre song

are you sure Daz produced this?

I can't find the credits anywhere

[Soopafly DPGC]

Hi everybody,

I'm new here.

I need the opinion of true fans who are familiar with Daz's career. I've been a huge fan of his music for over 20 years. He is a renowned producer and beatmaker.

These days, he is claiming his share of royalties from the Death Row era and rightly so. However, producer Barney Rumble, a former Death Row keyboardist, recently claimed on his Instagram page that Daz Dillinger doesn't know how to play the keyboard and is incapable of creating a melody.

I asked Soopafly for confirmation on Instagram, and he backed this up. Soopafly was always Daz's right-hand man in the studio. Like Barney Rumble, he maintains that Daz's production work was limited to drum programming. As a fan, I was really surprised and disappointed to hear this, especially since Daz was always credited as the producer in his album liner notes (and even as the keyboardist on the album *Retaliation, Revenge & Get Back*).

Yet, all of Daz's solo albums and his work with Tha Dogg Pound during the DPG Recordz era bear his unmistakable signature sound. Do you think Barney Rumble and Soopafly are telling the truth, or are they trying to downplay Daz's talent in the wake of his feud with Snoop ? After all, Snoop did threaten to destroy him professionally.

I asked Daz Dillinger the same question directly on an Instagram post, but he chose to disable comments, which took me by surprise. Barney Rumble claims to have produced "21 Jump Street" and "Big Pimpin'", tracks credited to Daz, as well as "Ain't No Fun," which Daz claims to have produced alongside Warren G. Yet, in many interviews, Daz asserts that he produced the *Dogg Food* album by playing the Juno 106 keyboard. I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this crucial point :

- if Daz can't actually play the keyboard, then he lied, but if Barney Rumble and Soopafly are saying this just to back Snoop and downplay Daz's talent, that's not right either.
 
After all, Daz criticized Dr. Dre in the past for failing to credit him, yet according to Barney Rumble, Daz did the exact same thing to him. When you look closer, Daz always produced in a duo team, whether with Soopafly, Blaqthoven, Mike Dean, or Ivan Johnson. But if he only handled the drums on the MPC without playing bass or keys, I find it dishonest for him to claim full production credit. That would imply Daz only did the drums on tracks like "Ambitionz Az A Ridah" ​​or "Ain't Mad At Cha," while Soopafly created everything else.

I'm not trying to stir up controversy, i'm just a fan trying to understand the situation, and i'd love to hear some outside opinions.

Thanks !

Can you post the screenshot showing that you asked Soopafly himself just yesterday "Is Daz incapable of making a melody" and Soopafly immediately replied to you and said "that is correct"?

You're new here and claim to be a Daz fan for over 20 years and love his music, yet you're genuinely unsure is Daz creates his own beats or not....hmmmm  There are videos posted online of Daz playing the keyboard and showing interviewers how he makes beats.  Seems like a quick google or youtube search would easily have your question answered if you are truly coming with this concern in good faith. 

[b.laden]

are you sure Daz produced this?


I can't find the credits anywhere

You re right . I m not sure its him  but  it sound like
a Daz beat. At least he coproduced the song.

[ThaRealSMK]

Can you post the screenshot showing that you asked Soopafly himself just yesterday "Is Daz incapable of making a melody" and Soopafly immediately replied to you and said "that is correct"?

You're new here and claim to be a Daz fan for over 20 years and love his music, yet you're genuinely unsure is Daz creates his own beats or not....hmmmm  There are videos posted online of Daz playing the keyboard and showing interviewers how he makes beats.  Seems like a quick google or youtube search would easily have your question answered if you are truly coming with this concern in good faith.

I understand your questions, and I'll answer them point by point.

I'm new here, so I'm not familiar with all the features yet. Please explain how to upload the photo, and I'll gladly post Soopafly's reply from Instagram.

I've been listening to Daz Dillinger and the Dogg Pound since around 2002. I own the entire discography, and the album booklets clearly state "produced by Daz Dillinger"—sometimes with Mike Dean or Soopafly as co-producers, or Ivan Johnson from 2005 onwards. I had assumed Daz was the main beatmaker, but according to Barney Rumble and Soopafly, Daz doesn't know how to play the keyboard.

There isn't a single video on YouTube or the internet showing Daz playing the keyboard or synth. The only existing video is the one posted in this thread, where he's shown mastering the MPC. According to Rumble and Soopafly, Daz's skills are limited to drum programming. If that's true, it's disappointing, because I thought—like DJ Quik or Battlecat—Daz was the one creating the melodies for his songs.

I'm asking this in good faith; I'm not a troll, and I'm not trying to badmouth Daz—quite the opposite. But I want to have a discussion here with people who might know more about this subject than I do.

[haliaeetus albicilla]

2pac on Skandalous - Yo Daz stop fuckin around with the piano and drop this shit.

Thats enough proof.

He might not be a top notch key player but he is a great overall producer (drums keys (effective notes) hooks flows); who needs others to polish his sound: Dre, Quik, etc.

His 96/97 beats are unmatched in my opinion Nobody got those uptempo adrenaline smooth tracks: 2 of amerikaz most wanted, our daily bread, like that (with WC), way too major, etc. Thats his signature.

[HighEyeCue]

You re right . I m not sure its him  but  it sound like
a Daz beat. At least he coproduced the song.

I do find it interesting that the credits are nowhere to be found when one of the things about back in the Death Row days was that Daz was not credited for his work

he is also listed as executive producer on the back cover which again is interesting because Suge used to do the same exact thing while not putting the credits in the Doggystyle booklet for instance

of course Suge was the executive producer and not an actual producer which Daz himself is

[b.laden]

This dude RealSMK is a troll.
 

[Sccit]

I understand your questions, and I'll answer them point by point.

I'm new here, so I'm not familiar with all the features yet. Please explain how to upload the photo, and I'll gladly post Soopafly's reply from Instagram.

I've been listening to Daz Dillinger and the Dogg Pound since around 2002. I own the entire discography, and the album booklets clearly state "produced by Daz Dillinger"—sometimes with Mike Dean or Soopafly as co-producers, or Ivan Johnson from 2005 onwards. I had assumed Daz was the main beatmaker, but according to Barney Rumble and Soopafly, Daz doesn't know how to play the keyboard.

There isn't a single video on YouTube or the internet showing Daz playing the keyboard or synth. The only existing video is the one posted in this thread, where he's shown mastering the MPC. According to Rumble and Soopafly, Daz's skills are limited to drum programming. If that's true, it's disappointing, because I thought—like DJ Quik or Battlecat—Daz was the one creating the melodies for his songs.

I'm asking this in good faith; I'm not a troll, and I'm not trying to badmouth Daz—quite the opposite. But I want to have a discussion here with people who might know more about this subject than I do.

to post a pic just upload it to:

https://imgbb.com/


then once it's uploaded, post the link here

[ThaRealSMK]

This dude RealSMK is a troll.

Come on man, we just talk here as fan of westcoast music. Ain't got time to be a troll.

[ThaRealSMK]

2pac on Skandalous - Yo Daz stop fuckin around with the piano and drop this shit.

Thats enough proof.

He might not be a top notch key player but he is a great overall producer (drums keys (effective notes) hooks flows); who needs others to polish his sound: Dre, Quik, etc.

His 96/97 beats are unmatched in my opinion Nobody got those uptempo adrenaline smooth tracks: 2 of amerikaz most wanted, our daily bread, like that (with WC), way too major, etc. Thats his signature.

Thanks for your contribution. Daz's beat from the Death Row Era are classics.

But all the work he did as independant is very interesting too that's why i want to know the details of his skills.

[ThaRealSMK]

This question is a simple one... Daz and a bunch of other producers at Death Row benefited from 2-3 major things...

#1 - Dr Dre's personal hand picked musicians (Tony Green, Barney, Ricky Rouse, Butch Smalls Etc)
#2 - Great inhouse studio engineers (Dave Aron, Tommy D , Carlos Warlick Etc)
#3 - Dr Dre's sounds.

When it comes to Barney he had a job that is a gift and a curse. The gift is your working for the hottest label, the curse your doing a lot of work but getting no credit as a hired musician. This happens all the time with hired musicians, after a while they feel cheated out of credit. But this would be my question to Barney and all hired musicians, where are the hits? Outside of Death Row Barney produced no hits, that's not a shot at Barney just a question. Daz & Barney made a great combination instead of taking shots at each other they should get back together and make more hits.

Great answer thanks for your opinion.

[ThaRealSMK]

barney rumble and soopafly are right

daz has concepts and ideas that his musicians put together .... daz is what casuals think dre is

while dre is a mastermind when it comes to the technical aspect of production (layering, eqing, structure, etc), daz has very limited knowledge of the technicalities and his strongest ability is coming up with loops on a drum machine......

dre, quik, soopafly, mike dean, ivan johnson, etc did the heavy lifting on most his productions

it's very well documented that dre ghost produced "dogg food" and gave daz the credit because they were trying to build daz up as the next big death row producer

Thank you for your contribution. I'm a disapointed about Dogg Foid because i thought it was Daz's sound.

What exactly the diference between beatmaker & producer ?

Because for me, i thought Daz, Dre etc are the guys whi actualy did the song'

[O.E.800]

Hi everybody,

I'm new here.

I need the opinion of true fans who are familiar with Daz's career. I've been a huge fan of his music for over 20 years. He is a renowned producer and beatmaker.

These days, he is claiming his share of royalties from the Death Row era and rightly so. However, producer Barney Rumble, a former Death Row keyboardist, recently claimed on his Instagram page that Daz Dillinger doesn't know how to play the keyboard and is incapable of creating a melody.

I asked Soopafly for confirmation on Instagram, and he backed this up. Soopafly was always Daz's right-hand man in the studio. Like Barney Rumble, he maintains that Daz's production work was limited to drum programming. As a fan, I was really surprised and disappointed to hear this, especially since Daz was always credited as the producer in his album liner notes (and even as the keyboardist on the album *Retaliation, Revenge & Get Back*).

Yet, all of Daz's solo albums and his work with Tha Dogg Pound during the DPG Recordz era bear his unmistakable signature sound. Do you think Barney Rumble and Soopafly are telling the truth, or are they trying to downplay Daz's talent in the wake of his feud with Snoop ? After all, Snoop did threaten to destroy him professionally.

I asked Daz Dillinger the same question directly on an Instagram post, but he chose to disable comments, which took me by surprise. Barney Rumble claims to have produced "21 Jump Street" and "Big Pimpin'", tracks credited to Daz, as well as "Ain't No Fun," which Daz claims to have produced alongside Warren G. Yet, in many interviews, Daz asserts that he produced the *Dogg Food* album by playing the Juno 106 keyboard. I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this crucial point :

- if Daz can't actually play the keyboard, then he lied, but if Barney Rumble and Soopafly are saying this just to back Snoop and downplay Daz's talent, that's not right either.
 
After all, Daz criticized Dr. Dre in the past for failing to credit him, yet according to Barney Rumble, Daz did the exact same thing to him. When you look closer, Daz always produced in a duo team, whether with Soopafly, Blaqthoven, Mike Dean, or Ivan Johnson. But if he only handled the drums on the MPC without playing bass or keys, I find it dishonest for him to claim full production credit. That would imply Daz only did the drums on tracks like "Ambitionz Az A Ridah" ​​or "Ain't Mad At Cha," while Soopafly created everything else.

I'm not trying to stir up controversy, i'm just a fan trying to understand the situation, and i'd love to hear some outside opinions.

Thanks !

In a word, No. Daz is not a real producer lol.

[ThaRealSMK]

are you sure Daz produced this?

I can't find the credits anywhere

When Daz released RRGB 2, He had posted the album's release date on Instagram, noting that the album was entirely produced by him and Ivan Johnson.

[O.E.800]

it's very well documented that dre ghost produced "dogg food" and gave daz the credit because they were trying to build daz up as the next big death row producer

I never bothered to check this at all because it was so fuckin obvious Dre did it. I remember looking at the back of the CD after I listened to it for the first time, seeing the producer  and thinking, "No way dude." LOL.

Daz takes credit for producing songs and entire bodies of work that sound that sound nothing like what he puts out when you know he's by himself in the studio. Just from an auditory standpoint - without even laying eyes on a producer - it's clearly not the same person lol. Pretty much an open secret at this point lol.