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Daz debut, Kurupt debut, or Soopafly?  Who had the best debut solo?

Daz RRGB easily, Sccit's in violation
8 (66.7%)
Kurupt Kuruption
2 (16.7%)
Soopafly Dat Whoopty Woop
2 (16.7%)

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Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2026, 03:19:26 AM »
I'm going to have to agree with SCITT for the first time ever; RRGB isn't a GREAT album by any measure, with only two or three tracks reaching classic sounding DR level. 
Having said that, the other two albums are kinda on the same level...not great in any shape or form.  I think I enjoy the Soopafly album the most, but I'd say the Kurupt album has the most songs of the three I still bump (but only like 4 or 5
So I guess I'd rank Daz album number one off the strength I can play it front to back, but I don't think it's fucking with  his best work

I'm confused because you said you agree wit Sccit but that you still put RRGB first — which means you agree with me and disagree wit Sccit
 

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Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2026, 03:22:08 AM »

damn this is the FIRST time teecee agrees with me

that means he doesn't believe sex with women is enjoyable

it means he doesn't think rakim is a better rapper than shaggy 2 dope

it means he thinks lindsay clancey was an inspirational woman

but he finally found something we can agree on- daz's debut not being classic

that alone might make me reconsider

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Sex wit women is enjoyable, but do I have to look? lol
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Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2026, 06:00:31 AM »
RRGB > Streetz

You were right to point out that it's a perfect record from the Resurgence era but the mid-90's Death Row era was superior to the resurgence era which puts RRGB over Streetz because that was Daz prized stash he had in the canon and he's said in multiple interviews that's why he stayed at Death Row.  He was sitting on classic material from the golden age and just waiting for a proper release which he finally got in Spring 98

Absolutely RRGB is better than streez. RRGB has better features overall, better production, and kurupt doesn't rap very well on some songs on streetz. Streetz was the beginning of Kurupt just basically freestyling a lot of his verses and rhyming words even though it doesn't make much sense. The title track is my favorite song, and kurupt flows very well on there, but if you really listen to the lyrics, they are pretty stupid.
 

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Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2026, 07:08:13 AM »
Sex wit women is enjoyable, but do I have to look? lol


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Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2026, 07:09:07 AM »
Absolutely RRGB is better than streez. RRGB has better features overall, better production, and kurupt doesn't rap very well on some songs on streetz. Streetz was the beginning of Kurupt just basically freestyling a lot of his verses and rhyming words even though it doesn't make much sense. The title track is my favorite song, and kurupt flows very well on there, but if you really listen to the lyrics, they are pretty stupid.


streetz was a step up lyrically from kuruption
 

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Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2026, 07:24:19 PM »
Absolutely RRGB is better than streez. RRGB has better features overall, better production, and kurupt doesn't rap very well on some songs on streetz. Streetz was the beginning of Kurupt just basically freestyling a lot of his verses and rhyming words even though it doesn't make much sense. The title track is my favorite song, and kurupt flows very well on there, but if you really listen to the lyrics, they are pretty stupid.

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Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2026, 03:46:46 AM »
Absolutely RRGB is better than streez. RRGB has better features overall, better production, and kurupt doesn't rap very well on some songs on streetz. Streetz was the beginning of Kurupt just basically freestyling a lot of his verses and rhyming words even though it doesn't make much sense. The title track is my favorite song, and kurupt flows very well on there, but if you really listen to the lyrics, they are pretty stupid.

this shows you are just going with the narrative about Kurupt and not really a fan of his

if you were you would realize that this started on Kuruption! not Streetz

Streetz lyrics were a step up just like Sccit stated...were they Dogg Food and Death Row era Kurupt? no but certainly better than Kuruption!

and if you listened to Kuruption! then you would know that he just got lazy but could bring it when he wanted to like Fresh, or Ask Yourself a Question

 
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Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2026, 06:22:44 AM »
this shows you are just going with the narrative about Kurupt and not really a fan of his

if you were you would realize that this started on Kuruption! not Streetz

Streetz lyrics were a step up just like Sccit stated...were they Dogg Food and Death Row era Kurupt? no but certainly better than Kuruption!

and if you listened to Kuruption! then you would know that he just got lazy but could bring it when he wanted to like Fresh, or Ask Yourself a Question

LOL, I'm not at all going with the narrative. This is my opinion. Kurupt's verses on Puffin on blunts, doggy dogg world, and stranded on death row are some of my favorite verses of all time. I've been a fan of Kurupt since I heard him on the chronic as a teenager in the 90s. How long have you been a fan of him?

I personally don't like kuruption at all aside from about 5 tracks. I do like Streetz all the way through and I've listened to streetz probably 10x as much as I listened to Kuruption. So it's possible I just didn't notice Kurupt started his freestyling on Kuruption.

Regardless, that doesn't take away anything I said. Even if kurupt's lyrics on streetz are a step up from Kuruption, that doesnt' mean anything. They were still nonsense lyrics.
 

HighEyeCue

Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2026, 06:55:20 AM »
LOL, I'm not at all going with the narrative. This is my opinion. Kurupt's verses on Puffin on blunts, doggy dogg world, and stranded on death row are some of my favorite verses of all time. I've been a fan of Kurupt since I heard him on the chronic as a teenager in the 90s. How long have you been a fan of him?

I personally don't like kuruption at all aside from about 5 tracks. I do like Streetz all the way through and I've listened to streetz probably 10x as much as I listened to Kuruption. So it's possible I just didn't notice Kurupt started his freestyling on Kuruption.

Regardless, that doesn't take away anything I said. Even if kurupt's lyrics on streetz are a step up from Kuruption, that doesnt' mean anything. They were still nonsense lyrics.

you are right I misspoke when I used the word narrative you are entitled to your opinion...but even with Kuruption! sure he freestyled half the album no denying that but that doesn't take away the fact that 2 GOAT west coast classic tracks are on it although mostly due to the production...and when he wanted to he could still spit there were at least 2 or 3 on each disc where he was flowing like not necessarily old times but good enough...and as far as nonsense when has Kurupt ever been more than a great technical rapper who also happens to have a great delivery and voice in his prime?

and if you want something introspective by him just listen to track 10 on the east disc "Thats Gangsta" produced by Warren G


 

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Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2026, 06:58:18 AM »
you are right I misspoke when I used the word narrative you are entitled to your opinion...but even with Kuruption! sure he freestyled half the album no denying that but that doesn't take away the fact that 2 GOAT west coast classic tracks are on it although mostly due to the production...and when he wanted to he could still spit there were at least 2 or 3 on each disc where he was flowing like not necessarily old times but good enough...and as far as nonsense when has Kurupt ever been more than a great technical rapper who also happens to have a great delivery and voice in his prime?

and if you want something introspective by him just listen to track 10 on the east disc "Thats Gangsta" produced by Warren G


streetz was emcee skills on display for the most part

kuruption was simplistic freestyle type raps for the most part

not sure where he came up with streetz being the beginning of the end when it was heralded as a return to form

and not sure why infinite co-signed that, but it seems like he must not have truly given that album the time of day
 

HighEyeCue

Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2026, 07:04:04 AM »

streetz was emcee skills on display for the most part

kuruption was simplistic freestyle type raps for the most part

not sure where he came up with streetz being the beginning of the end when it was heralded as a return to form

and not sure why infinite co-signed that, but it seems like he must not have truly given that album the time of day

yeah I'm not exactly sure that Infinite gave Streetz the play that he did Kuruption! because he lost faith in Kurupt pretty much after that

I do know that he was very much anticipating Kuruption! like me and he was initially dissapointed like me

I just have been fascinated with it for almost 30 years so even though my GOAT is Dogg Food I have probably listened to the west disc of Kuruption more
 

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Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2026, 10:34:59 AM »
yeah I'm not exactly sure that Infinite gave Streetz the play that he did Kuruption! because he lost faith in Kurupt pretty much after that

I do know that he was very much anticipating Kuruption! like me and he was initially dissapointed like me

I just have been fascinated with it for almost 30 years so even though my GOAT is Dogg Food I have probably listened to the west disc of Kuruption more

The reason for the mix-up is because I haven't listened to Streetz in a lot of years.  I still bump Kuruption, and never stopped bumpin' Kuruption because of my fascination with that "Lost" period of West Coast Rap—the "In Between" period from Doggfather's release date to the release date of "Bitch Please".

Kurupt's album is a vintage album from that period so Im still fascinated by it.  .it's sort of like that Lost period brings me joy because it's like this mysterious era where still all things were possible.  It's like visiting some forgotten time or place.


Streetz on the other hand I used to bump every day it stayed in my rotation in my car for over a year from 99 till 2001-I played the shit out of that album and loved it—and knew it front to back lyrically.

But just like MMLP, Top Dogg, Dre's 2nd solo, Restless, Last Meal—I just can't listen to them anymore because it puts me into a really bad mental state I used to be in in those years. 

...so it's possible for me to misspeak on Streetz and forget that Kurupt really was bringing his A game on that album.
 

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Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2026, 01:24:00 PM »
The reason for the mix-up is because I haven't listened to Streetz in a lot of years.  I still bump Kuruption, and never stopped bumpin' Kuruption because of my fascination with that "Lost" period of West Coast Rap—the "In Between" period from Doggfather's release date to the release date of "Bitch Please".

Kurupt's album is a vintage album from that period so Im still fascinated by it.  .it's sort of like that Lost period brings me joy because it's like this mysterious era where still all things were possible.  It's like visiting some forgotten time or place.


Streetz on the other hand I used to bump every day it stayed in my rotation in my car for over a year from 99 till 2001-I played the shit out of that album and loved it—and knew it front to back lyrically.

But just like MMLP, Top Dogg, Dre's 2nd solo, Restless, Last Meal—I just can't listen to them anymore because it puts me into a really bad mental state I used to be in in those years. 

...so it's possible for me to misspeak on Streetz and forget that Kurupt really was bringing his A game on that album.


makes sense

you've always had an emotional bias towards music
 

HighEyeCue

Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2026, 04:16:51 PM »
The reason for the mix-up is because I haven't listened to Streetz in a lot of years.  I still bump Kuruption, and never stopped bumpin' Kuruption because of my fascination with that "Lost" period of West Coast Rap—the "In Between" period from Doggfather's release date to the release date of "Bitch Please".

Kurupt's album is a vintage album from that period so Im still fascinated by it.  .it's sort of like that Lost period brings me joy because it's like this mysterious era where still all things were possible.  It's like visiting some forgotten time or place.


Streetz on the other hand I used to bump every day it stayed in my rotation in my car for over a year from 99 till 2001-I played the shit out of that album and loved it—and knew it front to back lyrically.

But just like MMLP, Top Dogg, Dre's 2nd solo, Restless, Last Meal—I just can't listen to them anymore because it puts me into a really bad mental state I used to be in in those years. 

...so it's possible for me to misspeak on Streetz and forget that Kurupt really was bringing his A game on that album.

you and I share that fascination with Kuruption! so much so its became my most played album ever...I get where you are coming from though especially '98...just that year alone you had Daz, Kurupt, Snoop, Bad Azz, Nate Dogg all release solos...even Michel'le released her Death Row album



 

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Re: RRGB, Kuruption, or DAT Whoopty Woop
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2026, 06:32:59 PM »
you and I share that fascination with Kuruption! so much so its became my most played album ever...I get where you are coming from though especially '98...just that year alone you had Daz, Kurupt, Snoop, Bad Azz, Nate Dogg all release solos...even Michel'le released her Death Row album

Yeah 98' was a bonanza all across media genre's — even Titanic and "Iris" came out that year.  If you remember the movies were all blockbusters that year, and quality

It was the internet boom economically — before all the negative cultural effects disrupted life, culture, and music and film industry.

98 was like the last real year.  Even for me.  98' was my last pre-internet year — my first email address was Royce_59@yahoo.com because Eminem had dropped early 99