To anyone that hates on Snoop and the Neptunes... A story...

[budsmokeronly]

for those of u that think beautiful is a better song than Nuthin but a gthang, well ok than, its your opinion.  If u think snoop sounds better over a neptunes beat than a dre or warren beat, well than u must be some happy mutha fuckas.  I bet your also looking forward to the neptunes, eminem, 50 cent to be on the 213 album, cause we all know warren, nate, and snoop couldn't make a classic w/o them.  As a matter of fact u changed my mind.  I hope snoop does radio/mtv hits for the rest of his life.  I want puffy to exec produce his next album, and then next up I would like jermaine dupri to exec produce.  Fuck snoop ever rapping over a good beat by fred, warren, dre, battlecat, daz, meech, etc.  I wanna hear him over from tha church to the palace type beats.  Oh Weee, I can't wait for a Nelly/Snoop collabo, or a fuckin Justin Timbalake snoop collabo.  What the fuck could be better than that.  Go Neptunes!!!!  Maybe someday warren g could learn to produce like that, after all who wanna hear some shit like This DJ when you could have a hit like From tha Chuuch to tha Palace?  Good work neptunes, can't wait to hear you on the Spice 1/Fabolous collabo album.

[Trauma-san]

these people here who want everything to be "funk" and "gangsta" probably dont talk to chicks...no many chicks want to listen to brotha lynch hung...they wanna hear whats on the radio...i aint gonna front...ill play whatever a girl likes while im with her...if it gets her in the mood then its a great song in my book....

That's the most intelligent thing you've ever said, for real.  Music's always been about women, people who don't understand that are dreaming.  

[S.G.V.]

these people here who want everything to be "funk" and "gangsta" probably dont talk to chicks...no many chicks want to listen to brotha lynch hung...they wanna hear whats on the radio...i aint gonna front...ill play whatever a girl likes while im with her...if it gets her in the mood then its a great song in my book....

That's the most intelligent thing you've ever said, for real.  Music's always been about women, people who don't understand that are dreaming.  

i say intelligent things all the time...u just gotta pull ur head out ur ass a few more times to see it...

[budsmokeronly]

That's the most intelligent thing you've ever said, for real.  Music's always been about women, people who don't understand that are dreaming.  

Keep bangin your Elton John

[LyRiCaL_G]

nice post playa, still wont shut the fuck up outta haters cuz haters will always remain, bitch ass niggaz will always remain, but yeah i dont gotta problem with neptunes n snoop workin together, they makin hits and neptunes are makin sick beats for alot of cats so i cant hate........

plus most these kats in wcc dont even know the meanin of a sellout, must have heard someone say it one time in skool or sum shit and jus cought onto their own thing.........it makes me laugh when i hear ppl so n so sold out, nigga shut the fuk up until u dont who what sellin out is.......

peace

[budsmokeronly]

nice post playa, still wont shut the fuck up outta haters cuz haters will always remain, bitch ass niggaz will always remain, but yeah i dont gotta problem with neptunes n snoop workin together, they makin hits and neptunes are makin sick beats for alot of cats so i cant hate........

plus most these kats in wcc dont even know the meanin of a sellout, must have heard someone say it one time in skool or sum shit and jus cought onto their own thing.........it makes me laugh when i hear ppl so n so sold out, nigga shut the fuk up until u dont who what sellin out is.......

peace

C'mon man give me a break.  I respect your posts and your opinion, but this I just ridiculous.  I luv snoops music, always have.  Doggystyle is my favorite album of all time, snoop is one of my favorite artists.  I have banged the shit out of that album more than any other album.  I even like Paid the cost quite a bit.  I like it better than the last meal, and da game.  I even like the song beautiful.  I think snoop flows awesome on from da chuuch, but the beat is very wack.  But to say I am hating, and don't know what I am talking about?  C'mon man, I am telling it how it is.  The only bias that I have is I don't listen to much rap outside of the westcoast scene, but I listen to everyone in cali.  But I do know good fucking music when I hear it.  And to say that you would rather hear snoop on a neptunes beat, rather than a dre, warren, fred, daz, etc. beat is just bullshit.  Everyone on this fuckin forum knows that snoop sounds best over a Dr. Dre beat.  

Tell me this:

What would you prefer: 213 album produced entirely by Warren G, or half produced by warren G and half by eastcoast producers?

Would Snoop be such a hit today if he didn't have such hot dre beats to come out on?

What is your favorite snoop album?

What songs do u think Beautiful and From da Chuuch are better than out of these snoop songs:

entire doggystyle album
nuthin but a g thang
deep cover
murder was the case rmx
21 jump street
the wash
bitch please
bitch please II
Hennessy and Buddah
Lay Low
Still A G Thang
G'D Up
Who Got dat Fire
My Heat Goes Boom


Do the neptunes make better beats than Dre?  than Warren? Fred wreck? Battle cat? Daz? Soopafly? DJ Quik? Meech Wells? Big Hutch?  

Snoop came into the rap game as a gangsta rapper on death row.  He has now worked with: Eminem, Lil Bow Wow, Neptunes, Ludacris, Jay Z, Puff Daddy, Some new asian chick, Timbaland, Jermaine Dupri, 50 Cent (only after he sold millions), Lil' Kim, Mariah Carey, and more.  He has put out how many songs with dre in the last 3 years?  How many with warren, whom he grew up with?  How many with Daz, whom is his cousin?, Master P whom saved his ass from Death Row?  Oh, and if u still can't figure that snoop has sold out then go rent Ghost Dog.

Gotta give it up to Tom and Jome who know exactly what this forum is all about.

[LyRiCaL_G]

yo playa.........i wasnt directin my post at you..........dunno why u wrote a whole post to me, but i didnt read it all but put it this way, i didnt once say u was hatin, im jus sayin in general to many haters on this board and groupies with double standards and another thing......alot of kats dont know what a sell out is on this board...........thats what im sayin, i aint said shit about you directly so chizzil playa.....

by the way.........snoop aint sold out...............whos he begin with..........213,dre and them.............whos he with today, 213, still hollerin at dre n co..............why even do another 213 album if u sold out......i mean jus keep makin snoop dogg lps cuz they the easy way to sell..........warren aint sellin shit, nate aint sellin shit so why do 213? cuz snoop got luv for his homeboys.......nigga if death row wernt paying me, id leave to........his still with the ppl who he started with, still with his roots, jus expandin, i cant hate on anyone whos doin that......and if u think snoop sold out..........y'all need to go live life real and see what a sell out is

peace

[budsmokeronly]

^^^ my post wasn't just directed at you.  Its directed to all the people who like snoop working with the neptunes, who think its good that puffy will exec produce his next album, who want eminem and 50 cent and neptunes on 213.  I wanna see someone like that honestly answer those questions I posted.  And of course snoop will do a 213 album with his homies.  I ain't sayin he totally sold the fuck out, and won't work at all with his homies, but he has sold out.

Snoop came into the rap game as a gangsta rapper on death row.  He has now worked with: Eminem, Lil Bow Wow, Neptunes, Ludacris, Jay Z, Puff Daddy, Some new asian chick, Timbaland, Jermaine Dupri, 50 Cent (only after he sold millions), Lil' Kim, Mariah Carey, and more.  He has put out how many songs with dre in the last 3 years?  How many with warren, whom he grew up with?  How many with Daz, whom is his cousin?, Master P whom saved his ass from Death Row?  Oh, and if u still can't figure that snoop has sold out then go rent Ghost Dog.

Perfect example of how snoop has sold out.  

[Lord Funk]

[when ur in lyin it bed...wit a girl...and u throw on a cd...i dont think ud wanna throw on westside connection...

I dunno man... sometimes you gotta tell 'em to "bow down"  

[S.G.V.]

[when ur in lyin it bed...wit a girl...and u throw on a cd...i dont think ud wanna throw on westside connection...

I dunno man... sometimes you gotta tell 'em to "bow down"  

lmao!!! true...ur a foo for that one...



grundy...aint nobody sayin snoop with the neptunes is better than snoop wit dre...theyre just sayin that snoop wit the tunes is not as bad as everyone says...

[M Dogg™]

I never said that Snoop is better with 'Tunes, I don't know too much about the 'Tunes to make a judgement. I hear their music on the radio. But if they work with Snoop, and go to Brazil and blow up in a bigger way then Death Row, or anyone else, not hate, just love. Nuthin' But A "G" Thang is still the greatest track, Snoop and Dre still are the best team, and 213 is finally coming out. Snoop is trying to blow up E-White, Eastsidaz have two platnum albums, Doggystyle, The Chronic, Doggfather, Dogg Pound, Deep Cover, Bad Azz's Personal Business, Top Dogg, The Last Meal, all I can say is, WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM SNOOP!!! Let him do his thang homies.

[JLscorpio]

Many people seem to think that Snoop working with everyone and doing things differently than what he did on Doggystyle is selling out. What the don't realize is that if Snoop really was making music just to make money, which is what I consider selling out,  he would do an album just like Doggystyle, have Dre produce the entire album and the album would sell more than all of his after doggystyle combined. But no he won't do that he won't take a step back in his career. He refuses to live in the past, unlike many people on this board, including myself at times. I would be perfectly happy to see Dre produce and entire Snoop album but that just ain't gonna happen, so i accept it. I loved snoops last album and the main difference between PTCTBTB and those since Doggystyle is that you hear Snoop. The Last Meal was more of a Featuring Snoop album with a few exceptions. Snoop keeps moving forward and i like that

[Rag_J]

Man, AcGrundy aka budsmokeronly, I respect alot of what you say, and I somewhat share your view, but Snoop actually has worked with producers like FredWreck, Battelcat and those lately. And the reason why he hasn't worked with Dre in 3 years? Check The Source Interview with Snoop. Dre is one of the busiest producers out there, and as a matter of fact, he hasn't have had time for snoop lately, that's a fact. So it's not up to Snoop wether him or Dre should work together, it's up to Dre. unless of course Snoop's throw up 500 000 $ for one beat. And that's the reason why I've lost respect for Dre lately, he's prioritizing artists like Eve and 50 Cent in front of Snoop. And we all know that Dre wouldn't have the same status as a solo artist, without Snoop. Perhaps as a producer, but no FUCKING WAY as a solo-artist. Come one, who was the rapper everyone wanted to hear from after The Chronic? Who has to take alot of the responsibility for making that album the classic it was?


This is no dikcrydin, as you say, it's facts.

Peace.

[Maestro Minded]

Many people seem to think that Snoop working with everyone and doing things differently than what he did on Doggystyle is selling out. What the don't realize is that if Snoop really was making music just to make money, which is what I consider selling out,  he would do an album just like Doggystyle, have Dre produce the entire album and the album would sell more than all of his after doggystyle combined. But no he won't do that he won't take a step back in his career. He refuses to live in the past, unlike many people on this board, including myself at times. I would be perfectly happy to see Dre produce and entire Snoop album but that just ain't gonna happen, so i accept it. I loved snoops last album and the main difference between PTCTBTB and those since Doggystyle is that you hear Snoop. The Last Meal was more of a Featuring Snoop album with a few exceptions. Snoop keeps moving forward and i like that

thats some truth righ there..

if snoop wanted to be a sell-out, his next album would have 2 tracks with eminem, 2 tracks with 50 cent, the whole album produced by dre, the first single should be a track with eminem, 50 AND dre.. .. then you can call him a sellout, cuz he's only after the money...

lets check paid the cost... no eminem, no 50 cent (but he  wasnt known then), no dre, a really WACK beat as first single.. couple of avreage beats in the album... how the fuck can that he be a sell-out...AcGrundy.. i respect your opinion.. but right now youre talkin bullshit

[KING VerbalAssaulta]

 what a touching story ...some of these posts show what nut less pussies some apparently are "music is always been about women" man i cant believe i read that...if you have to lower yourself in anyway like your music selection just to get women....maybe you need to check some of your other areas of your game...i listen to whatever the fuck i want to and i have never had a problem dating good classy women...if they really like you they'll except you who you are....no matter what you listen to

beautiful is an ok song...but as this just proves its for bitches...and so is snoop for working with the neptunes...in case some havent notices while riding his dick so much...snoop is really loosing his credibility