The Formula.com Rakim Interview

[caTASHtrophe]

http://www.thaformula.com/rakim_-_guess_who's_back_-_day_1.htm

This is why i don't want Bone at aftermath, 2 years at aftermath and all Ra made was 18 tracks and only 3 were produced by Dr retard.

 

[Dedicato]

ThaFormula Reach Out To Hip Hop's Most Respected MC Once Again. They Clear Up Tha Rumors On What Really Went Down With Tha DJ Primo Tracks That Were Submitted, tha Hennessey Ads, His Reason For Leaving Aftermath, and Much More In Another World Exclusive For Dat Azz, So Get Off Da Bullshit.

ThaFormula.com - Aight Ra, basically I wanted to pick up where we left off the last time.  When we left off you were a couple of months away from dropping your album on Aftermath.  What happened from there?

Rakim - Me and Dre man we decided to cut it short man.  We had creative differences. Basically I wanted to do what I felt the world wanted me to do.  My man Doc (Dr. Dre) wanted me to bring the guns back out, simple as that and I respect that 'cause that's the way he gets down but I don't think the world wanted that from Ra at this time.  So I decided to come back to the East Coast and get it poppin' back off man.

So go to ThaFormula.com to read part 1 of the interview.
http://www.thaformula.com/Thaformula.com%20-%20Home%20Page.htm

[Don Seer]

just finishin it up...fucked up situation.... dre like a kid in a sweet shop spoilt for choice.. too many ppl to work with..

gotta respect em both in the end.. rakim for walking outta what he felt wasnt right... u can tell Ra respects dre in this piece... and respect to dre for letting him go without drama <-- **remember** the BS other labels pull over that shit.. dre has always lets ppl go their way with their shit.. we'll probably still get to hear dre+ra tracks on ra's album, so we can judge then if holding out for more dre shit would have been a wiser move.

[Dedicato]

ThaFormula.com - How many tracks did you end up recording at Aftermath in the 2 years that you were there?

Rakim - I did like 18 joints. A lot of the time was you know waiting for beats and producers, sitting around for a couple of weeks without tracks.

ThaFormula.com - How many of those 18 did you work on with Dre?

Rakim - About 3.

THIS CANT BE TRUE, CAUSE RA SAID LAST YEAR THEY RECORDED LOTS OF MORE TRACKS ...

"Me and Dre, we about to do full-steam on it, [and] hopefully we should have a single out towards the end of the summer and the album will follow shortly after that," Rakim said two weeks ago at the BET Awards. "We finally got everything on track like we wanted. I have logged 16 songs with Dre and I hope to finish seven more. The first single will be selected after all are in the can..."

[PLANT]

Pretty sad IMO that in 2 years with Aftermath he only did 3 tracks with Dr Dre...


Props for this tho, it was a dope read.

[Diabolical]

nice interview

[js83]

i wonder if the game's album will ever come out after reading this..why does dre act like a lil bitch sometimes.

[Code Blue]

I really hope we get some Rakim/Dre tracs on his album whenever it drops. Rakim was crazy tight over that Watcher Part II beat. That shit got me feenin'.

[Bramsterdam (see ya)]

good read, props for posting

[CharlieBrown]

Thaformula ain't showing the interview for me, could someone please copy and paste all of it?

Cheers

[Tha Crip]

i wonder who the other producers Dre got for Ra to work with ............and i ve been wondering if one of them was eminem cuz of those 2 pics posted at aftermathmusic.com......we got to see em and ra in behind the boards....dat would be dope to hear ra over an em beat.........CHUUUUCH!!!!!

[Jome]

Thaformula ain't showing the interview for me, could someone please copy and paste all of it?

Cheers

Rakim Allah:
Guess Who's Back - Day 1
   
Interview Conducted Friday January 16th, 2004!!!

ThaFormula.com - Aight Ra, basically I wanted to pick up where we left off the last time. When we left off you were a couple of months away from dropping your album on Aftermath. What happened from there?

Rakim - Me and Dre man we decided to cut it short man. We had creative differences. Basically I wanted to do what I felt the world wanted me to do. My man Doc (Dr. Dre) wanted me to bring the guns back out, simple as that and I respect that 'cause that's the way he gets down but I don't think the world wanted that from Ra at this time. So I decided to come back to the East Coast and get it poppin' back off man.

ThaFormula.com - Through your whole time there before this happened did you ever get the sense that you were gonna probably end up leaving? I mean did you really feel that this album was gonna drop on Aftermath? Because a grip of people felt that what happened to guys like King Tee, Last Emp, Eve, Hittman, and others might happen with your project?

Rakim - Well yeah, after a while I felt that way I wanted to do things, he definitely wanted to do some things different and my thing was, I don't like to quit on nothing. Once you're in the ballpark, lets straight ball. So you know we was trying to make it work and my problem was trying to please both sides of the fence and you can't do that. So at the end of the day, Dre respected me for it but you know I had to stick to my guns and you know keep that integrity up as far as what I do and stay focused to what I do cause I think that's what people respect me for till this day. You know just stickin' to my guns and never changin' and always going my own direction. I never did what everybody else is doing at the time. I always try to go left if they going right or talk black if they talkin' blue.

ThaFormula.com - Another thing that gets talked about a lot are the Primo tracks that were rejected. A lot of people were very angry when they heard this. Was it really that serious of an issue?

Rakim - I don't know if that was between Premier and Aftermath, but yeah it was like a few other cats from the East Coast as well that submitted some things that I felt you know that I should be on.

ThaFormula.com - How were those Primo beats that were submitted man?

Rakim - Primo sent me a few heaters, and you know it's like I know the way Premier works. Premier he's kind of like me. I make beats too, and when I'm at the crib doing pre-production, I make the frame of the beat and when I'm writing a rhyme sometimes I might write you know, 12 bars and come back later and change the whole 12 bars into something different but I put the frame up and that's the way Premier do. Premier knows, "yo I'ma send Ra this, if he like it then he gonna put his rhymes to it and then Primo will take it to the next level. But I guess Dre and them wanted Primo to send them complete tracks done from top to bottom. I think that was the only difference man 'cause I know Dre respects Premier and vice versa. But I think it was just Aftermath trying to keep up with the project and keep everything on top of the table and Premier you know how we work in the studio, but Aftermath…I guess the staff wanted what they wanted when they wanted it man. But it ain't no love lost.

ThaFormula.com - Now did you read the article in The Source about producers leavin' Aftermath?

Rakim - Yeah I checked it out. Chuck and Mel-Man are my peoples.

ThaFormula.com - Was it true what they said about you getting thrown second hand producers or something like that and that you and Dre never really got together in the studio?

Rakim - Well part of that true. As far as me and Dre working together, we definitely worked together on a few tracks but what it was, was that when another producer sent a beat, what I do is I take the track go to the studio and write to it myself. Once I finish with it then I go holla at Dre, but anything that Dre did then I would be sittin' right there, with him. But the thing is for the album we should have been side by side more, instead of looking for a lot of the other producers, me and Dre should have been in the studio just nailing that shit out.

ThaFormula.com - Most people hoped it was gonna be you and Dre in the studio recording a whole classic album together when you signed to Aftermath?

Rakim - That's what I wanted bro. But things happen and I don't know if Dre had the time to really get in the whole project 'cause you know doing a Rakim album ain't easy man and you know what Dre is doing is not hard for him, but I guess making a transition from East Coast to West Coast is a different vibe.

ThaFormula.com - Was it ever the label getting in the way of things or trying to rush the project?

Rakim - Nah, it wasn't really the label. It was just me and Dre trying to find that same page where he wanted me to do this and I wanted to do this so it wasn't the label.

ThaFormula.com - So basically you and Dre were never really able to find the chemistry that you would have liked or chemistry similar to what you and Primo have?

Rakim - Word Up. It's like I know the way Premier works. Premier is a East Coast producer and he definitely knows what Rakim is, and the thing is I got crazy respect for Premier, where if Premier will do something you know he might send me a track and I might play it the first time and I might not understand it the first time. So I'll put it to the side come back about an hour or two hours later 'cause it happened before. Put the shit back in and me and my brother was like "yo Premo crazy man!" So you know I like producers like that. It's like my rhymes, sometimes you might not get that shit the first time. Play that shit the next time you might not get it but after a while you start pickin' up like oh okay I see what he did.

ThaFormula.com - It's funny I always felt that way about the "Don't Sweat the Technique" album, at first I was disappointed but as I listened to it a few years later I realized that was one of your best if not the best. Many people really slept on how good of an LP that was...

Rakim - And I think they did because again I always go left. I wasn't looking for the familiar track sound. I was looking for classic shit. I did some things on there that I knew would never get played on the radio and I didn't care, but I knew that my dogs and my true listeners is gonna throw it in the walkman, in the truck, and zone out on it. That's what I like doing man and maybe that's why I'm still here 'cause people know I go the extra yard to try and get them to listen.

ThaFormula.com - How many tracks did you end up recording at Aftermath in the 2 years that you were there?

Rakim - I did like 18 joints. A lot of the time was you know waiting for beats and producers, sitting around for a couple of weeks without tracks.

ThaFormula.com - How many of those 18 did you work on with Dre?

Rakim - About 3.

ThaFormula.com - That's crazy. Now Ra in between those 2 years, how do you get by seeing that you have no album out?

Rakim - Well luckily I got a good accountant man named Bert Biddell and I been with him since '86 man and along the way getting my paper doing my tours man, I saved wisely bro. I got a nice crib, got the family stretched out you know? Got the kids in a nice school. But you know just spending money wisely man. In the earlier days you know I used to go crazy with the jewelry. I used to go crazy with the car systems and you know the Gucci interior. I still get my toys but I'm a little more laid back with it, I still get my jewels but I'm a little more laid back with it. Like right now I'm livin' for my family man, you know my kids. I'd rather see them blinged up then look in the mirror and see myself. You know I did that already, but I ain't gonna front, I don't mind a nice piece of jewelry man but you know I love seeing my kids you know that way I wanted to be when I was they age you know. Fresh kicks, fresh clothes, you know a little jewelry on. All the games they can think of so it all goes to them man but I been blessed with a good accountant. He takes care of me and shows me how to spend my money.

ThaFormula.com - Now we got to talk about what a lot of people have been a little angry about recently and that's the Hennessey ads that have been popping up in the streets. People wanna know why is Rakim promoting alcohol? Even though they forget you did this before along with Cube, EPMD, and others with the St. Ides commercials back in the day…

Rakim - What I say about that is what they got to understand is I study Islam but I grew up in the 'hood. I grew up a young kid in the 'hood doing the same thing that they doing. I'm not 100 percent righteous man. I got gun charges, so you know I did it all when I was young. This is Hip-Hop that I'm representing and in Hip-Hop people like to have a good time. It's all about a party and since the St. Ides thing I was doing, my thing was people is gonna get high but do it responsibly. As far as me doing the ads, like I said man, this is Hip-Hop. The most talked about liquor in hip hop is what?

ThaFormula.com - Hennessey...

Rakim - If it ain't the Cristal, the most talked about liquor is Hennessey.

ThaFormula.com - No doubt, but I had to hit you up on that 'cause some people are just surprised and upset about it...

Rakim - That's good though man 'cause they are conscious of it, but like I said I'm not 100% righteous and even Jesus Christ poured what?

ThaFormula.com - Wine...

Rakim - So the wine is not negative man. It's what you do when you drink the wine that makes some people negative. But the alcohol itself is from the earth, it's grapes man. Jesus Christ poured wine to be merry so I don't think the alcohol is bad, I'm not gonna say it's good and I don't want nobody to take it that way, but understand that's not what's bad. Like you can give a good person a car and give the bad person a car and what's the bad person gonna do with the car? He gonna do crime with that car, he's gonna do robberies with that car, he gonna do whatever the fuck he can with it. You give a good person that same car, he gonna go to work and chill with the car and take care of it but again man I'm not trying to say alcohol is good. To me anything I do if it makes sense then I deal with it. Hennessey is you know one of the biggest companies in the Industry as far as sellin' liquor. What I'm thinkin' is, no doubt Hennessey we building up a nice rapport with each other. I'm looking for them to sponsor tours for me, I'm looking for them to do things for me so I can touch these people you know what I mean? I'm always laid back and underground but I choose to do certain things to touch certain people. Like I even did a South Pole ad back in the day because South Pole is represented in the 'hood. No rappers were rocking no South Pole. But it makes sense 'cause that's what it is in the 'hood. So to see Ra in that, it brings me closer to them and that's where I like to stay.

ThaFormula.com - What about the St. Ides commercials? Did you get any problems with those back then?

Rakim - Well back then it was brought up but I think the way I did it and what I said in the commercials people wasn't really mad at it. But people was like "yo Ra what's up with the alcohol commercial?" and I told them, "look man, instead of people coming down and you know getting fucked up, go ahead and drink a beer relax and enjoy yourself." That's the way I was looking at it and people couldn't get upset at that 'cause at the end of the day my man, people gonna sip they sip, they gonna smoke they smoke and they gonna do what they do. The thing is if they doing something wrong nobody wants the next person to know about it, but I never hid nothing that I did. You know I make my bed and I sleep in it. I don't do nothing I can't tell my kids about and you know that's what it is man, and you know as far as the alcohol that's what Hip-Hop is man. If that's what's in the club, then every time they see a Hennessey bottle, every time they sippin' some Henney, they gonna think of Rakim Allah and if that changes their thoughts you know what I mean? It might be something good out of it. If that changes they thoughts to just be "yeah I'm chillin' man, sippin' my little Hen-dog, I'ma never blend, I'ma sit back and chill." It might do that to people so when I make my decisions man, I think of the positives and the negatives, but at the same time I let Allah make that decision for me. I'm not gonna tell you that Allah told me to do that, but maybe this is why he told me to do that. People see Rakim as a laid back conscious cat, boom, boom, boom. Go ahead put me on a Hennessey ad and maybe it will change their thoughts like "yeah this is a cool out drink, this is a grown ass man drink right here," so maybe it'll be that.

ThaFormula.com -  On Wednesday January 28th, 2004, We Big Up Ra's Birthday By Bringing You Day 2 Of Our World Exclusive Feature With Tha Legendary Rakim Allah.  We Continue Speaking on Tha Hennessey Ads, His Moves After Leaving Aftermath, And His Highly Anticipated Upcoming Album. So Stay Tuned In As We Continue To Walk Through Tha Darkness...

[Ras Kass' Toothpick]

This was truely sad reading this.  I can't believe they fucked up this project this bad.  I would have never thought Dr. Dre would have let this happen.  

 

[Suga Foot]

Props to both Dre and Rakim for being mature about this whole situation.  It could have been a lot worse.

[CharlieBrown]

Cheers for that Jome, much appreciated.