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i wouldnt worry about all this God is coming soon for the saltonce the 10 nations surround Israel
oppression of palestinians belongs to the last things in the world I'd support. it will never end tho as long as the USA is in power. Israel / USA can do as many atrocities as they want, because noone can match them.I mean seriously. What can possibly happen worse than USA goin to Iraq randomly without any WMD stationed there + well-known rumours about some conspiracy 9/11 stuff. Noone does anything though. Bush is even probably reelected LMAO.
Quote from: Slayer on July 22, 2004, 03:31:46 PMi wouldnt worry about all this God is coming soon for the saltonce the 10 nations surround Israeloh please...
i dont understand how 'the wall' can be right.. the situation there is so fucked though... neither side deserves shit
to those in favour of the wall. think of this scenario it would be like america going into mexico bludozering down a load of towns, famrs etc. to and building a wall on that land, it just would never happen, no one would agree to that. if a country wants to build an illegal wall to protect themselves i guess thats ok on the condition it was built on their own land not in anouther country all together. another to point to think about when the boarders of israel is still under negotiation in the road map building a wall makes these negotiations irrelivant israel is unilaterally decideding their hugely extended boarders.
Quote from: Overseer on July 21, 2004, 02:01:47 AMi dont understand how 'the wall' can be right.. the situation there is so fucked though... neither side deserves shitBasically, yup. The Wall symbolizes Israel's attempt to give up on the situation. If It was my decision, I don't know that it would be any different. They can't keep on killing each other forever. Oh wait a minute, I forgot I'm Christian. They will go on killing each other, until Armageddon. As a matter of fact, the bible mentions all of this and more, and if the bible holds true, it's just gonna keep getting worse and worse and worse. Jerusalem won't see peace until Christ's millineum is ushered in.
Basically, yup. The Wall symbolizes Israel's attempt to give up on the situation. If It was my decision, I don't know that it would be any different. They can't keep on killing each other forever. Oh wait a minute, I forgot I'm Christian. They will go on killing each other, until Armageddon. As a matter of fact, the bible mentions all of this and more, and if the bible holds true, it's just gonna keep getting worse and worse and worse. Jerusalem won't see peace until Christ's millineum is ushered in.
Englewoodsince when does "having a favourable impression of his sermouns and rhetoric" amount to supporting Al Qaeda and its actions?
Again, u totally completely ignore what conditions have led to an entire regions population hating the Americans so much that an Osama speech appeals to them.
Quote from: Don Rizzle on July 21, 2004, 05:39:20 AMto those in favour of the wall. think of this scenario it would be like america going into mexico bludozering down a load of towns, famrs etc. to and building a wall on that land, it just would never happen, no one would agree to that. if a country wants to build an illegal wall to protect themselves i guess thats ok on the condition it was built on their own land not in anouther country all together. another to point to think about when the boarders of israel is still under negotiation in the road map building a wall makes these negotiations irrelivant israel is unilaterally decideding their hugely extended boarders.that's a grossly improper analogy. First, Mexico and the United States have a civil relationship, even if we don't agree on a lot of things. No American (I.E., me) wishes any harm on Mexico, and we don't want a wall between the two countries, because they're civilized human beings whom we get along with. The latino population in America is growing by leaps and bounds, and some people are pissed off about it, but we're not talking about killing people here. We would never think of putting a bomb on a bus full of Mexican children, and they would never think of doing that to us, either. So comparing the U.S. and Mexico with Palestine and Israel is rediculous. They have a totally different situation over there, so no, it would not be like us bulldozing into Mexico and building a wall on their land. It would be nothing like that.
Quote from: Don Rizzle on May 10, 2006, 03:16:12 AMiraq would just get annexed by iranThat would be a great solution. If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
iraq would just get annexed by iran
Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on July 22, 2004, 08:24:57 PMEnglewoodsince when does "having a favourable impression of his sermouns and rhetoric" amount to supporting Al Qaeda and its actions?"I don't support Hitler, I just really like what he has to say!" How dumb does that sound?Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on July 22, 2004, 08:24:57 PMAgain, u totally completely ignore what conditions have led to an entire regions population hating the Americans so much that an Osama speech appeals to them.These debate tactics don't work. You can only push the blame on other for so long before it becomes transparent. Bali, Jakarta, Luxor, Morroco, Turkey, Spain, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Bagdad, Tunisia, Thailand, southern Philippines. I guess all these places have been part of the worldwide oppression right? The blame for Islamic terrorism only can be directed at one thing. The people that commit the acts. Scapegoating doesn't work. Can you deny the fact that millions of dollars in oil money from Saudi Arabia went to funding groups like Hamas? Wouldn't that money be better spent on urban improvement? Something besides fueling the hate of these people?It's funny to me that these people have no personal responsibility for their own actions and their society's obvious failures. "It's not our own decaying society's fault, It's AMERICA!!!! BLAME AMERICA!!!" These people preach hate, death, and terror, and 50% of a population will support it. But hey, it's just their culture right? Osama Bin Laden, Abu Hamza, Omar Bakri and countless other hatemongers have said repeatedly that they want to Install Sharia everywhere. Is this because of the "Aggression" or is it the islamists that are persuing the aggression? Believe what you want to, but it's obvious that Islam needs reform across the world. And the suffering of the poor? There has been study after study saying that most terrorists aren't from some poor section of town and have nothing to look forward to. Did you know that only "13 percent of Palestinian suicide bombers live in poverty?" That is fucking minimal. Did you know that 57% of Palestinian suicide bombers have an education beyond high school? http://www.discover.com/issues/oct-03/departments/featdialogue/Did you ever think to look beyond the "Great Satan" for the REAL ROOT of the problem? Islamic based governments that withold freedoms from individuals. The study above DID show that poverty wasn't a factor, but lack of civil liberties was. Who's to blame for that one?Your argument is "Pathetic"
Quote from: Woodrow on July 22, 2004, 11:41:22 PMQuote from: King Tech Quadafi on July 22, 2004, 08:24:57 PMEnglewoodsince when does "having a favourable impression of his sermouns and rhetoric" amount to supporting Al Qaeda and its actions?"I don't support Hitler, I just really like what he has to say!" How dumb does that sound?Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on July 22, 2004, 08:24:57 PMAgain, u totally completely ignore what conditions have led to an entire regions population hating the Americans so much that an Osama speech appeals to them.These debate tactics don't work. You can only push the blame on other for so long before it becomes transparent. Bali, Jakarta, Luxor, Morroco, Turkey, Spain, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Bagdad, Tunisia, Thailand, southern Philippines. I guess all these places have been part of the worldwide oppression right? The blame for Islamic terrorism only can be directed at one thing. The people that commit the acts. Scapegoating doesn't work. Can you deny the fact that millions of dollars in oil money from Saudi Arabia went to funding groups like Hamas? Wouldn't that money be better spent on urban improvement? Something besides fueling the hate of these people?It's funny to me that these people have no personal responsibility for their own actions and their society's obvious failures. "It's not our own decaying society's fault, It's AMERICA!!!! BLAME AMERICA!!!" These people preach hate, death, and terror, and 50% of a population will support it. But hey, it's just their culture right? Osama Bin Laden, Abu Hamza, Omar Bakri and countless other hatemongers have said repeatedly that they want to Install Sharia everywhere. Is this because of the "Aggression" or is it the islamists that are persuing the aggression? Believe what you want to, but it's obvious that Islam needs reform across the world. And the suffering of the poor? There has been study after study saying that most terrorists aren't from some poor section of town and have nothing to look forward to. Did you know that only "13 percent of Palestinian suicide bombers live in poverty?" That is fucking minimal. Did you know that 57% of Palestinian suicide bombers have an education beyond high school? http://www.discover.com/issues/oct-03/departments/featdialogue/Did you ever think to look beyond the "Great Satan" for the REAL ROOT of the problem? Islamic based governments that withold freedoms from individuals. The study above DID show that poverty wasn't a factor, but lack of civil liberties was. Who's to blame for that one?Your argument is "Pathetic"and oil isn't the reason we have a military presence there?i'm not suprised hamas has so much support in palestine look how the israelis have treated them and hamas fights back by your reconing they should just bend over and take it. true arafrat isn't the best leader but the real problem is israel.
Can you deny the fact that millions of dollars in oil money from Saudi Arabia went to funding groups like Hamas? Wouldn't that money be better spent on urban improvement? Something besides fueling the hate of these people?