Dont Believe the Hype/Family comes first

[mellowman]

"Don't believe the hype" is a relatively small phrase, but it means something much bigger.  I came on here to post a q and a topic a few times over the last few months, but each time i did I read in amazement a lot of comments that I couldn't believe. I would be too mad to post so I would just log off and get back to making music. this is a forum to talk about music and the artists you supposedly love so much. unfortunately, way too many ignorant motherfuckers use this forum to judge people and situations they know nothing about.  a lot of you harshly judge people you don't know.  a lot of you make these judgements based on lies and rumours. if you don't know the truth don't speak on it or make a personal attack on someone.  Some of you need to burn your hip hop magazines, take a baseball bat to your computer and do something positive.  DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE.  I have respect for many members of this board, past and present.  You know who you are.  Some of you other people need to grow the fuck up. a lot of people on this board and running websites and forums, gossip and lie and make judgements based on that gossip and lies. some of y'all are worse than little old ladies in a small town.  you believe everything you read or hear and run with it.  DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE.   A lot of the people starting these rumors and lies are mad, jealous and are trying to ruin a good thing and break families apart.  Unfortunately, they are sometimes succeeding. and its not just fans. hip hop is in a world of hurt cause so many of its artists are so fucking stupid, big ego punk motherfuckers who have no idea what respect means, much less how a real man acts and talks and treats others.  Its hard enough with politicians and media people like Bill o'reilly constantly trying to criticize and protest rap.  But to see the artists themselves destroying rap makes me mad.  If i wasn't working for Dre I would have got out of this shit a few years ago.  The fact that Dre, the Aftermath staff and most of his artists are trying to do positive things and do things the right way is the only reason I'm still in this hip hop game (along with a chance to change things for the good on OH MY GOD and Detox).  Believe me if Dre wasn't doing things the right way i wouldn't be on his team.  I just read earlier a topic tearing dre apart saying he was a "big headed nerd".  I ask you, have you ever sat down and talked to Dre? Do you really know anything about him?  If the answer is no, shut the fuck up.  Dr. Dre the character you hear on a record is not the man named Andre Young.  Dr. Dre has the proven track record to brag about what he has done.  No one in hip hop has ever done the things he's done, had the success he has had and helped develop as many stars as he has.  So of course the Dre you hear on wax is gonna brag a little.  At least he ain't disrespecting anyone or constantly shoving his 150 million dollar net worth in the listeners face.  Plus Dre's only dropping a few guest spots here and there.  He ain't gonna talk about much too deep.  If you knew Andre Young you would have the utmost respect for him as a man, father, husband, artist and friend.  Don't assume that he is an arrogant big headed motherfucker who thinks he is better than anyone else just because its on a song. The Andre Young I know is a VERY humble human being.   Yeah he's a tough boss, yeah he pisses me off once in a while, yeah he frustrates me with his perfectionism and all the mind blowing unreleased tracks he locks away, and yeah he is a long way from perfect.  but he has always treated me with respect and is now a loyal friend.  You don't see what i see or know what i know.  And unlike 99% of these coward punks out there, if Dre has a problem with me or anyone else he addresses those problems by confronting me face to face, looking me in eye and we talk things out like real men do. Dre doesn't let many people in.  he keeps a lot of things inside.  He pretends like personal attacks or criticism don't bother him, but i know it saddens him a lot.  Respect is a big thing with Dre.  he gets a lack of respect from punks like suge or ja rule, and ungrateful and unrealistic music buyers, but that doesn't really hurt.  Those people motivate him to get in the studio and make the best music possible and out succeed them.  Those people push him into a corner and force him to come out fighting with musical bombs. The situations that hurt are when family members turn their back on him or another family member.  Yeah I'm talking about Snoop.  Is there beef? No I don't call it that.  Dre is deeply sadnedded that snoop did what he did, thats all.  FAMILY COMES FIRST. Thats the code of a real man.  The current problems with Dre and Snoop may run a lot deeper than I know, but I don't think their differences are too great that they can't work things out.  
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[Peter-5150]

Damn what a rant. I have to agree with you though. There are a lot of bullshit posters here. Every thread you click on someone will talk shit about an artist. Dre/Snoop fell off, Crooked I/Sisqo fag comments, JaRule/Murder Inc disses. I know what to expect before going into a thread. I don't really try to reply to that shit myself because this is the fucking internet and net beef is dumb. People don't like to give credit or people jock they favorite artist too much. A lot of people judge without knowing. They are quick to speak down on somebody when in real life they be beggin for autographs if they meet em. Dont trip Mellow there will always be haters. Fuck em.

[LAZY]

r u mel man? and if u r how can u prove it?


and i do agree with wut u say there is alot of hatin on this board but thats there opinions every1s got there own opinion and i respect that

[TOOTHBRUSH]

fuck dre he's gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


just playin mellow i feel what your sayin to the fullest, and why is dre dissipionted in snoop? isn't snoop dissipionted in dre for not standing up against suge, but dissin jd? and is there any truth to the "rumor" that dre didn't show for a recording session with snoop a few months back?

[mellowman]

for some reason after years of silence Snoop decided to finally come out recently and  really go after suge.  I don't have a problem with Snoop doing that.  I don't necessarily agree with him but Snoop is his own man and can do what he wants.  Anyone who knows me knows how much I hate Suge and what he's done to his artists, hip hop and innocent people. But Suge is desperate and Snoop is giving him the attention he craves.  Snoop dissing suge didn't cause any problems with dre.  it was what snoop did after that is where the problem comes.  Snoop has decided that since he has just now decided to publically dis Suge, anyone who decides not to is scared or not "the man" Snoop is.  Snoop attacked Xzibit by name, basically challenged Xzibit's manhood and
almost calling him a coward for not standing up to suge.  ANd snoop didn't mention dre by name but it was pretty obvious a lot of snoops comments were directed at dre.  snoop didn't stand up for dre in his stupid little beef with Jermaine.  he publically questioned dre and did not stand in his corner.  I know dre was disappointed cause snoop many times went public with his views instead of confronting dre and xzibit face to face.  Snoop thinks he is a "man" standing up to Suge Knight and anyone who chooses not to is not a real man.  Fuck that. Being a man means putting family first.  Although I didn't see any benefit in Dre beefing with dupri, it was easy to know that that beef would stay on wax and would be harmless.  It's not potentally a life or death situation like it
can be with Suge.  What good is it to dis suge? Nothing positive or even entertaining can happen. Just because suge has the government and fbi on his ass about BIg and pac, and is one misstep from going back to jail, doesn't make snoop safe.  Fuckin with Suge means you're putting yourself
and your family in harms way.  Snoop needs to push his stupid pride and ego out of the way and think about his family.  I know a lot of you sided with snoop and therefore reallly hated on and disrespected Xzibit and Dre.  Maybe one day when you have a family of your own you'll understand why Dre and Xzibit don't attack suge on wax or through the media.  Snoop needs to realize what Dre, X and even myself realize. FAMILY COMES FIRST. Xzibit is a good man and
a great father. he is doing everything in his power to keep himself and his son safe.  xzibit puts his son first in his life.  He wants to be there for his son.  he wants his son to have everything he never had. To do that he has to stay alive.  X won't allow his son to be in danger. If any of you disagree
your headed for a long hard life.  So don't question x's manhood.  he's gone through more hard times and pain in his life than most of you will in 10 lifetimes.  Dre don't talk about Suge in private let alone public.  I've only asked him one time why he doesn't really dis Suge on record or in the media.  He basically told me that he doesn't want to give Suge more life by giving him any more undeserved attention.  Musically and business wise Suge is not a threat.  Suge is desperate.  Death
Row is getting dangerously close to its execution date.  the unrealeased Pac tracks are almost gone. without those death row can't sell any records.  Dre's silence has to piss Suge off so much.
I can just imaging Suge tearing his house up pissed Dre ignores him.  The fact that Dre is fucking him up so bad in the music business has to make him even madder and more jealous. Why else can't suge not stop dissing dre?  all the money suge stole from dre, the original death row inmates,
pac and many others is definelty starting to dwindle. The feds and the public are realizing what suge is and what he has done.  everyone knows that dre and the inmates were the reason for death rows success.  The fact is Suge Knight isn't a story anymore.  he isn't anything but a myth, a ghetto ghost story.  I can only imagine how much satisfaction dre has got to have knowing he has continued on to be a huge success and suge is struggling mightily.  Suge is so desperate hes sucking ja rule and irv gottis nuts trying to make some money.  But Dre and x know that a desperate and increasingly angry Suge is is dangerous Suge.  Dre told me that there is only one way Suge knight will ever exist to him again -that is if he ever confronts Dre and the shit goes down.  If it does Dre said he will look suge in the eye and match him word for word, fist for fist or bullet for bullet.  Dre will not let Suge hurt his wife or kids.  Suge would have to be willing to kill Dre for that to happen. and suge would have to be willing to die as well, cause "If I die he's goin with me. therefore he will never hurt my family - NEVER." Those words stuck with me. Chances of Dre and Suge having a deadly confrontation is highly doubtful, but realistically it is definelty possible. You may not believe me but trust me  - it unfortunately is.  
So whats my point? Talk is for punks.  Talking behind someones back is for cowards.  Its the man who looks you in your eye when problems arise that is the real man .  The man who speaks with his actions is the real man.  The man who puts family first is the real man. My family is the most important thing in the world to me.  I Love my family more than myself.  I'm willing to die for them.  That includes my wife and kids and my friends like Dre.  Do I ever worry about Suge or another Dre enemy coming after me or my family?  Not really.  I just know that if someone does i'll confront it then,  But I highly highly doubt anyone will worry too much about some white boy musician who plays some instruments on dre's tracks.  
As far as Snoop goes i hope that tommorrow he calls dre or x and they get together and talk things out.  it saddens me to see the family broken apart.  But Snoop's gotta make the first move. Snoop's one of the coolest dudes on the planet and i hate that he isn't part of the family at the moment.
 I apologize for this post but i had to get some points across.  i'll post my q and a soon and get back to the music.  Ill address our plans for cube, I'll address the state of Dre's production, Ill talk about the Rakim Source article and what its like to work with the God.  I'll discuss the Truth Hurts lawsuit, eminem, Man vs. Machine, 50 cent and a few other things. til then remember, DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE and FAMILY COMES FIRST.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Good post man...I completely agree with u...Even though I have some opinions, it doesn't neccisarily make them facts (even if I do strongly belive in them)...Like when I said "I belive Dre produced Multiply", that was just a strong opinion I had...I took all the facts, put them together, and came with my own opinion about how i thought Dre was doing work and not getting full credit...WHatever though homie...It's all good...I'm a big Dre supporter, so it's coo...PeAce

[Peter-5150]

There are opinions but just look at the murder inc topic. The Dre thread Mellow mentioned. People like to talk shit. They expect perfection or something from every Dre song. I've also remember a Crooked I topic were the homie from Rime magazine allowed us to post questions that he might ask. That was cool chance we got but I opened the thread and there was a bunch of bullshit comments in there. People here hate for no fucking reason.

[HairWuzEre]

At least he ain't disrespecting anyone or constantly shoving his 150 million dollar net worth in the listeners face.

Damn, that's a lot of money!

...Dope post, mellowman.

[E. J. Rizo]

Thanks for postin i have always loved your post.......hey thats exactly how i feel i have always said that......i am a huge dre supporter and some people just get me mad when they dont give him his props...i dont care if you like him or not just atleast give him his props for what he has done in the game.....Peace!

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Yo Mike...That second post u made, I TOTALLY agree with it...Thats what I've been saying all this time...Why the fuck should Suge get what he wants? What Suge wants is attention from Multi-Platinum selling rappers, and when Snoop responds, Suge wins...Like I've been saying, Dre and X are the smart ones...SNoop is being dumb...PeACe

[Doggystylin]

ay mellow can you answer this question for me please

what does dre think of Bone thugs, has he ever mentioned them around you, cause i know a lot of people who wanna see a collabo between them.

[E. J. Rizo]

Yo Mike...That second post u made, I TOTALLY agree with it...Thats what I've been saying all this time...Why the fuck should Suge get what he wants? What Suge wants is attention from Multi-Platinum selling rappers, and when Snoop responds, Suge wins...Like I've been saying, Dre and X are the smart ones...SNoop is being dumb...PeACe

i have always said the same and you where always there too....i know that there is a few peeps that i really admire and you are one of them when it comes to Dre topics...i have always said dre is the smarter guy

[mellowman]

Just wanted to add that no one is perfect.  Dre does some things that I don't agree with. dre makes mistakes.  I'm not here to say Dre is perfect.  I strongly disagreed with Dre dissing Jermaine.  It was stupid.  Dre don't have to prove anything.  He doesn't need to battle on wax.  His catologue of music, track record and awards are enough to show people who the greatest hip hop producer is.  The last few years he has let his music talk for him. That's why responding to Jermaine was useless and didn't make sense. His music is the ultimate rebuttle for all the haters and doubters.  Thats why Oh My God and Detox or so important.  Thats' why they are being kept so secretive and taking so long.  These albums will be the perfect way to say fuck you to all the haters, critics and doubters.  and right now Dre's legacy and respect for what he done are being questioned at the moment. he's not gonna fail, believe me.  

I also wanted to add that my comments on Snoop are not hateful.  i love and respect Snoop to death.  I was just disappointed he decided to air his problems with family in public and in a negative and disrespectful way.  You expect those things from enemies like Suge, but not family.  thats what hurt Dre the most.  family aren't suppose to do things that way.  their suppose to be there for each other no matter what and if there is a problem it should be address privately and face to face.  i want Dre and Snoop and X to talk things out, cut the bullshit and get back to making music together.  Thats what hurts me the most.  I hate that something as beautiful as Dre and Snoop making music together is in danger of not happening anymore. fuck suge. fuck jermaine.  fuck ja rule. fuck everybody else.  this is all about family.  fortunately, its not too late to patch things up and get shit back to where it needs to be.  
So no Dre ain't perfect.  but dre is a man with honor, integrity, loyalty and always puts family first.  Dre is a man who embodies what making music should be about.  music is Dre's life.  its all he knows. and he doesn't want to let you down.  and we will never let you down. I will stand by my words forever. so you don't have to like him or his music, just don't disrespect him.  Thats all I ask.

[Myrealname]

So....dre will be on snoop's new album or not ?

[Doggystylin]

mellowman.....i agree with ya man, nice posts, i appreciate it, but yo homie, can you please answer my question above?