213 officially flopped!!!!

[Itchy Balls]

I was suprised it even sold that much the first week. For a westcost record they did pretty good cuz who else on the westcoast sold that lately on there first week I think only westside connection this year and thats it. Also if you ever notice how tvt's first single dont ever make it that big but the second one or even the third one is a hit. Give 213 time and they might be able to sale and possibly even go platium

Thats true.  Look at Ying Yang Twinz last album, first single "Naggin" did very little, and then the second and third singles "Salt Shaker" and "Whats Happinin" blew the fuck up.  Then Lil Jon, first single "I Dont Give A Fuck" did kinda well, then "Get Low" was song of the year.

Get Low was the 4th single. 

[AlerG]

Hmmm.  Check your statistics, I just checked RIAA.com, and Michaels album was certified Platinum @ the beginning of december, then Double Plat, January 25th, 2002.  It was released October 30th, 2001, less than 3 months earlier, making my rough number of 2 months correct.  So....   

that's where YOU'RE wrong, and I'd appreciate an apology not only for your mistake, but for your audacity of accussing me of making a mistake. 

get your calculator out:

weekly sales for michael jacksons invinsible before it fell off the charts:

1. 381,611
2. 192,952
3. 178,583
4. 174,476
5. 112,765
6. 106,767
7. 121,902
8. 118,945
9. 51,504
10. 46,428
11. 35,085
12. 32,801
13. 39,244
14. 30,536
15. 28,567
16. less than 32,264 (he fell off the chart)
17. 27,960 (this was the last week he showed on the charts

that's 4 months there and he isn't double platinum, riaa sometimes certifies based on what the company tells them, so more than likely what you read was a statistic based on what he shipped at the time, peace.

[[sepehr]]

c'mon its a good album considering how much shit sucks now adays... i mean you couldnt be expecting a classic from them NOW...

No. But i was expecting an album as good as the last Warren G one. And Nate is still hot. It's Snoop who totally fucked it with his stupid producers and his wack rap performances.

True True.. but its listenable I mean, I can like listen to it without disliking it.but ur right snoop did mess it up

[Trauma-san]

Hmmm.  Check your statistics, I just checked RIAA.com, and Michaels album was certified Platinum @ the beginning of december, then Double Plat, January 25th, 2002.  It was released October 30th, 2001, less than 3 months earlier, making my rough number of 2 months correct.  So....   

that's where YOU'RE wrong, and I'd appreciate an apology not only for your mistake, but for your audacity of accussing me of making a mistake. 

get your calculator out:

weekly sales for michael jacksons invinsible before it fell off the charts:

1. 381,611
2. 192,952
3. 178,583
4. 174,476
5. 112,765
6. 106,767
7. 121,902
8. 118,945
9. 51,504
10. 46,428
11. 35,085
12. 32,801
13. 39,244
14. 30,536
15. 28,567
16. less than 32,264 (he fell off the chart)
17. 27,960 (this was the last week he showed on the charts

that's 4 months there and he isn't double platinum, riaa sometimes certifies based on what the company tells them, so more than likely what you read was a statistic based on what he shipped at the time, peace.

So, lemme get this straight.  You hold more authority than the Recording Industry Association of America, whom not only award the Gold and Platinum status, but INVENTED the Gold and Platinum status awards.... ?  Gotcha.


Forgive me for this, but.... I think I'll take their word for it, homie... and they certified him double platinum less than 3 months after the album came out. 

[Danté Williams]

http://www.riaa.com/gp/database/search_results.asp

There you can see "Invincible" was certified 2x platinum. Labels sometimes dont ask the RIAA to certify some of their albums, since it costs them money. So you can't assure a RIAA certified 2x platinum album has not sold over 3M, but you can be sure that AT LEAST it has sold 2M.

Plus I believe "Invincible" sold over 10 million records worldwide. How is that a flop? The world does not end in the USA, kids.

[Jome]

We are often asked why we don’t just use sales figures from SoundScan. SoundScan measures over-the-counter sales at music retail locations, while the RIAA®'s certification levels are based on unit shipments (minus returns) from manufacturers to a wide range of accounts, including non-retail record clubs, mail order houses, specialty stores, units shipped for Internet fulfillment or direct marketing sales, such as TV-advertised albums.

[Trauma-san]

Alright, since you can search the net for paragraphs like that, search this post, and find where I said he went double plat, I don't understand what the fucking argument is about?  I said he went double platinum, And he did. 

Or, you could look @ it another way.  He sold 4 times as many albums as 213 his first week, and people considered it a flop. 

[AlerG]

yea invincible went 2 x platinum but not in 2 months like you originally stated...anyways this is a 213 thread...the album is dope, peace.

[young ozwald]

WEST UP, FUCC SNOOP AND FUCC ALL THE RADIO STATIONS THAT DO NOT SUPPORT THE WEST.

[Lanka]

What many people don't think about is that they didn't spend much money for the album. They don't have 100 000 dollar producers besides Kanye, they don't have features on there. The Doggystyle Allstars Record did probably coast more than the 213 album

[Bojakabo]

oh dear the world is full with hate these days....


....enjoy the album if u like it like i do, if u dont like it then leave it alone and please dont act like its your life mission to talk it down