It's June 04, 2024, 11:25:47 PM
ok. so you're calling legends of the game stupid. you're calling krs 1 and mc shan stupid. you're calling ll cool j and ice t stupid. you're calling snoop/dpg (and i guess) b.g. knocc out and dre stupid... pac and the outlaws neatly fit under this umbrella as well...
Quotebo and yuk are the ones doin it, of course they are biased.. your arguments are getting even sillier by the momentyou're acting like spider is the voice of reason for taking up for game. spider is biased. why didn't he call game for jumping on buddens? these cats are throwing disses back and forth, and they'll say anything to make the other side look bad at this point. i recognize the game for what it is so i'm not criticizing either side. you started out saying both sides are bad, but in order to make an argument against nibs...now all of a sudden you're apparently on the g-unit side.
bo and yuk are the ones doin it, of course they are biased.. your arguments are getting even sillier by the moment
Quotelmao you didn't call me on shit, you yourself thought i was right about this very threadyou're effectively trying to claim that a "vocal minority" actually represents the majority of posters and viewers in this thread. Quotetry and stay honest that's the least thing you could do for yourelf to prevent clowning yourself againlol! more propoganda and misinformation from you. you are being dishonest again. you're selectively reading again. the very next paragraph i clearly stated:nibs:take another look at this thread. most people have come down either on one side or the other. your position that "both are wrong" is certainly not the majority of the posts in aggregate.
lmao you didn't call me on shit, you yourself thought i was right about this very thread
try and stay honest that's the least thing you could do for yourelf to prevent clowning yourself again
how many times have you been caught lying about statements people have made in this very thread?
yes, by definition. they admitted the beef had nothing to do with them. the argument was always about snoop and the dpg and you are dishonestly trying to parse those arguments again.
QuoteThey still might've had the impression of Eazy being shady for fucking his group fellows outta money. Of course they were riding for Dre but that doesn't mean they didn't share his views on eazymore hypocrisy. why are you applying a double standard here? why is it ok for snoop and dpg to share the views of their boss but "yukmouth must be a puppet"? stop the hypocrisy.
They still might've had the impression of Eazy being shady for fucking his group fellows outta money. Of course they were riding for Dre but that doesn't mean they didn't share his views on eazy
QuoteI ain't got to make up shit, yuk put it all down for me in a perfect way to prove my point, he said if the boss wants something that's what happens, you are avoiding that quote cause you know you ain't got shit to say about it that would help yuk / your point.stop twisting the facts. i've already stated that it's ok for people to take up for their friends. that statement doesn't contradict my position.you've got snoop saying "when you diss dre, you diss yourself" and that's really the same shit. yuk is just drawing parallels between the mafia heirarchy with his metaphor, and that's what you are reacting too. lil j being the "boss". but yuk is simply riding with his people. pac used to do the same type of shit when referring to the outlaws below him and suge above him.
I ain't got to make up shit, yuk put it all down for me in a perfect way to prove my point, he said if the boss wants something that's what happens, you are avoiding that quote cause you know you ain't got shit to say about it that would help yuk / your point.
you haven't been honest or fair in this thread, your arguments have been riddled with hypocrisy and contradictions and i find that fact deplorable.
more importantly, new information has come out. over at game's forum fase succinctly explained that yuk is dissing game specifically because yuk was heated over a comment game made about their conversation at the club at that release party. game said something like "i spoke with yuk, yuk didn't want any beef"; basically the same shit yuk is saying now in that video. and fase speculated that yuk was heated over those comments. so according to game's camp, the yuk/game shit is personal, based on some sort of misunderstanding that has now escalated.
1.those who diss only for attention are stupid2.those who only diss cause someone orders em to, even if their original opinion on the man they dising was totally different are stupidkrs doesn't fit in either of these categories
You just came up with yet another false explanation, saying they came down to one side or another and therefore all disagree with me. the fact of the matter is the 6 people I counted that did blame yuk didn't disagree with me at all, NONE of them said 50 was not wrong when dissing people for attention.
krs stated that he writes a diss verse for every cat in the top 10 that would destroy their careers. granted he doesn't release it; but the fact that krs would think and record venomous ideas at all seems to indicate to me that he doesn't share your position on the matter.
1.those who diss only for attention are stupid2.those who only diss cause someone orders em to, even if their original opinion on the man they dising was totally different are stupid
all you do is put words in my mouthno. you simply have limited communication skills. you made foolish statements, i extrapolated those ideas to show how and where they break down. rather than explaining how i'm misinterpretting your comments or whatever, you whine about metaphors not being literally relevant and other such nonsense.
this is why your argumentative style is dishonest. first you cite a spider argument against yuk.when i point out that spider is biased, you twist the issue into:"why should yuk count more than spider?" don't you realize that you just tried to count spider's position over yuk's? that's hypocrisy.now you are suggesting that i'm counting yuk over spider; which is dishonest as i never came down against either side.
you crack me up. your position was that both sides are wrong. you can't speculate that people who partially agree with your position, fully agree with your position. you don't know where people stand on 50's dissing, or game's taking up for g-unit, so you can't claim those people agree with you. that's simply not an honest way to represent the facts.
you made it about DPG, I was talkin bout snoopyou're twisting the facts again. you didn't bring up snoop. snoop/dpg was my analogy. you tried to selectively parse the argument and split off dpg when it didn't suit you. you're basically arguing that even though dpg admits the beef had nothing to do with them, because the words didn't come out of snoop's mouth maybe the beef had something to do with him. you're grasping at straws.
plsu I never said that Snoop shared my view on it either. This is, yet again, just something you put in my mouth without me ever having said it.again, i'm not putting words in your mouth. i extrapolated your statement to demonstrate that you aren't just critizing yukmouth and game and 50 with your comments; you would also have to critize snoop/dpg, ll cool j, ice t, krs, shan...etc. the problem here is your inability to communicate, your incapacity to appreciate these sorts of comparisons and contrasts. so you're left running your mouth about how "i didn't say that, you're putting words in my mouth" when all i did was take your argument against yuk/game and apply it to ruthless/death row. only a hypocrite would make the sort of argument you've made against yuk and 50 and game, and then deny that the same argument would also apply to snoop, the dpg and death row records. and we can look back at old school cats as well.
yuk as man enough to basically admit "i liked your style until i found out you were a fake and a snitch" and regardless of whether or not 50 is a snitch and a fake; you're arguing that yuk should continues to praise 50's lyrics and music while he's dissing him. yuk gave the guy his props up front a while back. once they get into dissing that whole middle ground is gone. "50 you're a fake and a snitch but i can't wait to buy your next album". you're basically arguing that it's impossible to diss someone if you like their shit. maybe yuk thinks 50 fell off? maybe yuk just doesn't think it's prudent to compliment someone for their talent while he's dissing the guy for his image?
L2DB:By that you automatically name him as an example of the people who consider this kind of behaviour rules. Now I mentioned Spider as an opposite example, proving that not every artist shares your view on this as you claimed. What you do is turn around and claim Spider is biased, when you own example Yuk is in the same beef and therefore not a bit less biased.i argued that yuk has a right to diss, i wasn't evaluating the content of what yuk was saying in his disses. you mentioned spider's arguments against dissing; but spider was dissing in the process. spider was taking subtle shots at yuk and c-bo. spider was criticizing yuk's street credibility, suggesting that he may have whipped the ass of someone in c-bo's camp (possibly c-bo himself)...etc; mocked yuk's career... within his criticisms spider questions yuk's motives for dissing. spider's comments that yuk shouldn't be dissing was a diss per sé aimed at smearing yuk's credibility. i support spider's right to make the comments as they fall under the same umbrella as yuk's; but how can someone speak against jumpin' into other people's beefs or whatever when they're doing the exact same shit in the process? i don't see how you can take spider's comments at face value which is why i accused you of choosing a side when you quote spider's disses as the truth. if you take spider's comments at face value he must be a hypocrite as noone was talking about or thinking about spider and now he's taken shots at the thug lordz and gotten his name out there as well. he's jumped into some shit that didn't concern him. however, i'm not even analyzing spider's comments that deeply as they are just another diss and not actually factual statements. [..]if you want to argue that the content of spider's comments disagree with the views i've been espousing; i'll point out that spider would be a hypocrite if he truly believed those statements and still took subliminal shots at yuk, as he's done. however, spider has a right to diss.
Yuk never admitted that he digged 50 since he began dissing him so him being man enough to say that he liked his style while beefing with him is untrue and made up by you.heh. i misspoke there. i confused yuk's comments with c-bo's on "thug lordz" off the godzilla album. it was c-bo that said 50 was hot but a snitch, yuk gave a nod to dre and xzibit. i certainly misspoke there.
Also I never said Yuk should compliment 50 in his disses, but fact is he loved GRODT and nowadays he tells 50 to stop rapping without him releasing another solo album in between on which he could base the opinion that 50 fell off.it's a diss. he's mocking 50. you're overanalyzing his disses, just as you over-analyzed the "if the boss wants you dead, it's off with your head" line.
The important point is I was talkin about snoop all the time, his case is differnt since he prolly knew Eazy unlike Daz n Kurupt.it sounds like you are focusing on snoop because you know you'd have to condemn the dpg.
yeah, I was talkin about the chronic, puffin on blunts was on the Dre day single but not on the album.. And yet again only Dre dissed Eazy.. Rage and Daz just kicked general battleraps and Kurupt dissed big hutch on 2 lines