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Hip Hop community speaks out against new sampling laws
Kill:
some producers will have to change the way they sample songs, but i agree with M Dogg, sampling is how hiphop got all started and i do think these laws are sad, but prolly they're practically useless anyways
T-Dogg:
I don't really see how this law will bring drastic changes... It just says that if you sample anything, you gotta pay for it. How's that gonna stop the likes of Kanye or Premo? Kanye's CD booklet has all the used samples credited, most likely meaning they paid to use them too. What will he have to do differently in the future because of this law, I don't understand. If he hadn't paid for the samples on his album, don't you think he would've been hit with a million copyright violation lawsuits? You've always had to pay for samples - now you just gotta pay for the non-obvious ones too.
They've phrased it funny in the news bit though - "using even unrecognizable snippets from an existing work is illegal without a license and compensation to the original artist". If it's really "unrecognizeable", meaning nobody can recognize the work as their own, wouldn't the sampler have gotten away with it then? ;)
Kill:
--- Quote from: Jake La Motta on September 20, 2004, 09:05:26 AM ---this is a good law wether you like it or not, the "art" of sampling has lost all meaning
and again wether you like it or not hip hop has helped ruin the musical integrity of popular music
--- End quote ---
1. i don't think i agree, but can u explain: how did this "art" have "meaning" back in the days and how has it "lost it all" now?
2. i don't necessarily disagree, but could you tell me what u understand by "the musical integrity" of pop and how and by doing what hiphop has contributed to ruining it? and what/who else has?
really, not tryin to start beef, but i wanna know what exactly ure talkin about
On The Edge of Insanity:
To be honest there has only been one court ruling, and that was just in Boston, based off of Master P using an NWA song that sampled that Parliament track in one of his films. Because the sample wasn't originally paid for by NWA, the company that owned the rights to the Parliament recording decided to get some money out of it and sue Master P for copyright infringement. This ruling will take ages to become a nationwide thing, and even if it does, people like Premier aren't gonna be hugely effected cause they pay to clear samples at the moment anyway, and anything that is "unrecognisable" is just that, so how is anyone gonna prove which recording such a sample originally came from anyway? The independent labels will still not bother clearing everything, because the majority of the time it is cheaper for them to just not clear anything and risk getting sued for a couple of samples, rather than go through and clear every single sample on an album. It just doesn't make any sense when you are only gonna sell between 5,000 - 20,000 albums.
BIG.DADDY:
Kanye west is definitely FUCKED
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