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1. Gassing of the Kurds 1988.The horrific destruction of Kurdish villages via chemical weapons occured in the final stages of the dirty Iran/Iraq war 80-88.The Kurds during the war naturally sought out their own aspirations, some sympathizing with the Iranians, some launching revolts of their own. In response Saddam had them gassed. Thousands dead. America, as it has been proven by numerous resources, as simple as just visiting your local library, fully assisted the Iraqis in their war and oversaw this horrific act. And no action was taken. The Americans were actively involved in this war on the Iraqi side, so they are at worse indirectly implicit in this act. American love for Saddam ended in 90/91. In 88, they were still fuckin wit each other heavy,
one day I hope to see a decent post from you, Mozip. Good Luck.
Man, why are you not understanding simple concepts? Sit down , take out ya notebook and start writing,Saddams Mass Graves 101: IntroductionWhile Saddam was consistently oppressive and tyrannic through out his around 25 years in power, when mention is made of Saddam Husseins internal crimes, the two of note are:1. Gassing of the Kurds 1988.The horrific destruction of Kurdish villages via chemical weapons occured in the final stages of the dirty Iran/Iraq war 80-88.The Kurds during the war naturally sought out their own aspirations, some sympathizing with the Iranians, some launching revolts of their own. In response Saddam had them gassed. Thousands dead. America, as it has been proven by numerous resources, as simple as just visiting your local library, fully assisted the Iraqis in their war and oversaw this horrific act. And no action was taken. The Americans were actively involved in this war on the Iraqi side, so they are at worse indirectly implicit in this act. American love for Saddam ended in 90/91. In 88, they were still fuckin wit each other heavy,2. The crushing of the Shias 1991.Following the ouster of Iraq from Kuwait, the Americans stopped, they didnt go into Iraq and finish the job. Thats been debated since, i aint trying to do it here. But regardless, the Shias and the Kurds sought to rise up while Saddam was vulnerable. Bush the elder even fully stated on live tv that they SHOULD rise up. He actively encouraged them to, and quitely sat down and shut up when Saddam used the remains of his army to completely wipe out entire civilians populations. Thats where most of the graves are located, southern Iraq where Shias are the majority. The Americans even, unbelievable as it may seem, allowed Iraqi helicopters to perform missions despite an applied no fly zone. The intentions behind those actions are up for debate, although I personally believe that American govt officials at the time sought to keep Iraq under a secular dictatorship albiet battered and bruised and no longer a threat to oil/israeli interests.Either way you look at it, irregardless of what incident led to the graves, America is involved and complicit in these crimes. That doesnt mean America is inherently evil. It just means you shouldnt have the audacity to state these events as your reasoning for removing the man.
Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on October 14, 2004, 01:11:41 PMone day I hope to see a decent post from you, Mozip. Good Luck.I used to be paranois like you, and thought that everything was a conspiracy and the news channells all lied. I still don't think we get the truth, but I just don't care anymore, because I am not in a position to stop it. I also refuse to assume an unproven truth (something I didn't always do). Just because America may be telling lies doesn't mean we can figure what the truth is. You don't know what really happened with those Kurds, so you shouldn't make bold statements. A lot goes on behind the scenes that we don't know about. I understand your anger towards propaganda, but you can't fight propaganda with propaganda and expect to win. Unless you were there and saw who killed the Kurds, or were in the some special meeting and heard American officers give the okay, you cannot lay claim to knowing the truth.
Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on October 13, 2004, 10:03:21 PMMan, why are you not understanding simple concepts? Sit down , take out ya notebook and start writing,Saddams Mass Graves 101: IntroductionWhile Saddam was consistently oppressive and tyrannic through out his around 25 years in power, when mention is made of Saddam Husseins internal crimes, the two of note are:1. Gassing of the Kurds 1988.The horrific destruction of Kurdish villages via chemical weapons occured in the final stages of the dirty Iran/Iraq war 80-88.The Kurds during the war naturally sought out their own aspirations, some sympathizing with the Iranians, some launching revolts of their own. In response Saddam had them gassed. Thousands dead. America, as it has been proven by numerous resources, as simple as just visiting your local library, fully assisted the Iraqis in their war and oversaw this horrific act. And no action was taken. The Americans were actively involved in this war on the Iraqi side, so they are at worse indirectly implicit in this act. American love for Saddam ended in 90/91. In 88, they were still fuckin wit each other heavy,2. The crushing of the Shias 1991.Following the ouster of Iraq from Kuwait, the Americans stopped, they didnt go into Iraq and finish the job. Thats been debated since, i aint trying to do it here. But regardless, the Shias and the Kurds sought to rise up while Saddam was vulnerable. Bush the elder even fully stated on live tv that they SHOULD rise up. He actively encouraged them to, and quitely sat down and shut up when Saddam used the remains of his army to completely wipe out entire civilians populations. Thats where most of the graves are located, southern Iraq where Shias are the majority. The Americans even, unbelievable as it may seem, allowed Iraqi helicopters to perform missions despite an applied no fly zone. The intentions behind those actions are up for debate, although I personally believe that American govt officials at the time sought to keep Iraq under a secular dictatorship albiet battered and bruised and no longer a threat to oil/israeli interests.Either way you look at it, irregardless of what incident led to the graves, America is involved and complicit in these crimes. That doesnt mean America is inherently evil. It just means you shouldnt have the audacity to state these events as your reasoning for removing the man.This is all a Conspiracy that cant be proven.
Quote from: Shallow on October 14, 2004, 01:43:28 PMQuote from: King Tech Quadafi on October 14, 2004, 01:11:41 PMone day I hope to see a decent post from you, Mozip. Good Luck.I used to be paranois like you, and thought that everything was a conspiracy and the news channells all lied. I still don't think we get the truth, but I just don't care anymore, because I am not in a position to stop it. I also refuse to assume an unproven truth (something I didn't always do). Just because America may be telling lies doesn't mean we can figure what the truth is. You don't know what really happened with those Kurds, so you shouldn't make bold statements. A lot goes on behind the scenes that we don't know about. I understand your anger towards propaganda, but you can't fight propaganda with propaganda and expect to win. Unless you were there and saw who killed the Kurds, or were in the some special meeting and heard American officers give the okay, you cannot lay claim to knowing the truth.I dont know who you are, but you were never me. Dont get it twisted. And dont apply that essay to me because it is non applicable.
You fuckin idiots. THESE MASS GRAVES HAPPENED UNDER AMERICAN SUPERVISION AND/OR APPROVAL. so the only thing proven is how complicit your govt is in these crimes.
Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on October 14, 2004, 04:15:13 PMQuote from: Shallow on October 14, 2004, 01:43:28 PMQuote from: King Tech Quadafi on October 14, 2004, 01:11:41 PMone day I hope to see a decent post from you, Mozip. Good Luck.I used to be paranois like you, and thought that everything was a conspiracy and the news channells all lied. I still don't think we get the truth, but I just don't care anymore, because I am not in a position to stop it. I also refuse to assume an unproven truth (something I didn't always do). Just because America may be telling lies doesn't mean we can figure what the truth is. You don't know what really happened with those Kurds, so you shouldn't make bold statements. A lot goes on behind the scenes that we don't know about. I understand your anger towards propaganda, but you can't fight propaganda with propaganda and expect to win. Unless you were there and saw who killed the Kurds, or were in the some special meeting and heard American officers give the okay, you cannot lay claim to knowing the truth.I dont know who you are, but you were never me. Dont get it twisted. And dont apply that essay to me because it is non applicable.Why is it non applicable? Because I'm not you I can't recognize a basic human character trait. Coming from a guy that speaks like he has all the answers about people he doesn't know, I don't get it. Now I could be wrong, and maybe you're not paranoic. Maybe you're just some moron who comes to forums and spreads conspiracy theories to het a rise out of people. If so, then I apologize.
Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on October 13, 2004, 02:28:45 PMYou fuckin idiots. THESE MASS GRAVES HAPPENED UNDER AMERICAN SUPERVISION AND/OR APPROVAL. so the only thing proven is how complicit your govt is in these crimes.Dude your an idiot.