Pro Evolution Soccer 4

[On The Edge of Insanity]

Copped yesterday on release date, and played solidly from 6pm til 1 in the morning. All I can really say wow! FIFA has been well and truly sonned.

[bez]

Beast, gunna ave to get it.

[On The Edge of Insanity]

Yeah man, pick it up as soon as you can, has all this seasons Premiership teams in it, although the transfers are a little behind (Liverpool don't have Alonso, Everton still have Rooney, etc), but its so easy to edit it all this time that its not really a problem. The animation is top notch, and there are incidents where the referee has to step in to stop people from fighting and stuff like that. Goalies have improved a lot, but it is now possible to score more screamers from long range if you're coming onto the ball. There are so many little touches that just make it better than last year's version, I have a feeling I'm gonna be discovering new stuff in this game for months yet.

[bez]

dam sounds amazing.  I still play Pro 2. lol and I think thats amazing.

Can't wait to get this now.  I mite be able to get it tomoz, staff discount

[white Boy]

i only like soccer games for sega

[acbaylove]

I'm waiting for the PC version in November. It will have the multiplayer option. Tha shit.

[Kill]

vol. 3 sonned fifa 04 too. so i'm not surprised

[Black_Smoke]

yea im gonna get this when it comes out for xbox early next year

[Jome]

vol. 3 sonned fifa 04 too. so i'm not surprised

Pro1 and 2 sonned FIFA as well.
Pro is for Football fans, Fifa is for soccer fans.. 

dam sounds amazing.  I still play Pro 2. lol and I think thats amazing.

Can't wait to get this now.  I mite be able to get it tomoz, staff discount

Pro2 is wack compared to Pro3.
Those who have played Pro4, says Pro3 is wack compared to Pro4.. can't wait to cop it. 
The only bad thing is that you have to edit the English teams, North London etc. sucks.

[acbaylove]

You can edit everything, man. Or you can download patches. So it's easy. Once you download a good patch (there are tons of them in the net), the game is really perfect.

[Throwback]

I've play fifa 2005 alot this week. its entertaining enough for me. its a lot better than 2004.

[On The Edge of Insanity]

vol. 3 sonned fifa 04 too. so i'm not surprised

Pro1 and 2 sonned FIFA as well.
Pro is for Football fans, Fifa is for soccer fans.. 

dam sounds amazing.  I still play Pro 2. lol and I think thats amazing.

Can't wait to get this now.  I mite be able to get it tomoz, staff discount

Pro2 is wack compared to Pro3.
Those who have played Pro4, says Pro3 is wack compared to Pro4.. can't wait to cop it. 
The only bad thing is that you have to edit the English teams, North London etc. sucks.

Yeah Pro Evo 2 did suck a lot, Pro Evo 3 was better than that, but the new one is a big leap forward for me, everything is just better executed than in previous editions. The editing only takes a few minutes anyway, cause the menus are well easy to use this time, I had Tottenham renamed, and with all their new players within about ten minutes.

I'm still discovering stuff with this game though, had a big tournament with some mates yesterday, and so many cool things happened. The funniest is when you score a goal, the player goes away to celebrate, and then the commentator says "oh, the linesman's got his flag up", and the goal gets disallowed. Pure quality, especially when it happens to one of your mates.

[Jome]

I've play fifa 2005 alot this week. its entertaining enough for me. its a lot better than 2004.

Well, you're still young, so there still might be hope for you. 

Peep what the experts say:

Pro Evolution Soccer 4 - Average score: 93
FIFA Soccer 2005 - Average score: 81

And that's the average of about 10-12 reviews by games sites.. it's not even a competition.

The editing only takes a few minutes anyway, cause the menus are well easy to use this time, I had Tottenham renamed, and with all their new players within about ten minutes.

Yeah, but unfortunately there's more teams in Europe than Tottenham.. 
I often play Milan, Inter, Barca, etc. so you gotta change a grip of player names, especially the Dutch names are always ridiculous.

[daWappla]

I played it yesterday for the first time... found it a bit strange compared to PES3 cause to me it felt less realistic because of the new passing system.. passes just work better which is cool but then again it felt too easy... especially the goalies improved a lot on short range shots.. what used to be a 90% goal in Pes3 gets caught now alsmost evertyime... just gotta adapt.. cant wait for November for the PC version.. though I havenīt figured out that indirect freekick system I really like the idea .. fooled a friend of mine yesterday with that trick.. lol ... also they fixed that shot-gauge-meter thing.. in PES3 those meters just got up way to quick now they seem to work properly...

I'm still discovering stuff with this game though, had a big tournament with some mates yesterday, and so many cool things happened. The funniest is when you score a goal, the player goes away to celebrate, and then the commentator says "oh, the linesman's got his flag up", and the goal gets disallowed. Pure quality, especially when it happens to one of your mates.

How does that work? I mean do you have the option to press a button after you shot a goal to go for the celebration or is that done automatic and you just lose the goal for that shit.. because if you canīt choose then I think thats just shit.. like that "hands" thing in PES3 .. that always upset me because it only did harm to my play and almost never got me any advantage... lol

Hopefully the PC version supports multplayer via the internet because for now I only read about multiplayer via LAN...

[On The Edge of Insanity]

Jome, the Italian and Spanish leagues are fully licensed, player names, kits sponsers and makes, team names, everything, so you don't need to do anything for them, except do a few transfers that have happened since the game was made. I haven't noticed too many problems with player names, all the Premiership teams seem to have the correct names, and along with Spain and Italy those are the only clubs I really play with. Did play with Porto and noticed their names were a little screwed up though.

daWappla - didn't quite understand what you were getting at. Basically,  sometimes when you shoot first time when you receive the ball in a offside position and it goes in, your player runs away to celebrate as if you have actually scored a goal. Of course, you were really offside so half way through the celebration the camera flicks to the linesman, who has his flag up, and the goal is disallowed because you were offside. On the handball thing, I haven't seen a single handball since I started playing, so I think they have probably scrapped that idea. The new advantages system is amazing though.