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i like the song..shit is funny...and cuba "radio: where's my pie!!!??" gooding jr is 1 of the whitest black men on earth ion care what nebody says..when ricky got shot..it scared the black out of his ass..what eminem can speak his mind on his race...and nas cant..people need to get they heads out they ass..and jus enjoy the music..he aint doin shit but callin out all the uncle tom's jus like hood critic's do..at barbershops and shit..u dont wanna hear how them niggas and bitches be talkin at wear i get my fades from..u'd think huey newton and nat turner was finna come thru or sumthinnas showed his ass on this song..prop's nasir...
Quote from: All American Gangsta on December 07, 2004, 02:50:48 PMi like the song..shit is funny...and cuba "radio: where's my pie!!!??" gooding jr is 1 of the whitest black men on earth ion care what nebody says..when ricky got shot..it scared the black out of his ass..what eminem can speak his mind on his race...and nas cant..people need to get they heads out they ass..and jus enjoy the music..he aint doin shit but callin out all the uncle tom's jus like hood critic's do..at barbershops and shit..u dont wanna hear how them niggas and bitches be talkin at wear i get my fades from..u'd think huey newton and nat turner was finna come thru or sumthinnas showed his ass on this song..prop's nasir...Hahaha for real though. These cats are acting like Nas made "Horny Lil Devil" part 2 or something. You're right about Eminem, he made that song "White America". I give Nas props for having artistic integrity. Maybe you guys would like it if Nas went back to being "escobar" and pretend to be a mobster drug dealer again.Like I said earlier, which of course was ignored by the "Nas is racist" crowd, these are issues that are discussed amongst ourselves all the time and are legitimate issues. Bringing up those issues are intended to spark much needed debate. Since most of yall are on the outside looking in, you're passing judgement on something that you not only know nothing about, but refuse to even understand and that says more about you than it does about Nas.
"Let's hear it, one for the coons on UPN 9 and WB who 'yes massa' on TV/ Whatever happened to Weezy, the Red Foxxes who never got Emmys but were real to me?" ^^^ That line is dope, and it's true. It could have even been directed towards Red and Meth for selling out and being the white man's mascot, they totally debased themselves on that sitcom to play lapdog to whitey and earn an extra buck.And everyone is automatically assuming that Nas dissed Tiger, Kobe, and O.J. just because they marry white women. Don't assume.
This thread reminds me of the Episode of Donahue Dave Chapelle was on: Angry White Men.LOL.
Shallow, all you have demonstrated here is that Nas didn't get his facts straight at times, whoopdy fuckin doo. You have failed to demonstrate however that he is racist. Why did he diss Kobe, OJ and Tiger? It's obvious but apparently yall don't see it, let me break it down for you.Kobe: Gets in trouble in Colorado, then tried to snitch on Shaq to get himself out of it, then proceeds to destroy the Laker franchise in the process.Tiger: Gets props in golf, embraced by the black community but calls himself "caliblasion" or whatever that was, which was pretty much a fuck you to those who supported him. It's not like the white golfers accepted him, they were making fried chicken and watermelon jokes about him.OJ: Ditched his black wife for his white trophy wife, forgets that he's black, kills his trophy wife and tries to run home, hires Johnny Cochran to play the race card, black community supports him, after all he's one of us right? Right....That's why Nas dissed these fools. Them having white wives is immaterial, shit I've messed with white girls myself. It's their behavior that he along with other black folks find repulsive. That's why he called them out.It has nothing to do with how they act specifically or being articulate or any of those kind of issues that others brought up. It has to do with their behavior period. If you watched the movie Bamboozled, the whole premise of the movie was the critique of the new millenium minstrel show, which is basically where black actors, entertainers or rappers debase themselves by playing upon fucked up stereotypes in order to sell records or to make it big in movies. We have this in hiphop, we have this in acting. A lot of black folks have a problem with this due to the fact that we as a people are judged by the worst among us, by the shucking and jiving negro that will appear on movies like Soul Plane, trying to get that extra buck from massa. That's what Nas is talking about here.
Shallow, just let it go. You're on the outside looking in. Juronimo is black, he feels what Nas is saying and understands it.
Quote from: SGV on December 08, 2004, 11:33:47 AMShallow, just let it go. You're on the outside looking in. Juronimo is black, he feels what Nas is saying and understands it. This has to do with right and wrong, not black and not black. I hate when people say if you're not black then you can't...... whatever. Nas tries to come off as this holier than thou type of person and he constanty contradicts it. If some KKK guy said the same thing I probably wouldn't think anything of it, because that guy would be seen as the idiot he is and there would be no reason for me say what had already been said by everyone else, but it isn't okay for a black person to show racism against blacks or accuse them of being less "black" than they should be.
Quote from: Shallow on December 08, 2004, 12:25:27 PMQuote from: SGV on December 08, 2004, 11:33:47 AMShallow, just let it go. You're on the outside looking in. Juronimo is black, he feels what Nas is saying and understands it. This has to do with right and wrong, not black and not black. I hate when people say if you're not black then you can't...... whatever. Nas tries to come off as this holier than thou type of person and he constanty contradicts it. If some KKK guy said the same thing I probably wouldn't think anything of it, because that guy would be seen as the idiot he is and there would be no reason for me say what had already been said by everyone else, but it isn't okay for a black person to show racism against blacks or accuse them of being less "black" than they should be.The funny thing is that white people really have an issue with blacks talking about the black community, because it's one thing they cannot control. Black will not have any of this talking about black issues. Now if Eminem talks about white America, his an artist genious, his stating his opinion, but if Nas is talking about the state of black people, you get pissed because it's not your place to say shit, but Nas can. You are saying his racist, for dissing black people for doing stupit shit. It's a black community issue, and you get mad because you can't understand it has nothing to so with black and white, or right or wrong. What this has to do with is self image, it has to do with self hate of your race, and many other issues. I can give examples in the Latin community, because that's what I know, and speaking to many black people, they have the same issues. Like when a child is born, it's better to be lighter, because lighter is considered more attractive. In music videos, it's the lighter girls because that's see as beautiful. In Latin communities, if a woman is attractive enough, she will more than likely marry a white man, because that's considered a step up in class status. Black women though are not liked by white men, except white men that want to be black. When a Latin man gets an education, he goes for white women because they are a sign that they have made it, they can be accepted by white America. I've heard the same with black. In our communities, many women are left by the men that are still in the community, because our good men leave and marry white women (more of a myth, since that's our women's excuse to why there is no good Latin men) My mom was not a racist, but before she died she said it very clearly she does not want me to marry a white woman. It's an issue that deals with us, and our self hate of our race, not the white race. You guys just happen to be who we try to be like. The issue is even deeper than that. That's all just a quick type out. You can't even begin to understand it, so please don't try.