Pac's real sales figures...

[Ras Kass' Toothpick]

It doesnt matter, All Eyez On Me IS still the listed as the higher selling album on ANY professional list of the best selling albums of all time.

You are making that up to make 2Pac look better, that is pathetic.  That statement is competely wrong.

The fact AEOM is a Diamond/near Diamond award album and Get Rich or Die Trying is NOT automatically makes AEOM the higher selling album, regardless of how many people bought 50's album.

So more people can buy 50 Cent's album but 2Pac's can still be the higher selling album?  Now that's the logic of a dickrider. 

Sorry, but album sales are measured by the multi-platinum level, not by actual units sold. Thats the way it works, and the way it always will be.

Only if it makes 2Pac look better, right?  Sales aren't measured by actual units sold?  That's comedy.

Word at Hellrazor...guy knows the facts

 

[Don Seer]

biggie went diamond.. pac didn't... end of. 

[israelihiphop]

biggie went diamond.. pac didn't... end of. 

true, Pac only sold 9 million(really 4.5 million)copies of AEOM, while Biggie sold 10 million(5 million)of LAD...

[ImmortalOne]

It doesnt matter, All Eyez On Me IS still the listed as the higher selling album on ANY professional list of the best selling albums of all time.

You are making that up to make 2Pac look better, that is pathetic.  That statement is competely wrong.

The fact AEOM is a Diamond/near Diamond award album and Get Rich or Die Trying is NOT automatically makes AEOM the higher selling album, regardless of how many people bought 50's album.

So more people can buy 50 Cent's album but 2Pac's can still be the higher selling album?  Now that's the logic of a dickrider. 

Sorry, but album sales are measured by the multi-platinum level, not by actual units sold. Thats the way it works, and the way it always will be.

Only if it makes 2Pac look better, right?  Sales aren't measured by actual units sold?  That's comedy.

Word at Hellrazor...guy knows the facts

 

All Eyez On Me sold more than Get Rich or Die Trying. This is a FACT. There is NO disputing it whatsoever.

Pac shits all over 50, musically, lyrically, and conceptually. Pac has SOLD MORE records than 50. Pac will always be a higher selling artist than 50.

CLOSE THREAD.

[ImmortalOne]

biggie went diamond.. pac didn't... end of. 

true, Pac only sold 9 million(really 4.5 million)copies of AEOM, while Biggie sold 10 million(5 million)of LAD...

AEOM was certified 9 x platinum almost 7 years ago, and has been a steady catalog seller since. You mean to tell me it hasnt gone up since that time??  Its probably already passed up LAD a long time ago, and if it hasnt yet, it will soon enough......Pac's double cd has been a much more consistant back catalog seller than Biggie's double cd.

[ImmortalOne]

Str8 from the RIAA:

2 PAC   ALL EYEZ ON ME   06/18/98   DEATH ROW/POLYGRAM   M (9)   ALBUM   SOLO   Std
50 CENT   GET RICH OR DIE TRYIN'   12/09/03   AFTERMATH / INTERSCOPE   M (6)   ALBUM   SOLO   Std

couldnt have said it better myself.....last I checked, 9 was greater than 6.

[W-Side]

gotta love these pac groupies


last I checked the artist who sold more is the one who.. hmm sold more.

[..] the higher selling album, regardless of how many people bought 50's album.

the word 'retard' comes to mind


and please don't tell me Pac is the goat cuz artists dickride him, he's the most well known legend in hiphop and dead.. there's nothin else to expect

as for the impact, I'll prefer no impact at all over the negative influence pac had (even if it ain't his fault) any day

there is no goat and sucess doesn't have shit to do with quality, Pac had some RnB hooks, posed for pcis like this one and was backed up by the biggest label of it's time, with who's rise he had nothin to do with plus a beef that gave him a shitload of publicity just like the Ja beef did for 50.. --> a shitload of sold albums but he wasn't yet bigger than the DPG, his death made him the biggest

props to Pac for being a talented artist but you kids make him a god which he ain't, please get of his nuts

[NobodyButMe]

these topics are so controversial. regardless of whether or not pac is the GOAT, record sales don't tell the whole story.

you can't compare albums and artists from different times. just like you can't compare athletes or writers or actors from different times.

people have different resources available at different times and you can't base their sales on anything. pac sold 6 million albums (or whatever the fuck it was) in a time when rap was being attacked by everyone. in 1996, rap was not an accepted form of music nor an acceptable form of art. back then, a big part of the presidential campaign had to do with bringing down rappers. back then, the only commercials pac was allowed on was radio commercials sellin malt liquor.

nowadays, rap is on commercials and tv and all over the pop culture scene. it's all over tv. 50 cent has his own clothing and shoe line. back when pac sold those albums, it was part of people's presidential campaign to hold him down. mtv didn't have 48 million tv shows or specials about him and they didn't even have a solid rap show at that time.

today, 50 makes rakim sound like a nursery school rhymer. if someone spit "i came in the door, i said it before, i never let the mic magnetize me no more" today as a new rhyme, people would clown him because that shit isn't nearly as complex as anything coming out nowadays. but back then, that shit was fresh. it was raw. it was unheard of back then. just like pac. pac was the biggest thing to hit rap and most definately paved the way for 50 to sell so many goddam records.

people don't realize that you can't take different people from different times and cultures and compare them. it's just not plausible and it doesn't respect either of the time periods that the people are from.

[NobodyButMe]

This doesn't make Pac the greatest of all time, it just makes him the most hyped of all time. Why didn't Pac sell this much when he was still alive? It's mainly the hype that sold. Don't get me wrong, Pac might as well be the GOAT, but it wouldn't come to my mind concluding that from his posthumous record sales.

Where you listening to hip hop in 96', when Pac was on top of the rap game?? I dont know if you were or if you werent, but In any case, I was there to see it, and he was HUGE.....bigger than 50 is now. When AEOM came out, the impact it had on the rap game was almost incalcuable, and it sold over 5 million in the first two months of its release alone....at a time when rap was far less popular/commercially acceptable than it is now.

lol bullshit

1.  50 is so much more popular now than pac was back in 96'.......pac wasn't even the most popular rapper back in 96' 

2. rap was JUST as accepted as it is now, maybe even more so , because rap is clouded or dilluded more with pop than ever, hip hop was at it's pinacle back in 94-98 as far as comercial success....during this time you had average rappers going 3 time platnum...there were more big numbers going up in the mid 90's than now, that's fact dude lol

Hahahaha, I think your living in a fantasy world. Let me drop some REAL knowledge for you.....learn it, and learn it well.

 You obviously werent listening to rap in 96'. Pac was BY FAR the most popular rapper in 96'........there was nobody even close. This aint even up for debate. AEOM was the highest selling rap album of 96', it had 6 singles (including two #1 hits), and the Makaveli album was also a #1 album and again, Pac was the first artist ever to have two #1 albums in the same year. Pac OWNED 96', and had he survived, he woulda owned 97', 98', 99', and beyond as well if he so desired to do so.....he was one album away from shutting down the entire rap game, and there was nobody who could stop him, the game was his for the taking. 96' was just the beginning of his hour.

When 50 makes two #1 albums in the same year, does two movies, records over 300 songs, and is involved in the biggest beef in hip hop history and takes on a whole coast single handedly, then maybe he will have been bigger than Pac......until then, NADA. Also, 50's album didnt have any impact or influence at all, it just sold mad units. AEOM changed the entire rap game and created a new formula for other rappers to follow, including 50 himself. That album is the REAL blueprint, the album every mainstream hardcore rapper today dreams of making. 50 was perhaps bigger than Pac was in 94' or even 95', but nowhere near as big as Pac was in 96'.

And hell no rap wasnt at its commercial peak in 94'-98....it was at its ARTISTIC peak, yes, but not its commercial peak. Back then, there were no such thing as rappers who sold a million in the first week or 8 million overall (Snoop came the closest with Doggystyle's 800,000 and I think Pac sold about 700,000 with Makaveli in their first week respectively). Rap is far more commercially accepted by the general public today then it was 10 years ago....that is most definatly a fact. If 50 and Em came out in 94-96' (if they would have been able to come out at all, since back then you actually had to have TALENT to get signed to a label), they wouldnt push nearly the same units they do today.

i agree with you

[acbaylove]

You all are crazy, lol.

In 1996 alone, Pac was been certified 7x platinum with AEOM (December 9, 1996) and 2x platinum (January 10, 1997) with Makaveli. That's 9 fucking millions just in 11 months, from feb 1996 to jan 1997.

SHUT THE FUCK UP, PLEASE!!!

And i quoted RIAA's certifications, so that means ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES.

[ImmortalOne]

These anti-Pac heads are a chuckle a minute. Fuck outta here.

FACT (not opinion): Pac is the biggest selling hip hop artist of all time, according to the RIAA, Billboard, and the Guiness Book of World Records. Id say that makes it pretty much OFFICIAL. If anyone even attempts to argue this, you are one thick-headed motherfucker that cant admit he's wrong.

If you anti-Pac heads dont like it, I dont know what to tell you, but those are the facts. Either accept them, or go cry like a bitch about it somewhere else. Now, close this piece of shit thread.

[ImmortalOne]

You all are crazy, lol.

In 1996 alone, Pac was been certified 7x platinum with AEOM (December 9, 1996) and 2x platinum (January 10, 1997) with Makaveli. That's 9 fucking millions just in 11 months, from feb 1996 to jan 1997.

SHUT THE FUCK UP, PLEASE!!!

And i quoted RIAA's certifications, so that means ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES.

And those were the numbers waaaaay back then. Now, the numbers (for both albums combined) is closer to like 15-16 million, and they're still going strong. AEOM has been on the charts for over 450 consecutive weeks I believe.

[Da WCC Hopar!]

man u guys are all fuckin crazy i say we all just STFU!!! and enjoy the music these artists have created for us to listen to

[W-Side]

These anti-Pac heads are a chuckle a minute. Fuck outta here.

FACT (not opinion): Pac is the biggest selling hip hop artist of all time, according to the RIAA, Billboard, and the Guiness Book of World Records. Id say that makes it pretty much OFFICIAL. If anyone even attempts to argue this, you are one thick-headed motherfucker that cant admit he's wrong.

If you anti-Pac heads dont like it, I dont know what to tell you, but those are the facts. Either accept them, or go cry like a bitch about it somewhere else. Now, close this piece of shit thread.

lol @"anti pac heads" who in this thread hated on pac ? sales don't tell shit about quality so doubting that pac sold as much as he did is not hatin, if the peeps who said 50 sold more are wrong then they are simply mistaking. Pac could be the biggest selling music artist ever and it still wouldn't mean a thing about the quality of his work. The only peeps who can sell that kinda numbers are peeps who are supported by the pop crowd who will buy whatever is on top. That goes for Pac, Em, 50 and all of em. Ice Cube is a legend and a vet who did way more for HipHop than Pac (talkin bout positive things) and he never did those kinda numbers. That's cause the mtv kids don't feel his shit as they do Pac's, Em's or 50's cause he's not commercialized the way they are, not runnig around with his shirt of whenever the camera is on as 50 and Pac do / did, ect.


nobody said 50 was better than Pac
how can you possibly be such a dickrider to get mad about someone doubting your hero's sales ? sales ain't shit when it comes to quality.. and that's the reason you are crying for and callin everyone an "anti Pac head" for ? ..dizzamn his nuts are deeply anchored in your mouth, that's for sure

[Shallow]

Also, somebody has yet to come up with a refutation that Pac was the first artist in ANY genre to have two #1 albums in the same year.

Elvis did it in '57. The Beatles did it in '67 I think, '65 and '63, if you count outside the US. Elvis definately had it in '57 in the US though.