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Eddie G.

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Re: Paris's Sonic Jihad is the best westcoast album ever created
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2005, 09:54:57 AM »
To some, an entertaining album is grounds for it being a good album.  To me, I don't need messages in my music when I'm listening.  I listen to music mainly to relax.
 

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Re: Paris's Sonic Jihad is the best westcoast album ever created
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2005, 01:14:35 PM »
Donald, atleast someone at this forum is giving props and respect to Paris for staying real while the rest of these rappers just stay real dumb!  Paris is old school, he's from the generation that believed that hip-hop could be entertaining and still be very political and even educational.

Yo.. but Donald, you challenged everyone to present a West Coast album superior to Sonic Jihad, you said "The Chronic" wasn't superior because the Chronic didn't elevate and uplift your mind, well what about Rass Kass "Soul On Ice"? 

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Re: Paris's Sonic Jihad is the best westcoast album ever created
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2005, 01:37:04 PM »
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Although the statement Donald started this topic with was pretty controversial (some would have said plain wrong), and certainly open to debate, some of the people who have replied have just come up with stupid suggestions of better albums. I mean comon Mauzip, TQ? You even listed the fact that he had four videos as if that was some indication of it being better than Sonic Jihad. Now I personally don't even think Sonic Jihad is Paris's best, or near being the best westcoast album ever, but Donald is entitled to his opinion, and at least hes backing it up with legitimate arguments, which is more than can be said for most of the topics on this forum claiming artists/albums are classics, and top five of all time, etc.

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Re: Paris's Sonic Jihad is the best westcoast album ever created
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2005, 02:36:32 PM »
Don't forget, "The Chronic" was actually very political.  Dre says in the album, "No Medallions, No Dreadlocks, No Blackfists/.... it's just that gansta shit!", which to me is saying that the streets were fed up with being conscious, and that it was time to start busting guns. 
At the time of it's release, racial tension and violence was boiling over on the West Coast, the Rodney King trial and the LA riots were hot topics at that time, as evident in Dre's track "The Day The Niggaz Took Over", the theme to this song is the LA riots!  In that song there is a line, "Break the white man off somethin lovely/ I don't love them so them can't love me".  Lyrics like this were prevelent throughout the Chronic album, and could even be considered as lyrics with the potential of inciting a riot, this is no small thing, a riot is civil war. 

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Re: Paris's Sonic Jihad is the best westcoast album ever created
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2005, 03:03:44 PM »
The Chronic is the greatest westcoast album ever. There is no questions. It set up everything that made the westcoast the dominate coast. Also N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton and 2Pac - Me Against the World and Makaveli are all very strong CDs that can uplift, entertain and start revolutions with.

Paris is a great choice to bring to the table in terms of arguments, but in westcoast hip-hop, it's the same as the NBA, we all Jordan is the greatest, all there is now is an argument over who's the best. Same with westcoast rap, there will never be nothing greater than the Chronic, but the battle for 2nd is still a great argument.
 

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Re: Paris's Sonic Jihad is the best westcoast album ever created
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2005, 04:02:07 PM »
Sonic Jihad isn't even Paris' best album, I'd put The Devil.. Sleeping.. and Guerilla Funk over it.

Most hip-hop is now keyboard driven, because the majority of hip-hop workstations have loops and patches that enable somebody with marginal skills to put tracks together,...

Unfortunately, most hip-hop artists gravitated towards the path of least resistance by relying on these pre-set patches. As a result, electric guitar and real musicians became devalued, and a lot of hip-hop now sounds the same.

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Re: Paris's Sonic Jihad is the best westcoast album ever created
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2005, 08:12:11 PM »
Donald, atleast someone at this forum is giving props and respect to Paris for staying real while the rest of these rappers just stay real dumb! Paris is old school, he's from the generation that believed that hip-hop could be entertaining and still be very political and even educational.

Yo.. but Donald, you challenged everyone to present a West Coast album superior to Sonic Jihad, you said "The Chronic" wasn't superior because the Chronic didn't elevate and uplift your mind, well what about Rass Kass "Soul On Ice"?


I'm glad you understand where I'm coming from in terms of artists that actually bring something to the table.  About Ras Kass's Soul on Ice album...I agree that with that album he stands out from damn near eveyone else but the entire album IMO doesn't match up to Paris's.  To everyone else that replied(good or bad, agree or disagree)thanks and keep them coming.

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Re: Paris's Sonic Jihad is the best westcoast album ever created
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2005, 03:28:12 AM »
sonic was a cool album yea but i wouldnt even place it in my favorite top 10 westcoast albums. guerilla funk was even better. btw no1 and no2 are chronic and doggystyle.
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Re: Paris's Sonic Jihad is the best westcoast album ever created
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2005, 03:33:02 AM »
yo.. A.G.... devin the dude is from the south!

sonic jihad was tight as fuck... best west coast album ever? naw.. no way