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Quote from: Mauzip on April 01, 2005, 03:22:46 AMThe number of abortions is nothing compared to the number of people that "have died because the pope said they shouldn't use condoms".So usually girls doesnt use condoms cause the Pope said so? Are you serious? Not even in the Vatican it's like that, lol.
The number of abortions is nothing compared to the number of people that "have died because the pope said they shouldn't use condoms".
mauzip, thats bsthey had the choice to makethey made their choice and they must live with the cosequences
you're joking right tonio? hardcore catholics hang off everything the church says..
Mauzip you are not getting the point. The Pope, from a religious and ethical point of view, doesnt like pre-marriage sex. That's not what this Pope is saying, but what every Pope in our history will repeat, because that's our religion. He said real Christians devoted to Christ should have sex only after they get married, so they shouldnt use condoms because having sex with your wife is something wonderful, normal and ethically correct. Get the point straight. He aint against condoms in general, but he's more likely against free sex and "empty" sex, pre-marriage sex, savage sex, sex with no love, etc..About abortion, once again, get your facts straight. Like i said, Pope is pro-family. After two people get married, they should have kids. So to kill them is something the Church cant accept. But you gotta start from a FAMILY prospective, cause that's the only one the Church accepts. It's pointless to say that Pope is against 15 years old girls raped who wanna abort! Pope is pro-family and pro-life, like our religion is.Then you can have sex before you get married (i did), you can use condoms to fight AIDS (i did and i do), you can consider abortion (i didnt yet), and you can even consider euthanasia. In fact, in The Netherlands where you live, euthanasia is legal, abortion is legal, condoms are legal, pre-marriage sex is normal.To diss a man who's dying because of this shit is childish.
Quote from: Overseer on April 01, 2005, 03:32:35 AMyou're joking right tonio? hardcore catholics hang off everything the church says..Hardcore catholics dont have pre-marriage sex. End of the story.
Quote from: Antonio on April 01, 2005, 03:33:39 AMMauzip you are not getting the point. The Pope, from a religious and ethical point of view, doesnt like pre-marriage sex. That's not what this Pope is saying, but what every Pope in our history will repeat, because that's our religion. He said real Christians devoted to Christ should have sex only after they get married, so they shouldnt use condoms because having sex with your wife is something wonderful, normal and ethically correct. Get the point straight. He aint against condoms in general, but he's more likely against free sex and "empty" sex, pre-marriage sex, savage sex, sex with no love, etc..About abortion, once again, get your facts straight. Like i said, Pope is pro-family. After two people get married, they should have kids. So to kill them is something the Church cant accept. But you gotta start from a FAMILY prospective, cause that's the only one the Church accepts. It's pointless to say that Pope is against 15 years old girls raped who wanna abort! Pope is pro-family and pro-life, like our religion is.Then you can have sex before you get married (i did), you can use condoms to fight AIDS (i did and i do), you can consider abortion (i didnt yet), and you can even consider euthanasia. In fact, in The Netherlands where you live, euthanasia is legal, abortion is legal, condoms are legal, pre-marriage sex is normal.To diss a man who's dying because of this shit is childish.completely on point ^^^^^^^mauzip, the pope says u shouldn't use condoms bcoz the point of sex is to create life and condoms stop u from doing thatsex is not meant to just be something that is fun, it is to create life and no man should be able to choose when or not a child can be bornlife is a gift from God
Fact is that people still have sex even if they're catholic. You could deny that, but you could also be realistic... if only the pope would say it's ok to use condoms IF you're having sex...
Actually, I think the pope is responsible for a lot of deaths. I'm not calling him (indirect) a murderer though.
Quote from: Antonio on April 01, 2005, 03:34:35 AMQuote from: Overseer on April 01, 2005, 03:32:35 AMyou're joking right tonio? hardcore catholics hang off everything the church says..Hardcore catholics dont have pre-marriage sex. End of the story.Oh, and i live in Italy, where the Pope lives, and i still gotta meet one of those hardcore catholic dudes who never had sex before he got married. Or who doesnt use condoms because the Church is against them.
to be a bit more specific, its the catholic church's belief for a man/woman to not waste sperm, wether that being using a condom, pulling out early, the pill.. any form of contraception