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So by saying he's not one of the greats your defying the majority, let alone Rakim, KRS ONE, Freddie Fox, Guru, Nas and Jay-Z. They all said Eminem is one of the greatest. That shows how bias you are. Why did u focus on D12 World and Encore and not mention TSSLP or TMMLP or what he did for 8-Mile, what he did for 2001, or how he shits on Jay-Z in the song 'Renegade' ? Why not mention all the fans he's brought into on an international level because of his first two albums ? and people say that X fell off with WOMD. What Dre did for X is make him bigger than he ever was, especially with his most successfull album to date - Restless.
Quote from: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 03:24:18 PMSo by saying he's not one of the greats your defying the majority, let alone Rakim, KRS ONE, Freddie Fox, Guru, Nas and Jay-Z. They all said Eminem is one of the greatest. That shows how bias you are. Why did u focus on D12 World and Encore and not mention TSSLP or TMMLP or what he did for 8-Mile, what he did for 2001, or how he shits on Jay-Z in the song 'Renegade' ? Why not mention all the fans he's brought into on an international level because of his first two albums ? and people say that X fell off with WOMD. What Dre did for X is make him bigger than he ever was, especially with his most successfull album to date - Restless.Rakim, Kris, Freddie Fox, Guru, Nas and Jigger all said that prior to the TRASH he's released in the past few years, let us not forget. He dropped 2 good solo's, 2 HORRIBLE solos. 1 mediocre group album. 1 garbage group album. He "outshined" Jigger on one track, WOW! So, really, he's not all that great.Jigger > Em. The difference between me and you here pal is this: You follow what you hear. I hear 50 Cent is a genious, do I believe it? Nope! I don't care who says it. Restless may have sold the most out of all of X's albums, but that don't mean shit. Where did his fans go? Oh yea, they went with Dre, because they were only their for Dre. X lost a good chunk of his original Fan base with Restless and MVM, he gained it back with Weapons... Holla!
Quote from: Overseer on May 25, 2005, 03:10:22 PMQuote from: SGV on May 25, 2005, 02:42:26 PMEminem's career took a severe blow with the release of "Ass Like That." Easily, one of the worst tracks ever made. Eminem is not, never has been, nor will be, one of the greats. D-12 World, Eminem Show and Encore have all proved that. there is a reason why eminem is how he is now..he is being forced to follow a stereotype by his contract.. once he gains more freedom he will changeright now he (and dre) are forced to go and make these cheesy singles by jimmy i..eminem has himself stated that he and dre HATE making these singles but have to so the album will not get rejected again.this is why eminems albums are following a samey formula.. he's enslaved by the corporate machine.Is that a valid reason for making the ENTIRE album that way? What's a rapper without freedom of speech?Fuck that. Eminem is probably the most overrated rapper of all time. Slim Shady LP was allright. Not classic. FAR from classic. And I even like that one better than MMLP. There's no fucking way those albums are classics. Are they full of amazing songs? No way. Have they had a huge influence on most of the rap records made ever since? Not at all. If you really consider those albums classics, you may need to check out some more hiphop before judging. Even I know that, with my limited knowledge Xzibit, however... Still can come pretty strong. WOMD proved that. I don't think he ever released a wack album - worst he ever did was "allright" with MVM.
Quote from: SGV on May 25, 2005, 02:42:26 PMEminem's career took a severe blow with the release of "Ass Like That." Easily, one of the worst tracks ever made. Eminem is not, never has been, nor will be, one of the greats. D-12 World, Eminem Show and Encore have all proved that. there is a reason why eminem is how he is now..he is being forced to follow a stereotype by his contract.. once he gains more freedom he will changeright now he (and dre) are forced to go and make these cheesy singles by jimmy i..eminem has himself stated that he and dre HATE making these singles but have to so the album will not get rejected again.this is why eminems albums are following a samey formula.. he's enslaved by the corporate machine.
Eminem's career took a severe blow with the release of "Ass Like That." Easily, one of the worst tracks ever made. Eminem is not, never has been, nor will be, one of the greats. D-12 World, Eminem Show and Encore have all proved that.
TMMLP brought in people who were never into rap suddenly love rap.
Quote from: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 04:16:21 PMTMMLP brought in people who were never into rap suddenly love rap.Obviously you are one of them. Unfortunately it was not for the best.SGV is on point with his posts. Let's leave it at that.
First of all it's Jigga.. not Jigger. Second, I judge people by skill not by mass opinion. If I followed mass opinion I'd be saying 2pac & Biggie were the greatest instead of Rakim or KRS One, or I'd say that Kanye and Lil' John are the best producers instead of Dre or Primo. Also, even if they said Em was a great before Encore.. i'm just replying to people who say that he was never a great or never on top. You say that TES was wack, but are you judging that from Eminem's lyricism, or weak beats ? And you seem intent on bassing ur argument on Eminems weaker albums. That would be like me saying Jay-Z was never a great 'cause he released too may commercial bitch tracks on Vol. 3 and Dynasty... and teenie pop mtv commercial trash with Blueprint 2. C' mon, man... stop being so fuckin' bias and start thinkin' logically.Holla back !