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Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
J @ M @ L:
1. The whole point was that Palestinians have been victims to Zionism. That's a fact. Yes there are other factors which add to their condition, including their own leadership... I've always stated that Arafat was a fuck-up... but to deny that Zionism is not a factor, is just retarded.
2. The statement I made about the wall had nothing to do with you being for or against it... I was just pointing out who the brainwashed one is and to what extent... to call that a fence...
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on October 28, 2005, 03:09:11 AM ---1. The whole point was that Palestinians have been victims to Zionism. That's a fact. Yes there are other factors which add to their condition, including their own leadership... I've always stated that Arafat was a fuck-up... but to deny that Zionism is not a factor, is just retarded.
2. The statement I made about the wall had nothing to do with you being for or against it... I was just pointing out who the brainwashed one is and to what extent... to call that a fence...
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OK buddy read carefully now so you understand everything, I want you to know I mean exactly what I'm saying-
The Palestinian people ARE IN NO WAY VICTIMS OF ZIONISM- Your most notable Zionist right wing precursor wanted to embrace this population and the way things are today for the Israeli Arabs is a PROOF of his vision. LMAO try deporting one of these Israeli Arabs to the Palestinian Autonomy none of them will ever go, Israeli Arabs live tens of times better than the Palestinian population within the Palestinian Autonomy,there are many wealthy families among them, many Palestinians from within the Autonomy seek to marry girls out of Israeli Arabs' families to escape the poverty that had been stimulated within the Autonomy by Arafat and his accomplices through spending billions of dollars of support money on reinforcement of terrorist power structures, that is the same poverty that causes deep frustration within the the Palestinian population increasing its docility to manipulation by terrorist power structures- it's a WIN\WIN situation for terroristic organizations.The lack of cooperation on the part of the Palestinian government in eradication of terrorism is a direct cause to Israel's military coercion. You truly are a phenomenon man, I do not know what goes down inside of your mind, whether you really are in denial due to a nice brainwash or whether you're simply too damn ignorant to see the obvious,this is not clear to me.
I TO DA GEEZY:
When money is used for peaceful purposes the public gains however when it is used for militant purposes only certain indeviduals profit from it, both financially and in reinforcement of their position of power.
7even:
The whole idea of Israel is ridiculous.. planting an artificial state right where the "enemies" are and then slowly take their land.. don't tell me that wasn't the plan. About anyone who argues "it's our holy land, the bible says!!!11" I can only laugh, really. Im going to write a book in which it's stated that the whole world belongs to me, then go around from house to house, showing everybody my book and bulldoze their house. Everybody who fights back is a terrorist.
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: 7even the sober dude on October 28, 2005, 05:01:39 AM ---The whole idea of Israel is ridiculous.. planting an artificial state right where the "enemies" are and then slowly take their land.. don't tell me that wasn't the plan. About anyone who argues "it's our holy land, the bible says!!!11" I can only laugh, really. Im going to write a book in which it's stated that the whole world belongs to me, then go around from house to house, showing everybody my book and bulldoze their house. Everybody who fights back is a terrorist.
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First of all, these enemies you're refering to are our enemies by their own choice, this is history man.Up untill the Jews came here to gradually found their state these people were never our enemies, do I have to start over this debate?- we've covered this, ignoring facts is pointless however most of the world at those times was drenched with anti-semitism so there weren't many choices as for the geographical location of the upcoming Jewish national home.What was a not so great idea was proclaiming an arbitrary group of people as a NATION seeking for SELF-DETERMINATION only for the sake of removing an already established nation from land it was trying to regain after centuries without a national home espcially when this nation expressed its peaceful intentions and especially when this nation had been persecuted everywhere else . Second of all, according to what you're saying you must also be opposing to the existence of the US since the people who founded it despite its native population already had land, unlike Jews. This has little to do with religion but you're the one mentioning the bible, tell me, are you religious? - I believe you're not since you made the statement about writing a book about the whole world belonging to you, I mean that I hope you aren't religious otherwise this would be an empty statement.
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