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EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 01, 2005, 11:25:27 PM ---The famous Jewish philosopher Martin Buber related in his memoirs: "When Max Nordau, Herzl's second in command, first received details on the existence of an Arab population in Palestine, he came shocked to Herzl exclaiming: ‘I never realized this--we are committing an injustice.'"
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Proving my point again.
Do you see where this whole "Land with no people" thing was coming from now? Do you see now how little Herzel knew about the situation in Eretz Yisrael?
You said it yourself. Only that Zionists were already active by that time without being taught as for the "expropriation of the penniless" and without being opposed up untill after the end of WW1 and due to the influence of the Balfour Declaration.
P.S If Palestinian Arabs were so much against colonialism why didn't they proclaim their nationalism throughout the mandates? Don't you find it wierd that some have decided to oppose Zionism
when they didn't mind powerfull empires oppressing them? Don't you realize that the only chance for Palestinian Arabs to achieve national goals was the Zionist movement (they didn't even see themselves as a nation prior to Zionism)?Familiar with the term "Political hitchhiking"-What pushed them from being passive beholders at the mandates to seeking self-determination(Due to which active force?)? Do you understand now the whole- Zionism as "a companion to the Arab nationalist movement"- thing? In other words, those who chose to oppose Zionism were the ones who first used the Zionist movement to proclaim their 'national goals' and the ones that wanted to get rid of it as soon as the Zionists could obstruct the annexation of the land to the rest of the Arab world.
regimemob510:
--- Quote from: 7 on November 25, 2005, 05:48:25 AM ---niggaz be on some victim shit
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nigga who the fuck iz u???
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on December 02, 2005, 12:06:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 01, 2005, 11:25:27 PM ---The famous Jewish philosopher Martin Buber related in his memoirs: "When Max Nordau, Herzl's second in command, first received details on the existence of an Arab population in Palestine, he came shocked to Herzl exclaiming: ‘I never realized this--we are committing an injustice.'"
--- End quote ---
Proving my point again.
Do you see where this whole "Land with no people" thing was coming from now? Do you see now how little Herzel knew about the situation in Eretz Yisrael?
You said it yourself. Only that Zionists were already active by that time without being taught as for the "expropriation of the penniless" and without being opposed up untill after the end of WW1 and due to the influence of the Balfour Declaration.
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LOL. Thank you. Injustice it is. That's all I needed to hear (or not hear... since you are still too blind or dumb to see that it was and to this day is an injustice... even though Zionist leaders themselves have admitted that it is).
I TO DA GEEZY:
lol... I feel real bad doing this to you but you need to see this:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 01, 2005, 11:25:27 PM ---"When Max Nordau, Herzl's second in command, first received details on the existence of an Arab population in Palestine, he came shocked to Herzl exclaiming: ‘I never realized this--we are committing an injustice.'"
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NEXT TO:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on November 27, 2005, 01:48:34 PM ---Brainwashed? Coming from the guy who said that the "Land without a People for a People without a Land" was truly believed... LMAO.
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So if he first found out there was an Arab population was it("Land without a people...") or was it not truly believed?
J @ M @ L:
LOL.. you fall into traps too easily...
do some research on Israel Zangwill. :)
hint: google his name along with the phrase "land without people for a people without a land"
Then look into....
Achad Ha-Am:
"Abroad we are accustomed to believe that Israel is almost empty;
nothing is grown here and that whoever wishes to buy land could come here and
buy what his heart desires. In reality, the situation is not like this.
Throughout the country it is difficult to find cultivable land which is not
already cultivated."
... and check what year that was...
You just proved my point... supporters of Zionism were used to propaganda... even Herzl.. surprise surprise.. some things don't change. :)
At least they were later able to admit that it was an injustice.. it's the descendants of European colonialists today who won't...
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