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Quote from: JpM on December 10, 2005, 08:44:57 PMhow the fuck can you say hes responsable for all gang violence... i mean .. i guess i want him dead too. but hes definitely not responsable for all gang violence, its not like hes the creator of gangs there were other gangs before... there as been other after ... he killed 4 ppl yes but even tho he started a gang or not that doesnt change anything, every gang member is as much involved as him. stop sayin hes responsible for everything. He created the Crips which resulted in the Bloods and now its all over the country with hunderds of different sets and lil kids thinking they cool reping them and real muthaphuckas killin people....Thousands of people have died over gang relatated shit made by him....The only good think he has done is influence Gangsta Rap but then that resulted in people thinking there gangstas and shitty rappers...
how the fuck can you say hes responsable for all gang violence... i mean .. i guess i want him dead too. but hes definitely not responsable for all gang violence, its not like hes the creator of gangs there were other gangs before... there as been other after ... he killed 4 ppl yes but even tho he started a gang or not that doesnt change anything, every gang member is as much involved as him. stop sayin hes responsible for everything.
Afraid of what? The fucking guy is on death row. It's not like he'll be let out if he rats and have to fend for himself on the streets. Plus there's always witness protection, Sammy the Bull Gravano ratted on John fucking Gotti and he went with out being killed.
Quote from: Shallow on December 10, 2005, 08:22:45 PMAfraid of what? The fucking guy is on death row. It's not like he'll be let out if he rats and have to fend for himself on the streets. Plus there's always witness protection, Sammy the Bull Gravano ratted on John fucking Gotti and he went with out being killed.As I've said before, people have tried to kill him even on death row, so yes, he will have to fend for himself (not on the streets, but certainly in the showers or whatnot). Has he been offered protection, anyway?
Quote from: Eihtball on December 11, 2005, 07:19:42 AMQuote from: Shallow on December 10, 2005, 08:22:45 PMAfraid of what? The fucking guy is on death row. It's not like he'll be let out if he rats and have to fend for himself on the streets. Plus there's always witness protection, Sammy the Bull Gravano ratted on John fucking Gotti and he went with out being killed.As I've said before, people have tried to kill him even on death row, so yes, he will have to fend for himself (not on the streets, but certainly in the showers or whatnot). Has he been offered protection, anyway?you know he ain't gonna snitch.My point is that he's dead anyway. And if he has valid info then the'd get protection.
My point is that he's dead anyway. And if he has valid info then the'd get protection.
Quote from: Shallow on December 11, 2005, 07:26:54 AMMy point is that he's dead anyway. And if he has valid info then the'd get protection.What kind of protection can they offer him in San Quentin, anyway? Witness protection doesn't work that way.And yeah, you're right he's dead anyway, but perhaps he'd prefer to exhaust his other options first (i.e. see if he can get clemency) before resorting to snitching.
Quote from: Eihtball on December 11, 2005, 03:03:49 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 11, 2005, 07:26:54 AMMy point is that he's dead anyway. And if he has valid info then the'd get protection.What kind of protection can they offer him in San Quentin, anyway? Witness protection doesn't work that way.And yeah, you're right he's dead anyway, but perhaps he'd prefer to exhaust his other options first (i.e. see if he can get clemency) before resorting to snitching.It's not "resorting" it's doing what he can to clean up the streets. He's claimed many times that he is not afraid to die. If I were on death row and had info that could make a huge impact on cleaning the streets (if he has that info) then I would "snitch" in a heart beat. And they have special cells and could even relocate him. You know how many guys would like to get their hands on someone like Charles Manson? He's been protected.
Quote from: Ozir on December 10, 2005, 09:45:17 PMhttp://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions.phpCheck out the discrepancy between the number of black people being executed for commiting a crime against a white person(s) and vice versa.Fuck the death penalty! White people rarely kill black people.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions.phpCheck out the discrepancy between the number of black people being executed for commiting a crime against a white person(s) and vice versa.Fuck the death penalty!
Quote from: Mr. Brown on December 09, 2005, 05:27:59 PMi don't believe he should be put to death, it's obvious, from what i've seen at least, that he's been rehabilitated. Putting him to death would do nothing but fuck up the justice system, it'd be sending the wrong message. however i'm NOT saying that we should not have a death penalty, i think the death penalty should be reserved for those crazy dude who commit numerous murders and are PROUD of it, i've heard stories from death row about dudes who sit there and say shit "i'm proud i killed a mother and her child, and if i'm ever released or escaped i'd kill YOUR wife and kids" those guys should be "put to sleep". but i don't think Tookie is in that extreme of a circumstance, grant him clemecy and let him do more possitive things behind the bars that he earned to be behind.How is he rehabilitated when he wont even accept admit that he was the killer and express remorse? How is he rehabilitated when he won't act as an informant and work with police to take down other gang members?Don't fall for the act, man.
i don't believe he should be put to death, it's obvious, from what i've seen at least, that he's been rehabilitated. Putting him to death would do nothing but fuck up the justice system, it'd be sending the wrong message. however i'm NOT saying that we should not have a death penalty, i think the death penalty should be reserved for those crazy dude who commit numerous murders and are PROUD of it, i've heard stories from death row about dudes who sit there and say shit "i'm proud i killed a mother and her child, and if i'm ever released or escaped i'd kill YOUR wife and kids" those guys should be "put to sleep". but i don't think Tookie is in that extreme of a circumstance, grant him clemecy and let him do more possitive things behind the bars that he earned to be behind.
Quote from: Shallow on December 11, 2005, 03:58:39 PMQuote from: Eihtball on December 11, 2005, 03:03:49 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 11, 2005, 07:26:54 AMMy point is that he's dead anyway. And if he has valid info then the'd get protection.What kind of protection can they offer him in San Quentin, anyway? Witness protection doesn't work that way.And yeah, you're right he's dead anyway, but perhaps he'd prefer to exhaust his other options first (i.e. see if he can get clemency) before resorting to snitching.It's not "resorting" it's doing what he can to clean up the streets. He's claimed many times that he is not afraid to die. If I were on death row and had info that could make a huge impact on cleaning the streets (if he has that info) then I would "snitch" in a heart beat. And they have special cells and could even relocate him. You know how many guys would like to get their hands on someone like Charles Manson? He's been protected.The reason Tookie won't snitch is because he would lose his credibillity with the youth and wouldnt be able to broker peace treatys with the gangs.
Am I the only who doesn't get the concept how writing children's books should give you strong benefits law-wise?