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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: Sccit on April 29, 2021, 05:09:06 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6QPYh9cpbyY&feature=emb_title
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Quik has a shitty attitude. If that shit meant that much to u you should’ve been on it when those albums came out. Smh
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Quik has a shitty attitude. If that shit meant that much to u you should’ve been on it when those albums came out. Smh
that’s who he .. that petty flamboyance is lowkey a part of what make him great. a lot of goats move like that .. prince, michael, mercury......gota let em do them, can’t put that flame out n hinder the brilliance that comes along wit some extra.
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I’m a huge fan of Quiks music but dude needs to stop living in the past. Release some new shit and become a king on your own. I know he’s got the talent and the music in the vault right now to release a record bigger than Detox. But as of now seems like he’s going down in history as someone who has lost all faith in his skills and is too worried about tarnishing his legacy to release anything new. He’s on here complaining about songs that are 25+ years old? Come on now.
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Quik has always had a petty streak, which has probably prevented him from his full potential. I remember him going off on 2nd II None because they passed on the Heartz of Men beat. WTF, 2Pac killed that beat.
He admitted that he dissed Dre on U Ain't Fresh, because he thought Dre was dissing him on What's the Difference, even though it was clear that he wasn't.
It seemed like he was always beefin with his own crew, preventing them from releasing more music.
The guy was a musical genius back in the day. I guess he is just trying to stay relevant.
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I’m a huge fan of Quiks music but dude needs to stop living in the past. Release some new shit and become a king on your own. I know he’s got the talent and the music in the vault right now to release a record bigger than Detox. But as of now seems like he’s going down in history as someone who has lost all faith in his skills and is too worried about tarnishing his legacy to release anything new. He’s on here complaining about songs that are 25+ years old? Come on now.
If Quik burning cheques I don't think he's worried bout much to be honest
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I'm sorry, but I don't feel bad for Quik. He's been in the music industry a long time. If he really did contribute to all those projects and artists that he mentioned, then he should've known better and should've had his lawyer review all the paperwork before doing business.
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If Quik burning cheques I don't think he's worried bout much to be honest
I’m surprised you even kno who Quik is cac beezy
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Y'all sound like bums. Give that man his credit & money, which he deserves.
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I’m surprised you even kno who Quik is cac beezy
shes a big west coast head
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I'm not taking anything away from Quik, because he's a legend, but like Dr. Dre used to say. If you believe you were responsible for all these classic hit songs, then make them again. You say you did All Eyez on Me? Then make another All Eyez On Me.
Quik is a fantastic musician, no doubt, but he does his best work when someone is handling the business side of things, like Suge Knight, or Arista, or Profile or Dr Dre. Or producing for other people. Someone telling him he has a deadline, this song has to be put out. When left to his on vices to release something independently, or trying to start up a project on his own, he fails big time. Not in a music sense, but in a business sense. I remember him saying Arista rushed him to release Balance and Options and he wasn't happy with it. He'd probably still be working on that album to this day if they hadn't have done that. It takes more to be a successful artist than just making good songs.
Shawn Anthony, Amir, Gift Reynolds, DJ Blake III, etc. Every album he has some new protege being forced down our throats and us being Quik fans, give them a chance, and in 6 months, the new artist is an afterthought. So many shelved projects, I can't even name them all. He's always beefing with his old crew, then a few months later they are best friends again. Dissed the Game on Book of David, then he's on Game's next album.
We give Snoop crap for releasing a bunch of garbage, but we can still pick out a handful of good songs from each project. I think i'd rather have that, than someone like Quik who won't release anything because he can't ever get it 'perfect' enough.
It's tough being a Quik fan at times.
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wow. very sad for him. if you are a king, a legend, a LORd? act like one. you cant cry like a baby if you claim that you are the best ever.
he said before he brought drum kits to dre for "in da club" and "if i can't". so what? does it mean you are going to take credit for the production? that's silly.
quik never became mainstream. i know we all think he deserved better with his musical abilities but he couldnt get it. so he needs to ask himself why before blaming others for credits that he couldnt get.
a few weeks ago he also called himself "2nd most important arcitecht of west coast hip-hop". let people decide it. battlecat is also very fucking underrated producer but i never see him crying. however i had chance to talk to many music producers from all around the world from different kind of genres trough social media and im so surprised that a lot professional musicians and producers are battlecat fans.
whats wrong with quik nowadays? did he lost money and in a fucked up situation or he got old and grumpy?
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188 dollars royalty check though ??
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I’ll give him this. It is pretty fuckin crazy of Kendrick to not credit Quik on king Kunte
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I’ll give him this. It is pretty fuckin crazy of Kendrick to not credit Quik on king Kunte
Does anyone know if that is even true? Itunes lists David Blake as a writer, wikipedia states they used the Suga Free sample and credits Quik. Isn't that pretty standard for using a sample. The label has to clear it before use and the credits are worked out between the parties. His complaints regarding Kendrick are bizarre. How else does Kendrick or TDE credit him?
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Does anyone know if that is even true? Itunes lists David Blake as a writer, wikipedia states they used the Suga Free sample and credits Quik. Isn't that pretty standard for using a sample. The label has to clear it before use and the credits are worked out between the parties. His complaints regarding Kendrick are bizarre. How else does Kendrick or TDE credit him?
Exactly right. It’s in the liner notes of King Kunta. Proper crediting of sampling Get Nekkid, produced by Quik. Not sure what more he wants either in that case.
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I’ll give him this. It is pretty fuckin crazy of Kendrick to not credit Quik on king Kunte
David Blake is the first composer mentioned? https://www.allmusic.com/song/king-kunta-mt0051916558
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Oh I wasn’t aware of that. Good lookin on the info boys. Quik trippin again
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I’m surprised you even kno who Quik is cac beezy
What?
Like you know who you talking to huh?
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Oh I wasn’t aware of that. Good lookin on the info boys. Quik trippin again
I never had a man suck my dick before either but I'll make an exception for you 😉
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i don’t think he’s talkin bout credit as much as he is bout money
he prolly wasn’t compensated for that work the way he most likely deserved to be
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i don’t think he’s talkin bout credit as much as he is bout money
he prolly wasn’t compensated for that work the way he most likely deserved to be
That makes Quik look worse. The samples were cleared, so someone was paid.
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What?
Like you know who you talking to huh?
I know who you are
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I know who you are
Was that you that followed me on insta?
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Was that you that followed me on insta?
Doc Doggy baby!
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The King Kunta complain makes no sense at all, he's always been credited... ok they sampled your song, and then? Quik sampled hundreds of songs but I don't think Roger Troutman, George Clinton, etc. ever complained or asked him anything.
If he wants to be relevant again he needs to release some quality (and let me say commercial appealing) music.
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before he said in an interview that pharrel ripped his line from get nekkid for "hot in here" song but he is ok with it and feel honored with it and never thought to sue him.
today he says "i want my fucking credit for hot in here"
shame.
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Quik ain't wrong for this . Y'all always on his ass too when he calls out the industry. Give the man the same respect you give Dre
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Quik always does this shit.. I remember the POWER106 concert I was at with Sccit, Doggy, Roccy... he spent his whole performance talking shit to the soundman (his sound was the same as the other artists) and bitching about not getting his due in the industry, etc.
He has a case, but I don't understand why this happens to him? Like the whole time he was at Death Row you almost didn't even know he was there, other than two tracks. The "Dollars and Sense" track and "Heartz of Men" on All Eyez on me. And they were just good songs on great albums and people liked those songs but weren't talked about much. It was just like Quik was doing a song for them like a lot of artists contribute songs to soundtracks. You never heard him talked about at Death Row. They were promoting a lot of lesser artists I mean you knew Lady of Rage was over at Death Row but you never knew Quik was with them until after the fact. And I've been following everything on that Dogg Food album since before it even came out and I only heard just this year that Quik put in work on that album. What did he do? What's the story on that? Maybe he needs to get out there more on interviews and explain a lot of this.
What's the story with those other tracks he mentioned? Something isn't right that this keeps happening to Quik
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Quik always does this shit.. I remember the POWER106 concert I was at with Sccit, Doggy, Roccy... he spent his whole performance talking shit to the soundman (his sound was the same as the other artists) and bitching about not getting his due in the industry, etc.
He has a case, but I don't understand why this happens to him? Like the whole time he was at Death Row you almost didn't even know he was there, other than two tracks. The "Dollars and Sense" track and "Heartz of Men" on All Eyez on me. And they were just good songs on great albums and people liked those songs but weren't talked about much. It was just like Quik was doing a song for them like a lot of artists contribute songs to soundtracks. You never heard him talked about at Death Row. They were promoting a lot of lesser artists I mean you knew Lady of Rage was over at Death Row but you never knew Quik was with them until after the fact. And I've been following everything on that Dogg Food album since before it even came out and I only heard just this year that Quik put in work on that album. What did he do? What's the story on that? Maybe he needs to get out there more on interviews and explain a lot of this.
What's the story with those other tracks he mentioned? Something isn't right that this keeps happening to Quik
I remember reading that part of it was because he was never officially signed to Death Row, he signed some producer contract as D. Blake or something to skirt the legality since he already had a performer contract with Profile. I think he was doing a lot of stuff for Death Row under the table and getting paid under the table and as a result, Death Row couldn't legally credit him for the stuff he was doing because he'd be breaking his current contract with Profile. He was using studio time paid for by Profile to work on stuff for Death Row, which i know isn't that unusual to use studio time to work on other projects, but still. Quik had this arrangement and at the time it benefitted him because he was getting double paid. Now 25 years later, after these songs blew up, he realized he should've went at it in a different way. You think if these songs never blew up, he'd be whining that he wasn't getting credit? No....he realized he shot himself in the foot and is now trying to get his just due. I don't fault the man for wanting his credit, but he did it in a sneaky way and now it's coming back to haunt him.
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I remember reading that part of it was because he was never officially signed to Death Row, he signed some producer contract as D. Blake or something to skirt the legality since he already had a performer contract with Profile. I think he was doing a lot of stuff for Death Row under the table and getting paid under the table and as a result, Death Row couldn't legally credit him for the stuff he was doing because he'd be breaking his current contract with Profile. He was using studio time paid for by Profile to work on stuff for Death Row, which i know isn't that unusual to use studio time to work on other projects, but still. Quik had this arrangement and at the time it benefitted him because he was getting double paid. Now 25 years later, after these songs blew up, he realized he should've went at it in a different way. You think if these songs never blew up, he'd be whining that he wasn't getting credit? No....he realized he shot himself in the foot and is now trying to get his just due. I don't fault the man for wanting his credit, but he did it in a sneaky way and now it's coming back to haunt him.
Yeah this is exactly the way I remember hearing about it some years back like around the West Resurgence era period of 99-2002. You started hearing how Quik was at Death Row cause he had a relationship with Suge and they were both Bloods and so they could just do cash deals with each other as homies and what not.
When All Eyez On Me dropped I remember looking thru the liner notes and seeing David Blake and kind of knowing that was Quik.. but it was clear there was some effort made back then to downplay Quik's role at Death Row. Likely because of the contractual issue mentioned above, like we said. So now, all these years later when that work has stood the test of time, now Quik wants to rewrite those contracts from back in the day. It doesn't really work like that.
I don't blame Quik for wanting his props because even I want to know a lot more about his work on records like Dogg Food. He certainly deserves props if he contributed on a record like that and we are only finding out all these years later.
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Quik ain't wrong for this . Y'all always on his ass too when he calls out the industry. Give the man the same respect you give Dre
Quik is wrong for this
Literally burning money
Like....
He couldn't think of a charity that's deserving of the funds?
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Quik ain't wrong for this . Y'all always on his ass too when he calls out the industry. Give the man the same respect you give Dre
he is not dre. so he cant get the same respect.
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damizza told that quik mixed "lights out" track of Westside Connection. he just calles quik and tells that he produced a track for westside connection and needs quik to mix it. quik says come home now. damizza goes, quik mixes it in 15 mins and give master cd to damizza. thats the story.
quik is very amteur when it comes to handle the business part. maybe i can also call naive. but come on u are a grown up man. you cant blame anybody. if you handle it in very amateur way, thats what you get today.
you guys here told that he got his credit under the table on death row because he had that kind of deal with suge knight.
thats why warren-g didnt sing with death row and wait for a good record deal and he got it finally from def jam.
if i were quik, i'd say "fuck your royality check deathrow, you cant value my work, its priceless, i did everything for music, fans, friends and history"... then it makes sense.
but if he bitching and crying about some money which i honestly think he doesnt deserve because of the way he handled the business part, it doesnt make sense to me.
and some guys here he deserves same respect that dre gets. no he can't get it.
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I knew Quik had something to do with King Kunta... I could literally hear it. So obvious. Quik and Suga Free are all over that.
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I knew Quik had something to do with King Kunta... I could literally hear it. So obvious. Quik and Suga Free are all over that.
Quik had nothin' to do with it. "King Kunta" samples Mausberg's "Get Nekkid".
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6QPYh9cpbyY&feature=emb_title
Go get your money, Quik
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Quik had nothin' to do with it. "King Kunta" samples Mausberg's "Get Nekkid".
Right... but who produced Get Nekkid?
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Right... but who produced Get Nekkid?
thats called sampling. and its written in credits on booklet.
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thats called sampling. and its written in credits on booklet.
Isn't sampling a part of producing?
My point here is that Quik did in fact have something to do with King Kunta if that song was inspired by Get Nekkid, which was produced by DJ Quik. If A = B and B = C then A = C. That's all I'm saying.
Also, Suga Free was clearly the inspiration behind Kendrick's flow on the song as well. Free spoke on that during a Vlad interview where he said, "I heard myself." None of this meant to knock Kendrick, it's just interesting to see how people reinvent beats and rhymes.
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I hope in the coming decade Quik will start focusing on producing for other people more. He's around the same age Quincy Jones was when he did Thriller so who knows what could happen with a little bit more focus.
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So is that Hot in Herre claim only about the lyrics? "Take your clothes off" vs "So take off all your clothes". That to me is reaching I don't hear any similarities in the beats, matter of fact that is PRIME Neptunes that beat is low key genius they knew how to make hits back then.
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Isn't sampling a part of producing?
My point here is that Quik did in fact have something to do with King Kunta if that song was inspired by Get Nekkid, which was produced by DJ Quik. If A = B and B = C then A = C. That's all I'm saying.
Also, Suga Free was clearly the inspiration behind Kendrick's flow on the song as well. Free spoke on that during a Vlad interview where he said, "I heard myself." None of this meant to knock Kendrick, it's just interesting to see how people reinvent beats and rhymes.
I agree, his beat was sampled and properly credited. So i don't know what more Quik wants, like every time Kendrick does an interview, he's supposed to break down and start kissing his ass and say he'd be nothing without Quik allowing him to sample his beat?
Quik is a legend, and most people who know hip hop realize that. He's never going to break into mainstream, but even Dr. Dre isn't very mainstream anymore. His obsession with wanting to be like Dre is getting old, just be yourself.
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Isn't sampling a part of producing?
My point here is that Quik did in fact have something to do with King Kunta if that song was inspired by Get Nekkid, which was produced by DJ Quik. If A = B and B = C then A = C. That's all I'm saying.
Also, Suga Free was clearly the inspiration behind Kendrick's flow on the song as well. Free spoke on that during a Vlad interview where he said, "I heard myself." None of this meant to knock Kendrick, it's just interesting to see how people reinvent beats and rhymes.
sampling is a part of producing, but, for only for producer who samples. that doesnt make the owner of sample a co producer for that song.
do you remember addictive song of truth hurts which is produced by dj quik? did you see any sample credits on it? do you remember the trial which cost a lot to both truth hurts and aftermath.
did you buy any dj quik album? check the booklets and see if there is any co producer written because of the sample he used.
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I agree, his beat was sampled and properly credited. So i don't know what more Quik wants, like every time Kendrick does an interview, he's supposed to break down and start kissing his ass and say he'd be nothing without Quik allowing him to sample his beat?
Quik is a legend, and most people who know hip hop realize that. He's never going to break into mainstream, but even Dr. Dre isn't very mainstream anymore. His obsession with wanting to be like Dre is getting old, just be yourself.
word. i sign that line. "he's never going to break into mainstream".
today we clearly see why he never became mainstream, because he sucks in business part of this industry.
however he created his own sub genre in west coast hip hop with specific sounds which belongs to him and he always produced for that sub genre and that made him a local artist for west coast hip hop.
dre knows music business, entertaintment world and how to manage whole shit. also dre always tries to break his shell when he thinks he doesnt sound interesting anymore. he even tryed it with "compton" album, he couldnt succeed but he tried.
Dre doesnt have an obsession to be mainstream as an artist anymore. because he's been there and done that many times. even if he is retired tomorrow and dont produce anymore, he is still a fucking legend. a mainstream legend for whole wide world. by the way he just executive produced eminem's two albums which are ver very succesfull and dre has lots of production there. as a producer he is still mainstream. he is executive producing artists like eminem, kendrick and paak. if he drops a solo album like we all expected, then we can talk about if he stays mainstream or not as an artist.
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Isn't sampling a part of producing?
My point here is that Quik did in fact have something to do with King Kunta if that song was inspired by Get Nekkid, which was produced by DJ Quik. If A = B and B = C then A = C. That's all I'm saying.
Also, Suga Free was clearly the inspiration behind Kendrick's flow on the song as well. Free spoke on that during a Vlad interview where he said, "I heard myself." None of this meant to knock Kendrick, it's just interesting to see how people reinvent beats and rhymes.
I'm not sure if you wanna go down this road. Do you feel the songs Quik sampled from old songs are not produced by him?
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I was gonna say, for everyone Quik ever sampled, i hope he treats them the same way he thinks Kendrick should be treating him. I know him and Dre were sued and lost because he didn’t properly credit his sample for the Addictive beat, he was accused of basically stealing the sample. At least Kendrick properly credited Quik. So sounds a little hypocritical to me.
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sampling is a part of producing, but, for only for producer who samples. that doesnt make the owner of sample a co producer for that song.
do you remember addictive song of truth hurts which is produced by dj quik? did you see any sample credits on it? do you remember the trial which cost a lot to both truth hurts and aftermath.
did you buy any dj quik album? check the booklets and see if there is any co producer written because of the sample he used.
It doesn't appear I'm being properly understood.
This whole conversation began because someone said Quik had nothing to do with King Kunta. My position is that he did, specifically because the beat was sampled from one that Quik produced: Get Nekkid. Therefore Quik had something to do with King Kunta by default.
To address your comments: samples have to be cleared and listed in credits by law. So yeah, I've seen plenty of that in song credits over the years from Quik and many other producers. As far as asking if I've ever bought a DJ Quik album - I'm glad you have a sense of humor haha.
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I'm not sure if you wanna go down this road. Do you feel the songs Quik sampled from old songs are not produced by him?
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking but sampling is a part of song production by definition. Producers do it all the time as we all know. Sampling doesn't make you less of a producer. If you use a sample as part of producing a song, it's obviously your song. Original samples from original artists are noted. Does that clarify?
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I'm not entirely sure what you're asking but sampling is a part of song production by definition. Producers do it all the time as we all know. Sampling doesn't make you less of a producer. If you use a sample as part of producing a song, it's obviously your song. Original samples from original artists are noted. Does that clarify?
wish i'd do smth else instead reading this. (
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It doesn't appear I'm being properly understood.
This whole conversation began because someone said Quik had nothing to do with King Kunta. My position is that he did, specifically because the beat was sampled from one that Quik produced: Get Nekkid. Therefore Quik had something to do with King Kunta by default.
To address your comments: samples have to be cleared and listed in credits by law. So yeah, I've seen plenty of that in song credits over the years from Quik and many other producers. As far as asking if I've ever bought a DJ Quik album - I'm glad you have a sense of humor haha.
There is absolutely no dispute over whether or not Quik had anything to do with King Kunta. He is a created writer and the sample was cleared and credited. I think most of the posters were commenting about him making it sound like he wasn't properly credited for it, which he was.
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https://youtu.be/tBSxfy-FL60
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I’m glad Quik is in a much better mental state. I remember the homie 3rdcoast would post a lot about him. He shared how Quik was incredibly talented but deeply troubled.
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https://youtu.be/zTlqCvWraG4
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I'm a huge Quik fan, and usually I ignore an artist's personal drama, but this one caught my eye. It's too bad if he's not getting properly paid, but some of the stuff he complains about seems like a reach. But we all have those down moments and thankfully, most of us don't have a platform big enough to post it and have it cause some drama.
All that being said, it amazes me that Daz had his business together more than Quik did. Daz somehow made sure his business was in line and apparently gets big royalty checks to this day when his Death Row stuff shows up in movies and so on, and I believe he even sued at one point to ensure his business was straight.
That's another thing, streaming royalties aren't shit generally speaking, but if "Heartz of Men," "Late Night," or "Dollars and Sense" got a movie placement, Quik's Death Row royalty checks would likely be much bigger even with the bad business deals he had. "What Would U Do" showed up in the NWA movie and I believe another big film, which was around the time Daz was posting up big royalty checks.