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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Antonio_ on July 13, 2006, 05:20:23 AM
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I'm talking about Zidane.
Materazzi lost his mother when he was 10. She died, and he grew up without a mother. So he knows how hard it is to have a mother in Hospital, and he knows how hard it is to be called a "son of a bitch". Nobody cares about him. In our stadium, every sunday you can hear fans saying "Materazzi son of a bitch". Every fucking game. But Materazzi doesn't react like Zidane. Yes he makes stupid takles and shit, but it's because he ain't a good player, and he's just so tall and he lacks concentration and coordination. So he's a man enought to accept the "son of a bitch" type of insult, cause he knows he's a football player, a pro, and he has to accept it. In an interview on Gazzetta dello Sport, he said he didn't use the word "terrorist", cause he ain't intelligent enought to link that word to Zidane's rooth (he doesn't even know Algeria has terrorists). He admitted it. Plus he sweared on his dead mother that he never named Zidane's mother. Not only once. He admitted he dissed Zidane's family, he admitted it was a mistake, but he never used the words "terrorist" and "mother". So all the shit the media all around the world said about Materazzi was wrong. And even Zidane's interview had a lie. I'm sure he dissed his sister, maybe his wife. But it happens everytimes, on the pitch. Defenders use all those kind of things to make other people crazy. It's not only Materazzi, it's everybody who does it. And they call Materazzi a "son of a bitch" too, on the pitch. That's legal. The illegal thing is to react the way Zidane did.
Zidane lied about Materazzi dissing his mother.
Plus i've heard some reactions from French guys who made me :o
Gallas said he wanted to kill Materazzi and to punch him in his head. When he was asked why he said "cause he dissed Zidane". But then he added: "Zidane didn't tell us what Materazzi said". LMAO. What?
Not to talk about Zidane's mother. She said: "If Materazzi dissed me i want his balls on a plate", and he dissed him so hard that it's really hard to believe an old woman can use those kind of words. She said it.
That's why i think we're totally inverting the truth.
Materazzi provoked Zidane. It's a fucked up thing, non-sportal, he lacked fair play, and he tried to make Zidane nervous.
But Zidane did the real only big mistake, by hitting Materazzi (who was not ready to be hit) with a header (wow! that's gangsta!) on his chest.
And he did another big mistake on the pitch because, instead of walk away from the pitch like he should have done, he was dissing the ref too, saying he didn't touch Materazzi, and that it was Materazzi who started it.
Like a lil bitch.
I know for some of you guys (ex. french guys) it's impossible to believe Zidane can do this shit, but he can.
Back when he was a Juventus player, Zidane hitted a German player on his head with a header.
Look.
(http://www.repubblica.it/2006/07/speciale/mondiali/gallerie/zidane-espulso/zidane-precedenti/storico19059971007112036_big.jpg) (http://www.repubblica.it/2006/07/speciale/mondiali/gallerie/zidane-espulso/zidane-precedenti/storico19092481007112029_big.jpg)
UEFA gave him a 5 games ban. He didn't even apologize, and he said he should have done the same. WOW!
Do Zidane talks German? No, cause the player he hitted didn't talk french or italian, that's for sure..
Plus in 1998, i don't have a pic of it, France was winning 5-0 vs Saudi Arabia. When Zidane litterally walked over an Arabian player who was lying on the pitch after a foul. FIFA banned him for 2 games, if i remember it well. Do Zidane understand Arabian?
Now Materazzi.
It's just fucked up that it happened in a WC Final.
And it's just fucked up that it was Materazzi to provoke him.
But Zidane is used to this shit (14 red cards in his career. More than Materazzi, lol). And he did a mistake. End of the story.
P.S.
In the interview he said he ain't regretting his decision to hit Materazzi. But still he doesn't want to say what Materazzi told him. Probably cause it's bullshit.
FUCK YOU, ZIDANE.
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Give it a rest allready!
we won't stop hating on marco.
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Fuck man, how do YOU know it was "son of a bithc" 200% ?
So, just becuase Materazzi sweared he didnt say those things doesnt mean shit. People do that all the time. Last month I swore to my mother Ill never get drunk as fuck again, not remembering shit. Do you think Ill stop it ? Hell nah :D
And just becuase Materazzi said hes too stupid to know what a terrorist is we should all belive him ? Fuck that.
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Give it a rest allready!
we won't stop hating on marco.
I hate him to death too, more than you. But that wasn't the point of the topic. I just wanted to make things clear.
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Fuck man, how do YOU know it was "son of a bithc" 200% ?
So, just becuase Materazzi sweared he didnt say those things doesnt mean shit. People do that all the time. Last month I swore to my mother Ill never get drunk as fuck again, not remembering shit. Do you think Ill stop it ? Hell nah :D
Is your mother dead? Plus it's the word of a man who's swearing on his dead mother against the word of a man who doesn't even want to reveal what Materazzi said and who want us to accept his header without a reason just because he's Zidane. Fuck that.
And just becuase Materazzi said hes too stupid to know what a terrorist is we should all belive him ? Fuck that.
No. It was The Guardian who said Materazzi called Zidane a terrorist. Then he said he didnt, the very next day, cause they didn't have proofs. Plus all the experts who have read Materazzi's lips never found the word "terrorist". It was just a lie invented by The Guardian, who already apologized.
What can a man say so HORRIBLE to justify a header like that?
He didnt diss his mother who was in Hospital.
He didn't call him or his teammates terrorists.
He dissed members of his family, but not directly (knowing them).
To me there's nothing who can justify it.
Even if he said "your wife is a whore"
Even if he said "your sister is a bitch"
Even if he said "fuck you bitch"
Even if he said".....
It's not a justification, cause things like that happens like everytime, on a pitch. It was nothing personal. It was just a provokation.
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I still think it was something nasty. 10 mins before the end of his carrer, the final of the world cup and Zidane reacts like an animal. I know it happened before but Ive never seen him THAT pissed.
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I still think it was something nasty. 10 mins before the end of his carrer, the final of the world cup and Zidane reacts like an animal. I know it happened before but Ive never seen him THAT pissed.
Not a good defence. You're just refusing to accept it.
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At the end of the day, Materazzi provoked him, smth that players do to each other all over planet earth, yes, it's not fair play, but I'm sure it's happened to Zidane alot of times in his career.
End of the day Zidane made a big error, he lost his cool when he should of ignored it, and there's no defence for him.
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I still think it was something nasty. 10 mins before the end of his carrer, the final of the world cup and Zidane reacts like an animal. I know it happened before but Ive never seen him THAT pissed.
Not a good defence. You're just refusing to accept it.
Same can be said about you. YOur biased as hell which is of course normal.
Youre talking about how its 100% that Zidane is lying and Materrazi is speaking the absolute truth.
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Only 2 people know what was said, Zidane & Materazzi so STFU and stop acting like you KNOW shit that you don't.
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I still think it was something nasty. 10 mins before the end of his carrer, the final of the world cup and Zidane reacts like an animal. I know it happened before but Ive never seen him THAT pissed.
Not a good defence. You're just refusing to accept it.
Same can be said about you. YOur biased as hell which is of course normal.
Youre talking about how its 100% that Zidane is lying and Materrazi is speaking the absolute truth.
No, no. I'm not saying that. Materazzi himself said he dissed Zidane's family (but not his mother, who was the only one in an emotional situation who could have made Zidane react that way), and he apologized. So Materazzi started it. If you wanna know what Materazzi said he said that he was pulling Zidane's shirt, and Zidane said something like "I'll give you the t-shirt at the end of the match", in an arrogant way. So Materazzi started to diss him (in Italy we diss family too. But i think it's like that everywhere. If you wanna diss someone you can diss his sister, his wife, his mother, his dog, whatever.... But you ain't really dissing them, you're dissing the one your talking to. You know what i mean? If i call you a son of a bitch i'm dissing you, not your mother). He wasn't even talking to him face to face. Zidane all of a sudden, without even saying something like "what you said about my sister(/wife/mama/whatever)?" reacted with the header. All of a sudden. So Materazzi took an offence from Zidane and provoked him. Zidane reacted. I understand both things are wrong, but to talk shit on someone is LEGAL, to hurt him with a header is ILLEGAL. End of the story. Materazzi did a mistake too (even if he didn't name his mother or the word terrorist, which is sure for the reasons i wrote), but it was Zidane's fault that he got sent off. Only his fault. Cause he had to control himself.
And i'm not really biased. I'm the n.1 Materazzi hater on the planet (we've talked about him in a couple of topics too, do you remember it? When i wrote it's a scandal he was never been sent off in Inter), and Zizou is my all time fav player (i've written it a lot of times too, plus he's a Juve legend). But i'm hating all the shit people is writing to justify something that, in my eyes, is clear: Zizou did a mistake.
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Only 2 people know what was said, Zidane & Materazzi so STFU and stop acting like you KNOW shit that you don't.
Hey i was just reporting Materazzi's version of the story. I know you all don't care, but - FLASH - it's the only one we have.
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Yeah OK you did that fair enough. But just bcoz Materazzi said something doesn't make it true.
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Yeah OK you did that fair enough. But just bcoz Materazzi said something doesn't make it true.
No. But at the moment we have Materazzi who sweared on her dead mother he ain't the kind of guy to diss a mother, for this reason, and that he didnt name her.
And on the other side we have Zidane who's saying he did, but he's refusing to give more details about it and he just want us to accept it without clarifying it.
I don't know the truth, but i believe a man in Materazzi's position more.
(i already explained the rumors about the word "terrorists" are 100% fake)
Plus even if he said "son of a bitch" or "you mother is a bitch", it doesnt even change things. I can undertand Zidane being pissed off, since his mother was at the Hospital (but for damn sure Materazzi didn't know it), but it's still his fault if he got sent off.
MATERAZZI lost fair play.
ZIDANE lost his mind.
Two separate things.
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MATERAZZI lost fair play.
which part of that do u consider to be fair play?
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MATERAZZI lost fair play.
which part of that do u consider to be fair play?
Have you seen Del Piero's reaction to Cufrè's punch in a Roma-Juventus from i believe 2 years ago? That's what i call fair play.
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MATERAZZI lost fair play.
which part of that do u consider to be fair play?
Have you seen Del Piero's reaction to Cufrè's punch in a Roma-Juventus from i believe 2 years ago? That's what i call fair play.
That's great.
But you didn't answer my question.
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Actually i didn't understand your question, my fault. I'll try to explain how i see it. The rules of football allows you to be uncorrect, to cheat, to provoke other players, to disrespect them, to call them wack, to be a bastard, to make fouls, to ask for a penalty, etc.. It's a fact football is full of players who are border line with those rules. Ex. Materazzi, Cufrè, Samuel, Ibrahimovic, C.Ronaldo, etc.. He ain't the only one in the world, you know. If a player acts like that, border line, he lacks fair play. But it's about it. It's a personal thing, it's his way to play football and to stay on the pitch.
Zidane actually did something worse: he didn't follow the rules of football. Cause you can't hurt other players with your head on their chest, it's a written rule, and it's well known.
Personally i think Materazzi is not a player with fair play.
Zidane usually is, but this time he did something who was extremely wrong and who deserved to be punished.
It's the same with C.Ronaldo and Rooney.
C.Ronaldo lacked fair play, asking the ref to give Rooney a red card. But he can do it, he didn't break any rule. It's a lack of fair play. Rooney did the wrong thing, by doing something who deserved the red card. Then obviously you can call C.Ronaldo a bastard, a player with no fair play. But it's still Rooney the one who had to be punished. And it's the same with Materazzi and Zidane. You can call Materazzi a bastard (he is), a player with no fair play (he is), a provoker (he is), but it's still Zidane who had to be punished.
P.S. The ref of the game just said that whatever Materazzi said, nothing can be taken as an excuse to justify the header. And that to diss someone is a bad thing, but not on the same level of an header. Maybe it was "yellow card" material.
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Rumour has it there are rules that it is not allowed *so therefore illegal, not just "not fair play"* to provoke players with racial slurs on the pitch.
Another rule is that you are not allowed to use video footage in order to make a right decision as a ref during the game. They did, although the FIFA denies it, everyone knows that they did.
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IM glad zidane stood up for what e believes.
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In our stadium, every sunday you can hear fans saying "Materazzi son of a bitch". Every fucking game. But Materazzi doesn't react like Zidane.
man it's not that easy to head-butt a stadium full of people.
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You can call Materazzi a bastard (he is), a player with no fair play (he is), a provoker (he is), but it's still Zidane who had to be punished.
lol, that is such bullshit.. materazzi got more punished, he got dropped by a legend.
now materazzi will be remembered as dude that got zidaned.
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I honestly don't care anymore what was said and what not.
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Rumour has it there are rules that it is not allowed *so therefore illegal, not just "not fair play"* to provoke players with racial slurs on the pitch.
Good point. But Zidane never said Materazzi made racial slurs, did he?
And, even if he said racial slurs, like the ref said, they don't justify Zidane's reaction.
Another rule is that you are not allowed to use video footage in order to make a right decision as a ref during the game. They did, although the FIFA denies it, everyone knows that they did.
This is just speculation. Blatter said they didn't show the header on the big screen, and that the 4th man saw everything. That's why Buffon went to him to make justice (and not to the linesman, for example). I won't comment speculations, when everything looks like they didn't use video footage. It looks like a lie. Like the Frings thing.
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IM glad zidane stood up for what e believes.
Me too. One less penalty sure for France.
man it's not that easy to head-butt a stadium full of people.
LOL, good one. Players diss him too, man.
lol, that is such bullshit.. materazzi got more punished, he got dropped by a legend.
now materazzi will be remembered as dude that got zidaned.
I'll remember him as the dude who made a fucking stupid foul who gave France a penalty, about the dude who tied the game with a "real" header, and about the dude who made a decisive penalty to give us the Cup. A defender who made two goals + a penalty in the tournament. That's enought. Zidane will be forgot by Italians, the Cup will remain forever.
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Another rule is that you are not allowed to use video footage in order to make a right decision as a ref during the game. They did, although the FIFA denies it, everyone knows that they did.
This is just speculation. Blatter said they didn't show the header on the big screen, and that the 4th man saw everything. That's why Buffon went to him to make justice (and not to the linesman, for example). I won't comment speculations, when everything looks like they didn't use video footage. It looks like a lie. Like the Frings thing.
I'm VERY sure that the 4th man didn't see crap either. He just saw it on the screen or was told. On the replay analysis after the game, they showed how the linesman obviously didn't see SHIT. Then, some authorities, who obviously saw it on screen, ran to the linesman and snitched on Zidane, afterwards, the linesman snitched on Zidane and told it Elizondo.
No matter what you say man, I'm 100% convinced that video footage was involved in that decision. That's illegal.
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Another rule is that you are not allowed to use video footage in order to make a right decision as a ref during the game. They did, although the FIFA denies it, everyone knows that they did.
This is just speculation. Blatter said they didn't show the header on the big screen, and that the 4th man saw everything. That's why Buffon went to him to make justice (and not to the linesman, for example). I won't comment speculations, when everything looks like they didn't use video footage. It looks like a lie. Like the Frings thing.
I'm VERY sure that the 4th man didn't see crap either. He just saw it on the screen or was told. On the replay analysis after the game, they showed hoe the the linesman obviously didn't see SHIT. Then, some authorities, who obviously saw it on screen, ran to the linesman and snitched on Zidane, afterwards, the linesman snitch on Zidane and told it Elizondo.
No matter what you say man, I'm 100% convinced that video footage was involved in that decision. That's illegal.
Oh man, you said a different thing. And i agree that's how things went. Expecially cause it took 1:38 minutes to decide something. Too much. They were taking time to find help somewhere. And obviously someone of FIFA said Zidane had to be sent off. It's illegal, yeah. But hey, they had Buffon who was screaming the ref "have you seen it? Have yuo seen it?", they had a man down, they had italians protesting and screaming, the linesman didn't see shit, the ref didn't see shit, the stadium was booing..
It's still illegal, tho. But they didn't show it on the big screen. They did it undercover.
P.S. The official version is that the 4th man saw it all from the beginning.
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I have a question, in what language were they speaking you think?, lol thats always been so weird for me in soccer matches, how they hell do they speak to eachother?
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If they had shown it on the big screen, they would be fucked because then it could've been proven. However it is of course right to send Zidane off, it's still a rule not to use video footage/outside help or whatever you wanna call it. I don't buy the story that the 4th man saw it on the pitch as it happened, that's obviously a lie told by the FIFA. If the linesman didn't see shit, how was the 4th man supposed to see shit? Lmao.
Technically, Zidane's headbutt was just a foul that the refs didn't see and therefore there's no red card to be given. It's like when there's an offside the refs don't see and therefore an offside goal is scored, they can't say the goal isn't supposed to count 2 minutes after, because on video it's obvious that it was an offside goal lol. Same with Zidane's headbutt.
I have a question, in what language were they speaking you think?, lol thats always been so weird for me in soccer matches, how they hell do they speak to eachother?
Zidane played in Italy for 5 years or so, I bet he understands some shit.
In general, I'd say there are a lot of different teams who either understand spanish/portugese or english. Not all of them tho.
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If they had shown it on the big screen, they would be fucked because then it could've been proven. However it is of course right to send Zidane off, it's still a rule not to use video footage/outside help or whatever you wanna call it. I don't buy the story that the 4th man saw it on the pitch as it happened, that's obviously a lie told by the FIFA. If the linesman didn't see shit, how was the 4th man supposed to see shit? Lmao.
Technically, Zidane's headbutt was just a foul that the refs didn't see and therefore there's no red card to be given. It's like when there's an offside the refs don't see and therefore an offside goal is scored, they can't say the goal isn't supposed to count 2 minutes after, because on video it's obvious that it was an offside goal lol. Same with Zidane's headbutt.
So true. Damn I hope the truth gets out someday.
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Only 2 people know what was said, Zidane & Materazzi so STFU and stop acting like you KNOW shit that you don't.
Thank you.
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Only 2 people know what was said, Zidane & Materazzi so STFU and stop acting like you KNOW shit that you don't.
Thank you.
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To add, any fan that has interest in this situation already know both sides to the story
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I have a question, in what language were they speaking you think?, lol thats always been so weird for me in soccer matches, how they hell do they speak to eachother?
Materazzi spoke italian.
Zidane speaks italian pretty well, since he played 5 years in Italy for Juventus FC.
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If they had shown it on the big screen, they would be fucked because then it could've been proven. However it is of course right to send Zidane off, it's still a rule not to use video footage/outside help or whatever you wanna call it. I don't buy the story that the 4th man saw it on the pitch as it happened, that's obviously a lie told by the FIFA. If the linesman didn't see shit, how was the 4th man supposed to see shit? Lmao.
Technically, Zidane's headbutt was just a foul that the refs didn't see and therefore there's no red card to be given. It's like when there's an offside the refs don't see and therefore an offside goal is scored, they can't say the goal isn't supposed to count 2 minutes after, because on video it's obvious that it was an offside goal lol. Same with Zidane's headbutt.
Yeah. Or maybe really the 4th man saw it. We don't know the truth, but yes, your version looks realistic, and it's what i think happened. But you gotta view it from FIFA's prospective. They are so against violence and the whole world saw the header, they couldn't let a WC Final be ruined by a ref mistake THAT BIG. It was huge. It's still a mistake, if they did it. I mean i'm a lawyer, and i believe that even if you wanna arrest a mafioso boss, you gotta do it by respecting the rules. But it's FIFA's fault, and they can always say the 4th man saw everything. Who knows?
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Only 2 people know what was said, Zidane & Materazzi so STFU and stop acting like you KNOW shit that you don't.
Thank you.
I'll give you both the same answer i gave to Mack 10: i simply reported Materazzi's side of the story. Which is the only one, at the moment. I dunno why i should talk about something not coming from one of the two! lol.
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To add, any fan that has interest in this situation already know both sides to the story
Did you know Materazzi's side of the story? Well, props to you. But this is a forum. I just wanted to discuss about it. If you already know both sides of the story you can discuss about them or simply ignore the topic.
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Yes, plus you've discussed his side plenty of times ;)
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I know, maybe i'm getting too paranoid about it. I mean i should not give a flying fuck about Zidane, Zidane's mom, Materazzi, the ref. We got the Cup. But i just wanted to discuss about it, you know... If you're tired of reading all those topics about it i have the perfect final post to this:
WE GOT THE CUP.
See ya. ;)
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lol, that is such bullshit.. materazzi got more punished, he got dropped by a legend.
now materazzi will be remembered as dude that got zidaned.
correct word is Zizoued
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lol, that is such bullshit.. materazzi got more punished, he got dropped by a legend.
now materazzi will be remembered as dude that got zidaned.
correct word is Zizoued
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aontonio who cares anymore? you sound like a little bitch. zidane headbutted the shit outta him, and it was in the past. grow some balls and move on with your life.
and if you beleive materazzi doesnt know what a terrorist is, your a fuckin idiot.
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when it comes down to it, it would have looked alot owrse if zidane was not sent off... he did deserve to get sent off regardless if the ref's saw it or not... football is already under scutiny for corruption blabla, so imagine if the ref's didnt send zidane off because they didnt see him ?
but damn it would have been funny if he only got a yellow, and scored a goal ;D