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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 01, 2007, 10:43:24 AM
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Some people out there are pushing for the Lakers to move Bynum for Jermaine O'Neal... But can Bynum be a force much sooner than expected? Take Al Jefferson for example, AJ wasn't even as good as Bynum when comparing their sophmore seasons, but then he broke out in his 3rd...And as we all know AJ (with some pieces) was enough to land KG. I say we wait until mid-season, and if Bynum hasn't panned out by February, that's when we should work out a deal for JO...As of now, it's too risky.
Al Jefferson, 2nd year, Age 21:
PPG: 7.9
RPG: 5.1
APG: 0.5
BPG: 0.8
FG: 49%
FT: 64%
Andrew Bynum, 2nd year, Age 19:
PPG: 7.8
RPG: 6
APG: 1.1
BPG: 1.6
FG: 56%
FT: 67%
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If we can get JO for Bynum without moving Odom (I know, very unlikely) I say do it.
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^I said that as well a few weeks back, but really analyzing the situation got me thinking...I wouldn't be mad though.
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if you wouldnt want to trade Bynum for Oneal then you are crazy!
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if you wouldnt want to trade Bynum for Oneal then you are crazy!
Not that crazy of Bynum pans out..
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Eh....this trade does bring a sense of urgency to us...even though we need to just kick back and be happy that the Mavs, Warriors, or Suns didn't get Garnett.
Personally...I felt that giving up Bynum AND Odom was too much for Garnett, especially if Kwame was included too. So for JO, I'm even more against losing Bynum AND Odom. However....if we had to let one of them go, plus 2 or more fillers for JO...then I miiight be happy with it. I really can't say though...as you said, we should start to see how much Bynum is going to be after a few months this season.
The hardest thing about dealing with Bynum is that no one has any idea how much he's going to blossom, because he doesn't have that fire and that look that makes you say "yes, he is IT, he is the next big star in the league" as we said with Lebron, Durant, and even Oden (who I think is a tad bit overrated). However, he shows flashes of greatness, as well as flashes of mediocrity. I remember the game he got 20 on Garnett and the Wolves, and most Laker boards were saying "I wouldn't even trade Bynum alone for Garnett straight up!!!"....but months later, we were begging for Bynum PLUS others to get traded for Garnett.
I personally see Bynum's ceiling as Brad Daugherty + some...and people may say "who the hell is he??? That guy who does Nascar, WTF???" but people who were into basketball back in the early 90's will remember him as being a VERY solid player and All Star who was overshadowed by Robinson, Ewing, Olajuwon, and eventually Shaq and Mourning. Therefore, in today's game, that would make him a top five center at his peak. However...he does still show signs that he's not as motivated to be a star as we want him to be, and he does seem to be more whiney than we'd like. Sure, he's young as hell....but even young stars don't have that "awww man, leave me alone!!!" kind of attitude to them.
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I got a feeling Bynum is gonna be a real nice player
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yes we should package Andrew Bynum for K.G. Oh wait... :-X
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I said it once, and i'll repeat it. Bynum is a little bit overrated, Biedrins is a little bit underrated. Look at his stats in his 2nd season, last season.
Andris Biedrins, Age 20:
PPG: 9.5
RPG: 9.3
APG: 1.1
BPG: 1.7
FG: 59%
FT: 52%
Better than both. This guy is insane: i fucking love him. He can defend, he can grab the ball inside, he can dunk, he can do it all. AND he's European. ;D
AS OF NOW........ Al Jefferson > Andris Biedrins > Andrew Bynum
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Sure, but I'm not feeling a Bynum + Odom trade except maybe for Gasol.
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I said it once, and i'll repeat it. Bynum is a little bit overrated, Biedrins is a little bit underrated. Look at his stats in his 2nd season, last season.
Andris Biedrins, Age 20:
PPG: 9.5
RPG: 9.3
APG: 1.1
BPG: 1.7
FG: 59%
FT: 52%
Better than both. This guy is insane: i fucking love him. He can defend, he can grab the ball inside, he can dunk, he can do it all. AND he's European. ;D
AS OF NOW........ Al Jefferson > Andris Biedrins > Andrew Bynum
Dude, that's in a starting role, playing 30 mins a game...Once Al Harrington was acquired later in the season, his minutes and numbers drastically decreased. Biedrins is a nice young player, don't get me wrong, but as far as upside goes, Bynum >>>>> Biedrins, and as far as right now, I'd still say Bynum is the better player...PeACe
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I would trade Bynum for Oneal as long as it doesnt include Odom.
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get rid of kwame and bynum
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Sure, but I'm not feeling a Bynum + Odom trade except maybe for Gasol.
:raisetheroof:
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Kobe > Bynum
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I want Odom in L.A
I'm still willing to give Kwame another year
Why do we still have Mihm?
Bynum, I'm like 50/50 on...
We need to do something!! Mitchie better get on his knee's and blow Bryant.
cause our ship is sinking before it set's sail for the 2007/2008 season.
Even if we lose every game next season, Laker'4life
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Kobe > Bynum
$10 > $5
Since were stating the obvious.
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I say we wait until mid-season, and if Bynum hasn't panned out by February,
If Bynum hasn't made some improvements in the 1st part of the season , it's obvious his trade value will go down coz other GMs will seriuosly start to doubt Andrew can be a difference maker ... anyways it's obvious FO ain't gonna do sth ... we are stuck in mediocrity , we all still can have some hopes, but being objective we are falling off ...
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However...he does still show signs that he's not as motivated to be a star as we want him to be, and he does seem to be more whiney than we'd like. Sure, he's young as hell....but even young stars don't have that "awww man, leave me alone!!!" kind of attitude to them.
Exactly Bynum seems not to know what it takes to become a top notch player ... it demands a lot of work and efforts .. Bynum still got a childhish attitude , as for example a BIG lol at him crying coz Phil get his ass out of the court for poor comprehension of the system
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Kobe said it best
"Andrew Bynum? Are you fucking kidding me? Fucking ship his ass out!"
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Kobe > Bynum
$10 > $5
Since were stating the obvious.
Don't be like that. My point was that you will have to choose who to build a team around! Are you going for the long run and build a team around Bynum, or for the short run and build a team around Kobe? Cause this current team will go nowhere. Either trade Kobe and build a deep team around Bynum and shit, or trade Bynum and give Kobe some help. You can't have both things. And as I said Kobe > Bynum, you should do the latter.
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I said it once, and i'll repeat it. Bynum is a little bit overrated, Biedrins is a little bit underrated. Look at his stats in his 2nd season, last season.
Andris Biedrins, Age 20:
PPG: 9.5
RPG: 9.3
APG: 1.1
BPG: 1.7
FG: 59%
FT: 52%
Better than both. This guy is insane: i fucking love him. He can defend, he can grab the ball inside, he can dunk, he can do it all. AND he's European. ;D
AS OF NOW........ Al Jefferson > Andris Biedrins > Andrew Bynum
Dude, that's in a starting role, playing 30 mins a game...Once Al Harrington was acquired later in the season, his minutes and numbers drastically decreased. Biedrins is a nice young player, don't get me wrong, but as far as upside goes, Bynum >>>>> Biedrins, and as far as right now, I'd still say Bynum is the better player...PeACe
I don't know about that, man. Both looks promising, but Biedrins showed me more about his potential than Bynum did.
Anyway i do agree with wcsoldier: you can't wait till feb to trade him: you have to do it now, or never. Nobody knows if Bynum is gonna have an Al Jefferson type of season. But that's the best moment to trade him: we gotta find a team who believes that and trade him to them. Or keep him. But nobody will get him in feb if he won't have a great season.
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Yea, that is also true. If Bynum doesn't improve significantly this year, his trade value is gone. GONE.
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I say we wait until mid-season, and if Bynum hasn't panned out by February,
If Bynum hasn't made some improvements in the 1st part of the season , it's obvious his trade value will go down coz other GMs will seriuosly start to doubt Andrew can be a difference maker ... anyways it's obvious FO ain't gonna do sth ... we are stuck in mediocrity , we all still can have some hopes, but being objective we are falling off ...
IMO, we improved from last year, and so will Bynum...You're just pessimistic.
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Kobe said it best
"Andrew Bynum? Are you fucking kidding me? Fucking ship his ass out!"
If he can get Kidd...But 1.Kidd isn't on the block anymore 2.Kobe cleared shit up with Bynum already. Kobe's whole point was that he wasn't gunna wait for Bynum to develop while he can have a superstar like Jason Kidd, not that Bynum is no good...PeACe
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I said it once, and i'll repeat it. Bynum is a little bit overrated, Biedrins is a little bit underrated. Look at his stats in his 2nd season, last season.
Andris Biedrins, Age 20:
PPG: 9.5
RPG: 9.3
APG: 1.1
BPG: 1.7
FG: 59%
FT: 52%
Better than both. This guy is insane: i fucking love him. He can defend, he can grab the ball inside, he can dunk, he can do it all. AND he's European. ;D
AS OF NOW........ Al Jefferson > Andris Biedrins > Andrew Bynum
Dude, that's in a starting role, playing 30 mins a game...Once Al Harrington was acquired later in the season, his minutes and numbers drastically decreased. Biedrins is a nice young player, don't get me wrong, but as far as upside goes, Bynum >>>>> Biedrins, and as far as right now, I'd still say Bynum is the better player...PeACe
I don't know about that, man. Both looks promising, but Biedrins showed me more about his potential than Bynum did.
Anyway i do agree with wcsoldier: you can't wait till feb to trade him: you have to do it now, or never. Nobody knows if Bynum is gonna have an Al Jefferson type of season. But that's the best moment to trade him: we gotta find a team who believes that and trade him to them. Or keep him. But nobody will get him in feb if he won't have a great season.
IF...You just have a pessimistic mind. What IF Bynum has that AJ type breakout season and his value sky-rockets? That's the optimistic way of thinking about things...And Biedrins is soft compared to Bynum. Bynum has a.)a nicer touch around the basket b.)better footwork c.)nicer post moves d.)better shot...Pretty much more potential. Biedrins only currently has the edge on man-to-man defense, but Bynum is gunna be a beast on D as well ...PeACe
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I said it once, and i'll repeat it. Bynum is a little bit overrated, Biedrins is a little bit underrated. Look at his stats in his 2nd season, last season.
Andris Biedrins, Age 20:
PPG: 9.5
RPG: 9.3
APG: 1.1
BPG: 1.7
FG: 59%
FT: 52%
Better than both. This guy is insane: i fucking love him. He can defend, he can grab the ball inside, he can dunk, he can do it all. AND he's European. ;D
AS OF NOW........ Al Jefferson > Andris Biedrins > Andrew Bynum
Dude, that's in a starting role, playing 30 mins a game...Once Al Harrington was acquired later in the season, his minutes and numbers drastically decreased. Biedrins is a nice young player, don't get me wrong, but as far as upside goes, Bynum >>>>> Biedrins, and as far as right now, I'd still say Bynum is the better player...PeACe
I don't know about that, man. Both looks promising, but Biedrins showed me more about his potential than Bynum did.
Anyway i do agree with wcsoldier: you can't wait till feb to trade him: you have to do it now, or never. Nobody knows if Bynum is gonna have an Al Jefferson type of season. But that's the best moment to trade him: we gotta find a team who believes that and trade him to them. Or keep him. But nobody will get him in feb if he won't have a great season.
IF...You just have a pessimistic mind. What IF Bynum has that AJ type breakout season and his value sky-rockets? That's the optimistic way of thinking about things...And Biedrins is soft compared to Bynum. Bynum has a.)a nicer touch around the basket b.)better footwork c.)nicer post moves d.)better shot...Pretty much more potential. Biedrins only currently has the edge on man-to-man defense, but Bynum is gunna be a beast on D as well ...PeACe
I'm not pessimistic. I'm not one of them guys who wants Mitch to do a trade at any costs. I only want it if it's worth it. I didn't say we should trade Bynum: it's up to Mitch. If Mitch and the Organization keep the faith in this guy we should keep him no matter what. If we don't think he'll be an All-Star, we betta trade him now, not next feb. Cause now there're some GM's who rate him very high, so we could get a good player in return.
But wait: we refused to trade him for Kidd.
So we should keep him for 2-3 years, man. I mean we passed on Kidd to keep him, we can't trade him now. Unless it is without trading Odom too. You know what i mean?
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^^ http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/stats/byposition?pos=C&sort=25&qualified=0&conference=NBA&year=season_2006
Not bad, eh? The only youngsters ahead of him are Dalambert and Kaman, who both have plays runned for them... and both are 5+ years older than Bynum, at age 19. Not to mention the difference in MPG and seasons played...Worst case scenario, Bynum peaks at 15-10-2. You don't give up on a player like that...
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right now Biedrens is definitely a better all around player than Bynum.
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right now Biedrens is definitely a better all around player than Bynum.
Definitely? You speak very boldly...Lets see if you have the same opinion in December.
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What do you guys think now? BabyG, do you still think that Minnesota's offer for KG was better? Spice, you still think Biedrins is "definitely" a better player than Bynum? LOL.
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What do you guys think now? BabyG, do you still think that Minnesota's offer for KG was better? Spice, you still think Biedrins is "definitely" a better player than Bynum? LOL.
Spice gets OWNED hahahhaa
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HAHAH LMAO at bringing this back up, get a life NIK.
Anyways maybe not definitely better but yea right now he is just as good if not better.
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I fucking love this sport!
You can't believe how a player can change and mature from one year to another. Last year i wasn't a Farmar fan at all, and i've written it a couple of times too, in this forum. I was never been impressed by him (before this season), i wasn't impressed by him at UCLA (i prefeer defensive-minded point guards who have a "pass-first" menthality), and i didn't think he was worth Farmar's backup spot. Shit this summer i was supporting Crittenton more than him (i still like Crit, tho). Then he suddenly started to play on a whole new level for him. NOW i'm impressed! Luke Walton, on the other hand, was a player i loved. I thought he was something "special", with great potential. But this season he's a huge disappointment to me. After he signed that big contract, he probably lost the "fire". Bynum? What can i say? I wasn't impressed about him too, last season. I mean dude looked special, but he had a very disappointing work attitude, he arrived late in trainings, he played with no passion, he even said: "I don't care if i start or not" who made Phil mad about him (me too). Then the infamous Kobe sentence probably put the fire under his ass, and now he's a man on a mission. Now it's clear this dude is probably the most exciting young project in the league. Shit we're seriously arguing if Bynum will end up being better than Howard in 2 years! No shit. What can i say? Nothing, i just want to thank Mitch. I'm one of the very few guys in here who never really dissed him and who actually respects him. I'm glad he did the right thing by not trading him for Kidd/JO/KG. This guy is "really" special.
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I fucking love this sport!
You can't believe how a player can change and mature from one year to another. Last year i wasn't a Farmar fan at all, and i've written it a couple of times too, in this forum. I was never been impressed by him (before this season), i wasn't impressed by him at UCLA (i prefeer defensive-minded point guards who have a "pass-first" menthality), and i didn't think he was worth Farmar's backup spot. Shit this summer i was supporting Crittenton more than him (i still like Crit, tho). Then he suddenly started to play on a whole new level for him. NOW i'm impressed! Luke Walton, on the other hand, was a player i loved. I thought he was something "special", with great potential. But this season he's a huge disappointment to me. After he signed that big contract, he probably lost the "fire". Bynum? What can i say? I wasn't impressed about him too, last season. I mean dude looked special, but he had a very disappointing work attitude, he arrived late in trainings, he played with no passion, he even said: "I don't care if i start or not" who made Phil mad about him (me too). Then the infamous Kobe sentence probably put the fire under his ass, and now he's a man on a mission. Now it's clear this dude is probably the most exciting young project in the league. Shit we're seriously arguing if Bynum will end up being better than Howard in 2 years! No shit. What can i say? Nothing, i just want to thank Mitch. I'm one of the very few guys in here who never really dissed him and who actually respects him. I'm glad he did the right thing by not trading him for Kidd/JO/KG. This guy is "really" special.
lets not put Bynum in the HOF just yet...
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Oh, c'mon. Just put yourself in my shoes for a moment. Wouldn't you be as excited as i am to have Kobe PLUS a (real) 7'0', 20 years old kid as dominant as Bynum in your team?
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Oh, c'mon. Just put yourself in my shoes for a moment. Wouldn't you be as excited as i am to have Kobe PLUS a (real) 7'0', 20 years old kid as dominant as Bynum in your team?
yes you should be
but when someone tells me the Lakers are better than the C's even though we served themtwice this year, thats just foolish (not calling you out)
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HAHAH LMAO at bringing this back up, get a life NIK.
Anyways maybe not definitely better but yea right now he is just as good if not better.
The only thing hilarious about me bringing this back is that you got sonned badly. Biedrins is good, but he's nowhere near Bynum.
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Oh, c'mon. Just put yourself in my shoes for a moment. Wouldn't you be as excited as i am to have Kobe PLUS a (real) 7'0', 20 years old kid as dominant as Bynum in your team?
yes you should be
but when someone tells me the Lakers are better than the C's even though we served themtwice this year, thats just foolish (not calling you out)
Like I said...wait till the playoffs to do your talking, bro.
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Oh, c'mon. Just put yourself in my shoes for a moment. Wouldn't you be as excited as i am to have Kobe PLUS a (real) 7'0', 20 years old kid as dominant as Bynum in your team?
yes you should be
but when someone tells me the Lakers are better than the C's even though we served themtwice this year, thats just foolish (not calling you out)
Like I said...wait till the playoffs to do your talking, bro.
29-3 foo ;D
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See what I can't stand? We all know you just "believed" in Bynum because he's a Laker. Now, as he is kicking ass, you act like you were that super analyzer who sees talent nobody else could see. LOL.
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HAHAH LMAO at bringing this back up, get a life NIK.
Anyways maybe not definitely better but yea right now he is just as good if not better.
The only thing hilarious about me bringing this back is that you got sonned badly. Biedrins is good, but he's nowhere near Bynum.
how is he nowhere close?? you are a biased tool
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See what I can't stand? We all know you just "believed" in Bynum because he's a Laker. Now, as he is kicking ass, you act like you were that super analyzer who sees talent nobody else could see. LOL.
hahahahaha
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See what I can't stand? We all know you just "believed" in Bynum because he's a Laker. Now, as he is kicking ass, you act like you were that super analyzer who sees talent nobody else could see. LOL.
ahahahah so true. NIK is a joke.
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See what I can't stand? We all know you just "believed" in Bynum because he's a Laker. Now, as he is kicking ass, you act like you were that super analyzer who sees talent nobody else could see. LOL.
Are you saying I hyped Turiaf and Mihm as much as I hyped Bynum? Get the fuck outta here with that nonsense. Any true basketball head coulda seen that Bynum was something special from a mile away.
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See what I can't stand? We all know you just "believed" in Bynum because he's a Laker. Now, as he is kicking ass, you act like you were that super analyzer who sees talent nobody else could see. LOL.
ahahahah so true. NIK is a joke.
Come up with some real arguments, THEN post in this section.
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See what I can't stand? We all know you just "believed" in Bynum because he's a Laker. Now, as he is kicking ass, you act like you were that super analyzer who sees talent nobody else could see. LOL.
I actually said the opposite. LOL.
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See what I can't stand? We all know you just "believed" in Bynum because he's a Laker. Now, as he is kicking ass, you act like you were that super analyzer who sees talent nobody else could see. LOL.
I actually said the opposite. LOL.
Ummm.. have you just had a great moment, sniffed a line of cocaine or why do you assume I'm talking about you? Don't get it twisted, you my nigga and everything. I'm just saying.
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If youre a Laker fan, which i for sure aint lol. You want this trade! The Lakers probably arent winning any titles antime soon with this current lineup. Theyve improved, but they wont win a title. Kobe will only get older and decline. Its best to take advantage of his talent NOW while he's still at the top of his game. Bynum, if he develops into something great (iffffff), will be a couple years down the road probably.
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If youre a Laker fan, which i for sure aint lol. You want this trade! The Lakers probably arent winning any titles antime soon with this current lineup. Theyve improved, but they wont win a title. Kobe will only get older and decline. Its best to take advantage of his talent NOW while he's still at the top of his game. Bynum, if he develops into something great (iffffff), will be a couple years down the road probably.
Bynum is at the top of his game now? Bynum is already something great, what the hell do you mean "iffffff"? LOL. What trade do you "want" if you're a Laker fan? Bynum for JO? For your sake, I hope that's not what you meant.
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See what I can't stand? We all know you just "believed" in Bynum because he's a Laker. Now, as he is kicking ass, you act like you were that super analyzer who sees talent nobody else could see. LOL.
I actually said the opposite. LOL.
Ummm.. have you just had a great moment, sniffed a line of cocaine or why do you assume I'm talking about you? Don't get it twisted, you my nigga and everything. I'm just saying.
Why don't you respond to what I said? I only hyped Bynum "because he's a Laker"?...Then why didn't I hype other Laker players in the same fashion? Please elaborate if you wanna make claims like that.
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If youre a Laker fan, which i for sure aint lol. You want this trade! The Lakers probably arent winning any titles antime soon with this current lineup. Theyve improved, but they wont win a title. Kobe will only get older and decline. Its best to take advantage of his talent NOW while he's still at the top of his game. Bynum, if he develops into something great (iffffff), will be a couple years down the road probably.
Bynum is at the top of his game now? Bynum is already something great, what the hell do you mean "iffffff"? LOL. What trade do you "want" if you're a Laker fan? Bynum for JO? For your sake, I hope that's not what you meant.
Umm....reread. I said Kobe is at the top of his game right now. He wont get any better then he is now. The Lakers best bet is to push for a title run NOW rather then wait for Bynum to turn into an All Star (iffffffffff he does). If you think Bynum is something "great", then that puts your "Kobe>Jordan" argument into perspective. Bynum so far is what you call "serviceable".
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See what I can't stand? We all know you just "believed" in Bynum because he's a Laker. Now, as he is kicking ass, you act like you were that super analyzer who sees talent nobody else could see. LOL.
I actually said the opposite. LOL.
Ummm.. have you just had a great moment, sniffed a line of cocaine or why do you assume I'm talking about you? Don't get it twisted, you my nigga and everything. I'm just saying.
Why don't you respond to what I said? I only hyped Bynum "because he's a Laker"?...Then why didn't I hype other Laker players in the same fashion? Please elaborate if you wanna make claims like that.
Well I don't like to state the obvious too much. The facts are, that there was never a doubt about who might have more upside, Bynum, Turiaf or Mihm. From day motherfucking 1, it was obvious that Bynum has the greatest upside and therefore the greatest chance of turning into something relevant in the future... for all the obvious reasons, like age, physis and talent. Next, Turiaf and Mihm were never that much of an issue when it comes to that Laker drama this summer. Well actually they weren't an issue at all, again, for obvious reasons. Nobody talked about trading Mihm and Odom for JO. Nobody talked about trading Turiaf for Kidd. Nobody talked about trading Mihm for Artest. Nobody talked about "just waiting for Mihm to develop", LOL. Bynum was the huge issue, the sex buddy of Jim Buss, all of that. Kobe never called out Mihm or Turiaf in front of some white kids who more or less secretly taped him. Turiaf never got his work ethic ciriticized by Phil. Do I really have to go on? Bynum was a HUGE topic during the last months. And I can tell you this much, if Bynum was like .450, 9 points, 6 rebounds, 1.2 blocks... Kobe would still ask to be traded.
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If youre a Laker fan, which i for sure aint lol. You want this trade! The Lakers probably arent winning any titles antime soon with this current lineup. Theyve improved, but they wont win a title. Kobe will only get older and decline. Its best to take advantage of his talent NOW while he's still at the top of his game. Bynum, if he develops into something great (iffffff), will be a couple years down the road probably.
Bynum is at the top of his game now? Bynum is already something great, what the hell do you mean "iffffff"? LOL. What trade do you "want" if you're a Laker fan? Bynum for JO? For your sake, I hope that's not what you meant.
Umm....reread. I said Kobe is at the top of his game right now. He wont get any better then he is now. The Lakers best bet is to push for a title run NOW rather then wait for Bynum to turn into an All Star (iffffffffff he does). If you think Bynum is something "great", then that puts your "Kobe>Jordan" argument into perspective. Bynum so far is what you call "serviceable".
Don't you realize how dumb you sound when you say "ifffffff Bynum turns into an all-star"? He's playing like an all-star right now, genius. Ronny Turiaf is "serviceable". Rick Fox was "serviceable". Brian Shaw was "servicable"... Bynum is a beast. The fact that you would even call him that, considering he's a double-double guy at the age of 20, just goes to shows how much knowledge you lack on this topic. :grumpy:
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If youre a Laker fan, which i for sure aint lol. You want this trade! The Lakers probably arent winning any titles antime soon with this current lineup. Theyve improved, but they wont win a title. Kobe will only get older and decline. Its best to take advantage of his talent NOW while he's still at the top of his game. Bynum, if he develops into something great (iffffff), will be a couple years down the road probably.
Bynum is at the top of his game now? Bynum is already something great, what the hell do you mean "iffffff"? LOL. What trade do you "want" if you're a Laker fan? Bynum for JO? For your sake, I hope that's not what you meant.
Umm....reread. I said Kobe is at the top of his game right now. He wont get any better then he is now. The Lakers best bet is to push for a title run NOW rather then wait for Bynum to turn into an All Star (iffffffffff he does). If you think Bynum is something "great", then that puts your "Kobe>Jordan" argument into perspective. Bynum so far is what you call "serviceable".
Don't you realize how dumb you sound when you say "ifffffff Bynum turns into an all-star"? He's playing like an all-star right now, genius. Ronny Turiaf is "serviceable". Rick Fox was "serviceable". Brian Shaw was "servicable"... Bynum is a beast. The fact that you would even call him that, considering he's a double-double guy at the age of 20, just goes to shows how much knowledge you lack on this topic. :grumpy:
lol@ beast.
Do you realize how dumb you sound?? :stupid:
lol....beast. You kill me NIK.
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^^Yea...avereging a double-double with 2.1 blocks and the 2nd best field-goal percentage in the league (+a nice free throw % for a center) isn't beasting. ::)
Watch some games...It's obvious you haven't seen the kid play. Ask your boy Duncan what he thinks about him. :-*
Still LMFAO@"ifffffff he'll be an all-star"
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^^Yea...avereging a double-double with 2.1 blocks and the 2nd best field-goal percentage in the league (+a nice free throw % for a center) isn't beasting. ::)
Watch some games...It's obvious you haven't seen the kid play. Ask your boy Duncan what he thinks about him. :-*
Still LMFAO@"ifffffff he'll be an all-star"
maybe I just have higher standards when I think of someone calling a bigman a "beast". Then again, you have higher standards too....unless its a Laker youre talking about.
And yeah, "if". His only advantage at becoming an all star would be a big media market like LA. Other then that, we've seen a million Andrew Bynums over the years....nothin special so far.
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^^Yea...avereging a double-double with 2.1 blocks and the 2nd best field-goal percentage in the league (+a nice free throw % for a center) isn't beasting. ::)
Watch some games...It's obvious you haven't seen the kid play. Ask your boy Duncan what he thinks about him. :-*
Still LMFAO@"ifffffff he'll be an all-star"
maybe I just have higher standards when I think of someone calling a bigman a "beast". Then again, you have higher standards too....unless its a Laker youre talking about.
And yeah, "if". His only advantage at becoming an all star would be a big media market like LA. Other then that, we've seen a million Andrew Bynums over the years....nothin special so far.
WOW...stop, now.
Tim Duncan was properly impressed, saying the Lakers center showed great promise for a 20-year-old. When informed Bynum had recently turned 19, Duncan's eyes widened. "Nineteen? That should be illegal," he said, shaking his head.
^^That's what your boy said LAST YEAR.
I'm convinced that you haven't seen Bynum in action this season. And if you have, I feel very sorry for you (if you truly believe what you're saying).
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^^Yea...avereging a double-double with 2.1 blocks and the 2nd best field-goal percentage in the league (+a nice free throw % for a center) isn't beasting. ::)
Watch some games...It's obvious you haven't seen the kid play. Ask your boy Duncan what he thinks about him. :-*
Still LMFAO@"ifffffff he'll be an all-star"
maybe I just have higher standards when I think of someone calling a bigman a "beast". Then again, you have higher standards too....unless its a Laker youre talking about.
And yeah, "if". His only advantage at becoming an all star would be a big media market like LA. Other then that, we've seen a million Andrew Bynums over the years....nothin special so far.
WOW...stop, now.
Tim Duncan was properly impressed, saying the Lakers center showed great promise for a 20-year-old. When informed Bynum had recently turned 19, Duncan's eyes widened. "Nineteen? That should be illegal," he said, shaking his head.
^^That's what your boy said LAST YEAR.
I'm convinced that you haven't seen Bynum in action this season. And if you have, I feel very sorry for you (if you truly believe what you're saying).
Its funny how often you use the "you must not watch them much" argument. Its pretty silly at this point.
And yeah, Duncan gave him props. Congratulations Bynum. Then again, the consensus among basketball analysts and scouts when Shawn Bradley hit the league was that you would have to be a fool not to take this guy.
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^^Yea...avereging a double-double with 2.1 blocks and the 2nd best field-goal percentage in the league (+a nice free throw % for a center) isn't beasting. ::)
Watch some games...It's obvious you haven't seen the kid play. Ask your boy Duncan what he thinks about him. :-*
Still LMFAO@"ifffffff he'll be an all-star"
maybe I just have higher standards when I think of someone calling a bigman a "beast". Then again, you have higher standards too....unless its a Laker youre talking about.
And yeah, "if". His only advantage at becoming an all star would be a big media market like LA. Other then that, we've seen a million Andrew Bynums over the years....nothin special so far.
I bet you havent been watchin Lakers games this year huh ??? Bynum is killing everything dude is def a beast 8)
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^^Yea...avereging a double-double with 2.1 blocks and the 2nd best field-goal percentage in the league (+a nice free throw % for a center) isn't beasting. ::)
Watch some games...It's obvious you haven't seen the kid play. Ask your boy Duncan what he thinks about him. :-*
Still LMFAO@"ifffffff he'll be an all-star"
maybe I just have higher standards when I think of someone calling a bigman a "beast". Then again, you have higher standards too....unless its a Laker youre talking about.
And yeah, "if". His only advantage at becoming an all star would be a big media market like LA. Other then that, we've seen a million Andrew Bynums over the years....nothin special so far.
I bet you havent been watchin Lakers games this year huh ??? Bynum is killing everything dude is def a beast 8)
lol 12.9 PPG and 10.0 RPG.....a beast....
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^^Yea...avereging a double-double with 2.1 blocks and the 2nd best field-goal percentage in the league (+a nice free throw % for a center) isn't beasting. ::)
Watch some games...It's obvious you haven't seen the kid play. Ask your boy Duncan what he thinks about him. :-*
Still LMFAO@"ifffffff he'll be an all-star"
maybe I just have higher standards when I think of someone calling a bigman a "beast". Then again, you have higher standards too....unless its a Laker youre talking about.
And yeah, "if". His only advantage at becoming an all star would be a big media market like LA. Other then that, we've seen a million Andrew Bynums over the years....nothin special so far.
I bet you havent been watchin Lakers games this year huh ??? Bynum is killing everything dude is def a beast 8)
lol 12.9 PPG and 10.0 RPG.....a beast....
Not even playing 30 minutes a game.
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^^Yea...avereging a double-double with 2.1 blocks and the 2nd best field-goal percentage in the league (+a nice free throw % for a center) isn't beasting. ::)
Watch some games...It's obvious you haven't seen the kid play. Ask your boy Duncan what he thinks about him. :-*
Still LMFAO@"ifffffff he'll be an all-star"
maybe I just have higher standards when I think of someone calling a bigman a "beast". Then again, you have higher standards too....unless its a Laker youre talking about.
And yeah, "if". His only advantage at becoming an all star would be a big media market like LA. Other then that, we've seen a million Andrew Bynums over the years....nothin special so far.
I bet you havent been watchin Lakers games this year huh ??? Bynum is killing everything dude is def a beast 8)
lol 12.9 PPG and 10.0 RPG.....a beast....
Not even playing 30 minutes a game.
if it makes you guys feel better tho think you have a "beast" in the paint, then go ahead. its stupid to argue anymore when everyone has a different definition of what NIK referred to as a beast. To me, a beast has to be much better then Bynum. For you guys, he's good enough.
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^^Yea...avereging a double-double with 2.1 blocks and the 2nd best field-goal percentage in the league (+a nice free throw % for a center) isn't beasting. ::)
Watch some games...It's obvious you haven't seen the kid play. Ask your boy Duncan what he thinks about him. :-*
Still LMFAO@"ifffffff he'll be an all-star"
maybe I just have higher standards when I think of someone calling a bigman a "beast". Then again, you have higher standards too....unless its a Laker youre talking about.
And yeah, "if". His only advantage at becoming an all star would be a big media market like LA. Other then that, we've seen a million Andrew Bynums over the years....nothin special so far.
WOW...stop, now.
Tim Duncan was properly impressed, saying the Lakers center showed great promise for a 20-year-old. When informed Bynum had recently turned 19, Duncan's eyes widened. "Nineteen? That should be illegal," he said, shaking his head.
^^That's what your boy said LAST YEAR.
I'm convinced that you haven't seen Bynum in action this season. And if you have, I feel very sorry for you (if you truly believe what you're saying).
Its funny how often you use the "you must not watch them much" argument. Its pretty silly at this point.
And yeah, Duncan gave him props. Congratulations Bynum. Then again, the consensus among basketball analysts and scouts when Shawn Bradley hit the league was that you would have to be a fool not to take this guy.
Do you have any points to make about Bynum? Didn't think so.
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^^Yea...avereging a double-double with 2.1 blocks and the 2nd best field-goal percentage in the league (+a nice free throw % for a center) isn't beasting. ::)
Watch some games...It's obvious you haven't seen the kid play. Ask your boy Duncan what he thinks about him. :-*
Still LMFAO@"ifffffff he'll be an all-star"
maybe I just have higher standards when I think of someone calling a bigman a "beast". Then again, you have higher standards too....unless its a Laker youre talking about.
And yeah, "if". His only advantage at becoming an all star would be a big media market like LA. Other then that, we've seen a million Andrew Bynums over the years....nothin special so far.
I bet you havent been watchin Lakers games this year huh ??? Bynum is killing everything dude is def a beast 8)
lol 12.9 PPG and 10.0 RPG.....a beast....
In under 30 mins with 2.1 blocks and the 2nd best FG% in the league...yup...that's a beast. :-*
"IFFFFFF he becomes an all-star"
LMAO.
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^^Yea...avereging a double-double with 2.1 blocks and the 2nd best field-goal percentage in the league (+a nice free throw % for a center) isn't beasting. ::)
Watch some games...It's obvious you haven't seen the kid play. Ask your boy Duncan what he thinks about him. :-*
Still LMFAO@"ifffffff he'll be an all-star"
maybe I just have higher standards when I think of someone calling a bigman a "beast". Then again, you have higher standards too....unless its a Laker youre talking about.
And yeah, "if". His only advantage at becoming an all star would be a big media market like LA. Other then that, we've seen a million Andrew Bynums over the years....nothin special so far.
I bet you havent been watchin Lakers games this year huh ??? Bynum is killing everything dude is def a beast 8)
lol 12.9 PPG and 10.0 RPG.....a beast....
Not even playing 30 minutes a game.
if it makes you guys feel better tho think you have a "beast" in the paint, then go ahead. its stupid to argue anymore when everyone has a different definition of what NIK referred to as a beast. To me, a beast has to be much better then Bynum. For you guys, he's good enough.
Bynum has more rebounds than Duncan this year. :-X
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does he have more rebounds per game?
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does he have more rebounds per game?
.7 less..that's still pretty damn good lol
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does he have more rebounds per game?
Around the same, which is awesome, considering Duncan plays 5 more minutes per game. 8)
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does he have more rebounds per game?
.7 less..that's still pretty damn good lol
i didn't know the answer i wasn't being sarcastic lol
bynums good. i think Greg Oden is going to be the best center in the west in the future but Bynum can hold his own.