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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Chad on April 30, 2008, 03:07:50 PM
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(http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/thedoc08-part1/thedoc.jpg)
Dubcnn tapped in with the D.O.C. for an exclusive interview for the first time in two years [see the 2006 feature]. In Part 1 of the interview, D.O.C starts right off touching on the long-anticipated Dr. Dre solo album Detox. From there he chops it up with us about the No One Can Do It Better album from back in the day, Dr. Dre, N.W.A., Mel-Man, and even talks about a new D.O.C. record produced by the good Doctor!
http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/thedoc08-part1/ (http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/thedoc08-part1/)
Stay tuned to Dubcnn for Part 2 with the D.O.C.!
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Cool, just started to feel his records and now this? :o
I just hope that this time those Aftermath albums is really gonna get released! And that D.O.C & Doctor won't KO themselves for the 3rd time, haha! ;D
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Dubcnn: Mel-Man was such a big part of 2001, then he just disappeared shortly after that. Now we’re hearing that he’s back, but no one I guess really knows. Can you confirm that?
Mel-Man is always around. But sometimes, and I’m going to say this as humbly as I can. Dre is a giver, and he will give you...like a lot of people always tend to give other folks credit ‘cause they’re around when shit is going down. But, if it come out of here, you can bet your last money Dre is on it so tough, that anybody else’s energy that would’ve been on it is being smothered. You understand? It’s no longer there. Like, if I found a sample and gave it to Dre, what he’s going to do with it is going to make it so different from what it was when I had it that in order for me to claim it, it would take a lot of nuts and a lot of pride. And pride is not good.
Dre is not in to ‘I did that’, because he already knows he did the shit. That’s the same shit used when Daz was around. It was supposed to be all Daz’s. I sit and watch these niggaz. They give the nigga [Dre] the drums and he takes them and builds them ‘cause they can’t do what Dre do. They don’t have his ears. So it’s all in the guy’s ears and how he hears the shit. It’s not something so special that he’s doing to the drums that they not doing. You can use the same equipment that he uses, but he’s going to turn that button a little differently than you turn it, and make that shit sound different. That’s the key. That’s the key.
No matter who says this, or how many times it is said,
Somebody will overlook this and say Dre 'Steals'..
Props on the Interview!Can't wait for Part 2
Any info on Snoop in the Interview???
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Excellent interview!
Can't wait for pt 2!
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props for the interview!
is it me or dre is a real fuckin gangster? I mean he uses people and takes shit from them and nobody got the balls to say shit against him no matter where you look, all interviewed about dre say he's God and shit even DOC thats like Dre level..
8) 8) 8)
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Props for interview!!! Part 2 should be good as well ;)
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Excellent interview!
Can't wait for pt 2!
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Dubcnn: Mel-Man was such a big part of 2001, then he just disappeared shortly after that. Now we’re hearing that he’s back, but no one I guess really knows. Can you confirm that?
Mel-Man is always around. But sometimes, and I’m going to say this as humbly as I can. Dre is a giver, and he will give you...like a lot of people always tend to give other folks credit ‘cause they’re around when shit is going down. But, if it come out of here, you can bet your last money Dre is on it so tough, that anybody else’s energy that would’ve been on it is being smothered. You understand? It’s no longer there. Like, if I found a sample and gave it to Dre, what he’s going to do with it is going to make it so different from what it was when I had it that in order for me to claim it, it would take a lot of nuts and a lot of pride. And pride is not good.
Dre is not in to ‘I did that’, because he already knows he did the shit. That’s the same shit used when Daz was around. It was supposed to be all Daz’s. I sit and watch these niggaz. They give the nigga [Dre] the drums and he takes them and builds them ‘cause they can’t do what Dre do. They don’t have his ears. So it’s all in the guy’s ears and how he hears the shit. It’s not something so special that he’s doing to the drums that they not doing. You can use the same equipment that he uses, but he’s going to turn that button a little differently than you turn it, and make that shit sound different. That’s the key. That’s the key.
No matter who says this, or how many times it is said,
Somebody will overlook this and say Dre 'Steals'..
That's the most truth I've read on here in a long time. My ? is, if those guys make all those hit songs, how come they mostly fall off when they're not working with Dre?
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Props on the interview. Crazy he talking down on Daz, but I guess Daz was the only one who wouldn't just ride under Dre's wing and not say shit.
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I hope this interview wasn´t planned,damn... :P ;)
I appriciate the work and I know it ain´t your fault,
but damn I even submited questions for a "follow up" interview last time around.
All I can hope for now is that some of my questions got included anyway. :-\ :-\ (will check the interview now)
Edit;
As always you know your shit,props for that.
I enjoyed both your questions and answers ;)
Looking forward to part 2 ;)
Re: Interview With A Legend: The D.O.C. On Dubcnn « Reply #61 on: January 08, 2007, 12:29:58 PM »
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=130102.msg1369105#msg1369105
Follow up questions for your next interview with The D.O.C
-When you started working on Helter skelter for Dre,was Erotic D going to be part of the production for that album?
-Was the "new world" concept that you used for your
Helter Skelter album the same concept that you had planned for Dre & Cube's album?
-You produced some tracks Mc Breed & DFC,do you still do some beats,
or was that just some fun you was playing with back then?
-You wrote Guerrilla Pimpin' for Mc Breed on his Flatline album,but you used the same lyrics for your Deuce album with 6-2 performing them,diden't you like the Mc Breed version or did you like the lyrics so much that you wanted them on your album also?
-Are you still cool with Mc Breed?
-What's up with Erotic D?
-Will he ever get to release his The Black Bruce Willis album?
So Nima when are you gonna do the follow up interview you mentioned?
For more D.O.C check this thread out; (audio,reviews and interviews)
Southern Hydro (Big Mike and Six2) AKA The unofficial dubcc D.O.C thread
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=144128.25
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Dubcnn: Mel-Man was such a big part of 2001, then he just disappeared shortly after that. Now we’re hearing that he’s back, but no one I guess really knows. Can you confirm that?
Mel-Man is always around. But sometimes, and I’m going to say this as humbly as I can. Dre is a giver, and he will give you...like a lot of people always tend to give other folks credit ‘cause they’re around when shit is going down. But, if it come out of here, you can bet your last money Dre is on it so tough, that anybody else’s energy that would’ve been on it is being smothered. You understand? It’s no longer there. Like, if I found a sample and gave it to Dre, what he’s going to do with it is going to make it so different from what it was when I had it that in order for me to claim it, it would take a lot of nuts and a lot of pride. And pride is not good.
Dre is not in to ‘I did that’, because he already knows he did the shit. That’s the same shit used when Daz was around. It was supposed to be all Daz’s. I sit and watch these niggaz. They give the nigga [Dre] the drums and he takes them and builds them ‘cause they can’t do what Dre do. They don’t have his ears. So it’s all in the guy’s ears and how he hears the shit. It’s not something so special that he’s doing to the drums that they not doing. You can use the same equipment that he uses, but he’s going to turn that button a little differently than you turn it, and make that shit sound different. That’s the key. That’s the key.
No matter who says this, or how many times it is said,
Somebody will overlook this and say Dre 'Steals'..
That's the most truth I've read on here in a long time. My ? is, if those guys make all those hit songs, how come they mostly fall off when they're not working with Dre?
Well common sense will tell you that money talks and generally the people that are saying this are with Aftermath or real close to Dre. Same type of situation 50 cent had...G-Unit aint' gon talk down on him no matter what cause they know they better off with him then without. Now if you had any input in the production of a beat you should at least get partial credit as a co-producer or listed as "beat arranged by...beat mixed by. That is just good business and love, especially if you cool with the person. Bad business is when they sitting there eating off a classic beat that you help make for the rest of they life off royalties and you ain't getting shit cause your name ain't nowhere on the production. I think thats is where you get complaints from former guys like Daz.
You also have to realize most artist fall off with Dre or not with Dre anyway...thats a natural process. Its rare you see any emcee still spittin just as good as they did with delivery, hunger when they first started. Same with producers. Dre also has that machine and backing, but his work effort is in a class of its own anyway.
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one of the most humble down to earth dudes I ever meet
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Props for interview!!! Part 2 should be good as well ;)
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Keep your feedback coming!
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The D.O.C. is a gem in the game, no doubt...
Can't wait for the rest!
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Excellent interview!
Can't wait for pt 2!
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thanks a lot for this great interview! 8)
Dubcnn: Are we going to get a surprise 16 by you?
You know what? My “16’s” are all over the record. You won’t hear my voice, but *laughs*
:-X Dre needs to stop being so worried about how the D.O.C. sounds on the mic ::)
he's probably the only producer that i know of, who could produce the right music for the D.O.C.'s voice :-\
Dubcnn: After 2001, you hit us up with “Deuce”. Did you accomplish what you wanted to accomplish with that release? Do you feel good about that record?
You know what? I really felt good at the time, but “Deuce” was the result of an argument between me and Dre. That record was actually supposed to be an album on a guy called Six-Two, who was in my camp. But as we started building the album, it was coming through Aftermath, me and Dre got into an argument. So I just took my shit and left.
Dubcnn: Similar to what it was with the Helter Skelter project?
Well yeah. I told you we fuss, we fight; we’re brothers. But the Helter Skelter record was really Dre’s record, I just took it *laughs*.
Dubcnn: Just took it and ran with it!
Just took it and ran with it ‘cause I’m the only nigga that could do that! I relish my position as the man, next to the man goddamn it!
Dubcnn: On that Deuce record, that 1-2-3 Critical...that song was dope was ‘cause it reminded me of the Portrait Of A Masterpiece of your No One Can Do It Better album.
That’s exactly what it was! When I did Deuce, what I was trying to do was duplicate my years that I spent. I was trying to make a record that sort of encompassed all that time. And use all those artists the same way Dre used all the artists on the Chronic. But when I made the record, Dre was really adamant that I take my ass off that record. He wanted to take my voice off, and put his voice on it where ever I was. He was like, “nigga, I can make this a hit for you! You can get rich!” I was like, “I don’t want to be rich, I want to rap, nigga!” He said, “I can’t put it out like that.” We argued and fussed, so I finally just took my shit and left. But here 5, 6, 7 years later I realized that it was my pride and I was still trying to find that D.O.C. shit again. Even 20 years after the fact, not being able to rap is probably the toughest thing I’ve ever had to deal with. I mean, ‘cause I’m still better than all these muthafuckaz, man.
interesting, didn't know that Deuce was initially planned to be released through aftermath ( at least that's what the D.O.C. wanted).
well i'm glad the D.O.C. ran with it, as it wouldn't be released on aftermath anyway, unless it got changed heavily upon interscope's wishes.
perhaps he should do the same for the next album, just "borrow" beats from Dre ;D
I hope this interview wasn´t planned,damn... :P ;)
I appriciate the work and I know it ain´t your fault,
but damn I even submited questions for a "follow up" interview last time around.
So Nima when are you gonna do the follow up interview you mentioned?
but Chad, as far as i know, they didn't provide an opportunity to submit questions for a next D.O.C. interview;
offcourse that's a disappointment but you can't blame them for it ;)
anyway, looking forward to reading part 2 8)
Noncentz, any chance that you could provide an audio file of phone interviews in the future like the other staffmembers often do?
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the D.O.C is the only reliable person when it comes to Detox release date .. so who knows , we might have a huge surprise at the end of 08
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the D.O.C is the only reliable person when it comes to Detox release date .. so who knows , we might have a huge surprise at the end of 08
i wouldn't say that, just like Dre he made a few false predictions :laugh: ;)
but let's hope it drops at the end of this year ;)
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props for this, gonna chck it out soon
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Dubcnn: Are we going to get a surprise 16 by you?
You know what? My “16’s” are all over the record. You won’t hear my voice, but *laughs*
:-X Dre needs to stop being so worried about how the D.O.C. sounds on the mic ::)
he's probably the only producer that i know of, who could produce the right music for the D.O.C.'s voice :-\
agree that Dre should not be worried,if Dre was indy it would probably be another scenario.
Numbers wouldn´t matter as much.
But you forgot (for a minute) that Erotic D did a hell of a job on Helter Skelter.
Dubcnn: After 2001, you hit us up with “Deuce”. Did you accomplish what you wanted to accomplish with that release?
Do you feel good about that record?
You know what? I really felt good at the time, but “Deuce” was the result of an argument between me and Dre. That record was actually supposed to be an album on a guy called Six-Two, who was in my camp. But as we started building the album, it was coming through Aftermath, me and Dre got into an argument. So I just took my shit and left.
Dubcnn: Similar to what it was with the Helter Skelter project?
Well yeah. I told you we fuss, we fight; we’re brothers. But the Helter Skelter record was really Dre’s record, I just took it *laughs*.
Dubcnn: Just took it and ran with it!
Just took it and ran with it ‘cause I’m the only nigga that could do that! I relish my position as the man, next to the man goddamn it!
Dubcnn: On that Deuce record, that 1-2-3 Critical...that song was dope was ‘cause it reminded me of the Portrait Of A Masterpiece of your No One Can Do It Better album.
That’s exactly what it was! When I did Deuce, what I was trying to do was duplicate my years that I spent. I was trying to make a record that sort of encompassed all that time. And use all those artists the same way Dre used all the artists on the Chronic. But when I made the record, Dre was really adamant that I take my ass off that record. He wanted to take my voice off, and put his voice on it where ever I was. He was like, “nigga, I can make this a hit for you! You can get rich!” I was like, “I don’t want to be rich, I want to rap, nigga!” He said, “I can’t put it out like that.” We argued and fussed, so I finally just took my shit and left. But here 5, 6, 7 years later I realized that it was my pride and I was still trying to find that D.O.C. shit again. Even 20 years after the fact, not being able to rap is probably the toughest thing I’ve ever had to deal with. I mean, ‘cause I’m still better than all these muthafuckaz, man.
interesting, didn't know that Deuce was initially planned to be released through aftermath
( at least that's what the D.O.C. wanted).
well i'm glad the D.O.C. ran with it, as it wouldn't be released on aftermath anyway,
unless it got changed heavily upon interscope's wishes.
perhaps he should do the same for the next album, just "borrow" beats from Dre ;D
interesting indeed ;)
yes,a D.O.C album overseen by Jimmy´s bitch ass will be a disaster :P >:( >:( >:( >:(
I hope this interview wasn´t planned,damn... :P ;)
I appriciate the work and I know it ain´t your fault,
but damn I even submited questions for a "follow up" interview last time around.
So Nima when are you gonna do the follow up interview you mentioned?
but Chad, as far as i know, they didn't provide an opportunity to submit questions for a next D.O.C. interview;
offcourse that's a disappointment but you can't blame them for it ;)
if that´s the case,I got no problem with it. ;)
It´s just that there has been way too many interviews done without involving the dubCC community lately.
That´s the main reason I signed up. :P ;) ;)
I actually signed up to submit questions for the follow interview with D.O.C,Nima mentioned (in the previous D.O.C interview thread).
but i will be hooking up for a follow up interview soon enough.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=130102.msg1348710#msg1348710
...and to submit questions for a RBX interview that never went down :-\ (I know it´s RBX´s fault) >:( >:(
Re: QUESTIONS FOR DPG RBX INTERVIEW IN JANUARY
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=129535.msg1552016#msg1552016
"We" missed out on Cold 187,yes Nima... you explained why ;) ;) (it´s all good)
Some things is arranged at the last minute so I understand. ;)
anyway, looking forward to reading part 2 8)
Noncentz, any chance that you could provide an audio file of phone interviews in the future like the other staffmembers often do?
That would be dope. ;)
I really enjoyed Nima´s 187 audio and Yash´s Kokane audio.
Keep em coming ;)
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Props for the interview 8) Detox this summer ::)
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Great, will check this out right now.
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Dubcnn: Are we going to get a surprise 16 by you?
You know what? My “16’s” are all over the record. You won’t hear my voice, but *laughs*
:-X Dre needs to stop being so worried about how the D.O.C. sounds on the mic ::)
he's probably the only producer that i know of, who could produce the right music for the D.O.C.'s voice :-\
agree that Dre should not be worried,if Dre was indy it would probably be another scenario.
Numbers wouldn´t matter as much.
But you forgot (for a minute) that Erotic D did a hell of a job on Helter Skelter.
nah i didn't forget about it, but Dre would have never given the D.O.C. a beat like the Crazy Bitchez one ;)
or let him do such horrible singing :P
I hope this interview wasn´t planned,damn... :P ;)
I appriciate the work and I know it ain´t your fault,
but damn I even submited questions for a "follow up" interview last time around.
So Nima when are you gonna do the follow up interview you mentioned?
but Chad, as far as i know, they didn't provide an opportunity to submit questions for a next D.O.C. interview;
offcourse that's a disappointment but you can't blame them for it ;)
if that´s the case,I got no problem with it. ;)
It´s just that there has been way too many interviews done without involving the dubCC community lately.
That´s the main reason I signed up. :P ;) ;)
I actually signed up to submit questions for the follow interview with D.O.C,Nima mentioned (in the previous D.O.C interview thread).
but i will be hooking up for a follow up interview soon enough.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=130102.msg1348710#msg1348710
i understand ;)
by the way, my bad for not knowing that Nima was planning a followup interview at that time :P
Detox this summer ::)
Dubcnn: Well, I know you’re in the studio right now, so what’s going on in there?
We trying to get this Detox record finished, man, this summer. We trying to get it ready everyday. They call it the most anticipated blah, blah, blah, blah. So, we’re trying to make sure it’s worth the wait.
::)
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Helter Skelter was an awesome album. I like the way DOC sounds on the mic. Really gritty and stuff, it's a different sound. Dre's stupid for telling DOC not to rap anymore. If DOC doesn't spit anything on his new CD (Voice Through Hot Vessels), i'mma be dissapointed.....just like I was with Deuce.
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-Thanks for all the feed back! We touch on a variety of topics in Part 2....you won't be disappointed! 8)
-We touch on Breed (Chad Vader), more on Detox, his album....I don't want to give too much away, but it's dope!
-As soon as I update my equipment, I will post audio of the interviews I do....
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-Thanks for all the feed back! We touch on a variety of topics in Part 2....you won't be disappointed! 8)
-We touch on Breed (Chad Vader), more on Detox, his album....I don't want to give too much away, but it's dope!
-As soon as I update my equipment, I will post audio of the interviews I do....
that's good to hear 8)
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-Thanks for all the feed back! We touch on a variety of topics in Part 2....you won't be disappointed! 8)
-We touch on Breed (Chad Vader), more on Detox, his album....I don't want to give too much away, but it's dope!
-my previous reply was about not "letting" the dubcc community submiting questions.
Not about you,hope you know that ;).
I know that you know your shit,that´s pretty obvious from all the interviews you done so far.
I hope you asked about this,since it you "forgot" to ask Breed about it ;)
-You wrote Guerrilla Pimpin' for Mc Breed on his Flatline album,
but you used the same lyrics for your Deuce album with 6-2 performing them,
diden't you like the Mc Breed version or did you like the lyrics so much that you wanted them on your album also?
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=130102.msg1369105#msg1369105
-As soon as I update my equipment, I will post audio of the interviews I do....
Nice ;)
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U da man Chad, this was a great interview! Good to see the DOC checking back in with DUBCNN!
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That DOC album idea is great!
So while sipping on grapefruit juice and having coconut cereal on some Hawaiin beach before going to work (Detox), DOC convinces Andre to get involved in this project of his.
Cube, Snoop and countless others will all be willing to help out their old pal (and rap over Dre beats) and certain MC's like from the Bone crew or Twista will be able to rap at supersonic speeds as the DOC used to.
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That DOC album idea is great!
So while sipping on grapefruit juice and having coconut cereal on some Hawaiin beach before going to work (Detox), DOC convinces Andre to get involved in this project of his.
Cube, Snoop and countless others will all be willing to help out their old pal (and rap over Dre beats) and certain MC's like from the Bone crew or Twista will be able to rap at supersonic speeds as the DOC used to.
Fuck, I would kill for a N.W.A reunion, even for a one song.
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Good to see an Interview with tha LEGOND!
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D.O.C. is a true legend. His debut album introduced us to the Rakim of the West Coast. The accident was one of the saddest things that ever happened to the rap industry, especially the West. He could've become as big as Snoop, Dre and Pac with his amazing talent, lyrical skills and unique delivery.
Anyway, it's good to see him around, writing for other guys.
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The D.O.C could have truly been a top 5 GOAT MC! ma'dude was sick.
I like how he still says he's better than everyone ( debatable ) ....maybe you can ask him why Ice Cube came harder than him on the only two songs they did together - Grand Finale, Parental Discretion Iz Advised.
MC Breeze from LA Posse was nice on the mic too during that era. His verse on Played Like A Piano was sick as hell! Cube went hard too
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great interview. If Detox gets finished by the summer as DOC stated that they are trying to do, even late summer August into September the album "should" be out by November/December. I am still holding out hope but if it gets released early next year its ok as well
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great interview. If Detox gets finished by the summer as DOC stated that they are trying to do, even late summer August into September the album "should" be out by November/December. I am still holding out hope but if it gets released early next year its ok as well
yeah i wouldn't be very angry if it turns out that they decide to release it next year.
it's just that i suspect that it will be pushed back a couple of months, based on the sales argument you provided in an other topic some time ago ( relatively low sales in the 1st quarter) and that would be very disappointing to me :P
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great interview. If Detox gets finished by the summer as DOC stated that they are trying to do, even late summer August into September the album "should" be out by November/December. I am still holding out hope but if it gets released early next year its ok as well
yeah i wouldn't be very angry if it turns out that they decide to release it next year.
it's just that i suspect that it will be pushed back a couple of months, based on the sales argument you provided in an other topic some time ago ( relatively low sales in the 1st quarter) and that would be very disappointing to me :P
I think there is a 50/50 chance right now, who really knows I am guessing really but I hope it comes out by the end of the year as well. The vibe I got reading the interview makes me hopefull that they are trying to finish it up
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Kool Interv. We need to keep the OG'z in the Spotlight!!!!
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Good to see an Interview with tha LEGOND!
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props for the interview.
i've re-read the interview from 1 and a half year ago and the DOC was pretty much saying the same thing : can't rap anymore, detox this summer, voices through hot vessels, a DOC movie, controversy on dre stealing beats from colleagues, feelings on the Deuce album.
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d.o.c. Should retire he has no buz at all
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d.o.c. Should retire he has no buz at all
Fuck you! You shouldn't quit making albums just because you ain't Lil Wackie from the mainstream kindergarden...
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d.o.c. Should retire he has no buz at all
Hahahahahaha, very clever joke, I like it - making fun of all those retarded hiphop fans who don't know shit about real MCs and think legends should 'retire'
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d.o.c. Should retire he has no buz at all
Fuck you! You shouldn't quit making albums just because you ain't Lil Wackie from the mainstream kindergarden...
I think dude was being ironic lol. At least I hope so.
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props for the interview.
i've re-read the interview from 1 and a half year ago and the DOC was pretty much saying the same thing : can't rap anymore, detox this summer, voices through hot vessels, a DOC movie, controversy on dre stealing beats from colleagues, feelings on the Deuce album.
the D.O.C. told some new things in part 1; yeah similar topics were discussed so i see your point but i don't consider that a bad thing ( he already told the story about which rapper Dre thinks that sounds beat on his beats though; i think it was in the interview with thaformula.com).
besides, don't forget about part 2 ;)
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props for the interview.
i've re-read the interview from 1 and a half year ago and the DOC was pretty much saying the same thing : can't rap anymore, detox this summer, voices through hot vessels, a DOC movie, controversy on dre stealing beats from colleagues, feelings on the Deuce album.
besides, don't forget about part 2 ;)
which is coming this week...!
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props for the interview.
i've re-read the interview from 1 and a half year ago and the DOC was pretty much saying the same thing : can't rap anymore, detox this summer, voices through hot vessels, a DOC movie, controversy on dre stealing beats from colleagues, feelings on the Deuce album.
besides, don't forget about part 2 ;)
which is coming this week...!
that's good to hear 8)
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props for the interview.
i've re-read the interview from 1 and a half year ago and the DOC was pretty much saying the same thing : can't rap anymore, detox this summer, voices through hot vessels, a DOC movie, controversy on dre stealing beats from colleagues, feelings on the Deuce album.
besides, don't forget about part 2 ;)
which is coming this week...!
dope
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hope Ren gona be on that shit 8)
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Nice interview.