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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on September 20, 2008, 03:50:45 PM
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The Long Beach group FrattHouse just hit us up with a new track called "New West", which is sure to raise a few eyebrows. FrattHouse consists of G.B. (the son of RBX) and E-Money (cousin of Snoop Dogg).
On "New West", they use a part of dubcnn's Ice Cube interview, where Cube is asked about getting behind a new artist. FrattHouse break down their problems with the old school artists on the West Coast and explain why it's time for the New West. The track was produced by up and coming producer Amplified, who you probably know through his work with Battlecat.
I'm gonna let you check it out yourselves, listen to "New West" below:
FrattHouse - New West (Prod. by Amplified) (http://www.dubcnn.com/media/audio/fratthouse-newwest)
We've also got another FrattHouse joint for ya'll, this is the single off their upcoming album "FrattHouse University" which will be dropping in the first quarter of '09. This one was produced by G-Flow:
FrattHouse - Hot For Real (Prod. by G-Flow) (http://www.dubcnn.com/media/audio/fratthouse-hotforreal)
"FrattHouse University" is set to feature Glasses Malone, Daz Dillinger, Junior, G-Style and Pr1me. You can also download their latest mixtape over at the Relic Ent website, and look out for their upcoming mixtape "Beats And Lyrics".
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Thanks for this.
I'd like to know what exactly separates this so-called "New West" from the "O.G. West" besides the obvious? I mean what exactly is it that the New West wants from the O.G. West? No disrespect to either side in this debate, but I'm just curious what exactly the problem is?
Here's my take on it so far. Even if the "New West" was asking "O.G. West" to help put them on, there still isn't enough interest outside of the West Coast that would make too much of a difference in the greater hip hop scene, IMO. Snoop ain't selling what he used to, so his popularity has waned over the years. Cube also. Game, while I don't consider him "New West" or "O.G. West" is also starting to feel the pinch in shortage of sales and popularity.
In a current market where the South is where it's at, I gotta ask, what good is it for the New West to ask O.G. West for support when the O.G. West is also struggling to gain any form of recognition nowadays? Again, no disrespect, just calling it like it is.
Lastly, I'm all for unity on the West, so maybe if the West could reunite and squash their differences FOR REAL this time, then maybe they can mount a unified comeback in the hip hop scene. No need to keep tearing each other down, especially when the market doesn't favor any of you at the moment. Sure not everyone is selling like they used to, but the South still got it on lock. Radio, TV & print media are obvious indicators of that.
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these niggaz are wacc
why would anybody wanna help these clowns out... just cuz you rap dont mean you deserve to be heard
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these niggaz are wacc
why would anybody wanna help these clowns out... just cuz you rap dont mean you deserve to be heard
lmfao +1 if i could do it, i was waiting for someone to say that!
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Props to the Fratthouse!
New West... We all we Got!!!!!
I'd like to know what exactly separates this so-called "New West" from the "O.G. West" besides the obvious? I mean what exactly is it that the New West wants from the O.G. West? No disrespect to either side in this debate, but I'm just curious what exactly the problem is?
Its pretty deep! Sure u wanna kno?
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break it down for us glasses, lots of us wanna know! I feel what ya'll talking about these og cats on some other shit having my own aspiring camp out west also. I heard that cube interview and when he said that shit it made a nigga think hella different about dude, shit had a nigga shaking his head. Like I cant see why nobody would hate on you for going down south to get a deal, cuz thats what we tryna do and so are hella other west cats. Cuz these niggas out here ain't tryna show no love.
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Props to the Fratthouse!
New West... We all we Got!!!!!
I'd like to know what exactly separates this so-called "New West" from the "O.G. West" besides the obvious? I mean what exactly is it that the New West wants from the O.G. West? No disrespect to either side in this debate, but I'm just curious what exactly the problem is?
Its pretty deep! Sure u wanna kno?
Yeah man, spill it if you can. I realize airing shit out over a forum with random strangers might not be the best place to do it, but I won't be mad either way. But yeah nigga, feel free to enlighten us over here. What really is the deal?
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I'll check these tracks out.
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www.dubcnn.com
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The Long Beach group FrattHouse just hit us up with a new track called "New West", which is sure to raise a few eyebrows. FrattHouse consists of G.B. (the son of RBX) and E-Money (cousin of Snoop Dogg).
lol...How many more family members does Snoop have in the Rap Game??? :P :P
I'll check those records out.thanks!
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This Is The FrattHouse Live An Direct...We Put It Like This,Look At All The Other Coast How Some Of Them Might Not Be Cool Wit Eachother But They Still Putin They Folks Out An Maken Money Wit Eachother You See A New South Nigga Or EastCoast Nigga Come Out EveryDay Some Might Be Wacc But They Still Put Em Out.Now Look At The West An What's The Same Faces You Been Seein For The Last 10 Years????....Digg What We Talkin Bout.....Niggas On The West Only Out For ThemSelf Scared These New Niggas Gone Knocc Em Out The Game,But If They Only Knew If They Get Behind These Young Niggas They Gone Make Money Just Like Us Plus Make Them Look Even Bigger As An Artist Plus As A Bizness Man Point Blank!!!!....FrattHouse Over An Out!...New Sound New Faces New West.G.Malone Bishop Lamont FrattHouse Got Ya"ll Bacc Now Let's Ride!
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OUT WITH THE OLD .......................IN WITH THE NEW WEST
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was up fratthouse!!any chance to hook us up with that self titled album from back in a day.i saw review in VIBE and i think that album was never released?
peace
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www.dubcnn.com
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The Long Beach group FrattHouse just hit us up with a new track called "New West", which is sure to raise a few eyebrows. FrattHouse consists of G.B. (the son of RBX) and E-Money (cousin of Snoop Dogg).
lol...How many more family members does Snoop have in the Rap Game??? :P :P
Propably more than wu-tang clan members as a person...and there is lots of.
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lol... As a follower of all coasts, I can say the problems u guys are having and the mentality u take about it, are the same as all the other regions.
Have you heard of Saigon? Papoose?
They are east coast artists who are also having trouble getting labels to believe in them and support them...
Is it Busta Rhymes fault? Is it LL Cool J's fault?
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www.dubcnn.com
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The Long Beach group FrattHouse just hit us up with a new track called "New West", which is sure to raise a few eyebrows. FrattHouse consists of G.B. (the son of RBX) and E-Money (cousin of Snoop Dogg).
lol...How many more family members does Snoop have in the Rap Game??? :P :P
Propably more than wu-tang clan members as a person...and there is lots of.
..lol..Probably!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
The record is nice!
Nice laidback beat!
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lol... As a follower of all coasts, I can say the problems u guys are having and the mentality u take about it, are the same as all the other regions.
Have you heard of Saigon? Papoose?
They are east coast artists who are also having trouble getting labels to believe in them and support them...
Is it Busta Rhymes fault? Is it LL Cool J's fault?
True!!!
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This Is The FrattHouse Live An Direct...We Put It Like This,Look At All The Other Coast How Some Of Them Might Not Be Cool Wit Eachother But They Still Putin They Folks Out An Maken Money Wit Eachother You See A New South Nigga Or EastCoast Nigga Come Out EveryDay Some Might Be Wacc But They Still Put Em Out.Now Look At The West An What's The Same Faces You Been Seein For The Last 10 Years????....Digg What We Talkin Bout.....Niggas On The West Only Out For ThemSelf Scared These New Niggas Gone Knocc Em Out The Game,But If They Only Knew If They Get Behind These Young Niggas They Gone Make Money Just Like Us Plus Make Them Look Even Bigger As An Artist Plus As A Bizness Man Point Blank!!!!....FrattHouse Over An Out!...New Sound New Faces New West.G.Malone Bishop Lamont FrattHouse Got Ya"ll Bacc Now Let's Ride!
you are wrong & havve hte wrong mentallity . the old west never had any help to get on . so why should you? if they can do it on there own , then you should have to . stop asking for everything to be given to you like you deserve it for free . the old west paid more dues & are never ever scared to These New Niggas Gone Knocc Em Out The Game because the new west can't do it by theirself .bishop has dr dre's help & gmaone has mack 10's help. fuck this new west bullshit anyways . there is one west & it is only west coast not new west or old west .just west coast.i ce cube iright about new west . stop asking for everthing to be given to you free & easy . life is hard & you have to work your ass off just lkje the original west coast did with no help.
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This New West thing been here for some time now, its evolving into a movement now, and its cool cause they are tellin the truth. Dudes know what they talk about when they say FUCK THAT OLD NI**A, its not like FrattHouse mentioned this first. U can hear G MALONE, BISHOP LAMONT, CROOKED I, YOUNG HOGGZ, TEHNIEC - DC GANG and many more...all them dudes are speaking the truth for some time about this situation.
You can check that NEW WEST PARTY video that was uploaded here or on WCRYDAZ year ago..
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This Is The FrattHouse Live An Direct...We Put It Like This,Look At All The Other Coast How Some Of Them Might Not Be Cool Wit Eachother But They Still Putin They Folks Out An Maken Money Wit Eachother You See A New South Nigga Or EastCoast Nigga Come Out EveryDay Some Might Be Wacc But They Still Put Em Out.Now Look At The West An What's The Same Faces You Been Seein For The Last 10 Years????....Digg What We Talkin Bout.....Niggas On The West Only Out For ThemSelf Scared These New Niggas Gone Knocc Em Out The Game,But If They Only Knew If They Get Behind These Young Niggas They Gone Make Money Just Like Us Plus Make Them Look Even Bigger As An Artist Plus As A Bizness Man Point Blank!!!!....FrattHouse Over An Out!...New Sound New Faces New West.G.Malone Bishop Lamont FrattHouse Got Ya"ll Bacc Now Let's Ride!
you are wrong & havve hte wrong mentallity . the old west never had any help to get on . so why should you? if they can do it on there own , then you should have to . stop asking for everything to be given to you like you deserve it for free . the old west paid more dues & are never ever scared to These New Niggas Gone Knocc Em Out The Game because the new west can't do it by theirself .bishop has dr dre's help & gmaone has mack 10's help. fuck this new west bullshit anyways . there is one west & it is only west coast not new west or old west .just west coast.i ce cube iright about new west . stop asking for everthing to be given to you free & easy . life is hard & you have to work your ass off just lkje the original west coast did with no help.
You got a point there!!
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This Is The FrattHouse Live An Direct...We Put It Like This,Look At All The Other Coast How Some Of Them Might Not Be Cool Wit Eachother But They Still Putin They Folks Out An Maken Money Wit Eachother You See A New South Nigga Or EastCoast Nigga Come Out EveryDay Some Might Be Wacc But They Still Put Em Out.Now Look At The West An What's The Same Faces You Been Seein For The Last 10 Years????....Digg What We Talkin Bout.....Niggas On The West Only Out For ThemSelf Scared These New Niggas Gone Knocc Em Out The Game,But If They Only Knew If They Get Behind These Young Niggas They Gone Make Money Just Like Us Plus Make Them Look Even Bigger As An Artist Plus As A Bizness Man Point Blank!!!!....FrattHouse Over An Out!...New Sound New Faces New West.G.Malone Bishop Lamont FrattHouse Got Ya"ll Bacc Now Let's Ride!
you are wrong & havve hte wrong mentallity . the old west never had any help to get on . so why should you? if they can do it on there own , then you should have to . stop asking for everything to be given to you like you deserve it for free . the old west paid more dues & are never ever scared to These New Niggas Gone Knocc Em Out The Game because the new west can't do it by theirself .bishop has dr dre's help & gmaone has mack 10's help. fuck this new west bullshit anyways . there is one west & it is only west coast not new west or old west .just west coast.i ce cube iright about new west . stop asking for everthing to be given to you free & easy . life is hard & you have to work your ass off just lkje the original west coast did with no help.
I couldnt agree more. To me theres no "New West", its just the West! Plain and simple. You cut your own deals and create your own breaks in life.
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these niggaz are wacc
why would anybody wanna help these clowns out... just cuz you rap dont mean you deserve to be heard
Real spit...
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This Is The FrattHouse Live An Direct...We Put It Like This,Look At All The Other Coast How Some Of Them Might Not Be Cool Wit Eachother But They Still Putin They Folks Out An Maken Money Wit Eachother You See A New South Nigga Or EastCoast Nigga Come Out EveryDay Some Might Be Wacc But They Still Put Em Out.Now Look At The West An What's The Same Faces You Been Seein For The Last 10 Years????....Digg What We Talkin Bout.....Niggas On The West Only Out For ThemSelf Scared These New Niggas Gone Knocc Em Out The Game,But If They Only Knew If They Get Behind These Young Niggas They Gone Make Money Just Like Us Plus Make Them Look Even Bigger As An Artist Plus As A Bizness Man Point Blank!!!!....FrattHouse Over An Out!...New Sound New Faces New West.G.Malone Bishop Lamont FrattHouse Got Ya"ll Bacc Now Let's Ride!
you are wrong & havve hte wrong mentallity . the old west never had any help to get on . so why should you? if they can do it on there own , then you should have to . stop asking for everything to be given to you like you deserve it for free . the old west paid more dues & are never ever scared to These New Niggas Gone Knocc Em Out The Game because the new west can't do it by theirself .bishop has dr dre's help & gmaone has mack 10's help. fuck this new west bullshit anyways . there is one west & it is only west coast not new west or old west .just west coast.i ce cube iright about new west . stop asking for everthing to be given to you free & easy . life is hard & you have to work your ass off just lkje the original west coast did with no help.
im co-signing!!!!
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Seems like The Fratthouse has been indulging in too much beer pong to think clearly. Like Bishop said, "Grow Up."
The big dogs on the West are scared of you little twerps knocking them out the game? Where do you ignorant, lobotomized, fools come up with this stuff? Are you also stand-up comedians? Do for self or find another vocation.
Good luck, guys you're going to need it more than Travis Barker and DJ AM.
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Seems like The Fratthouse has been indulging in too much beer pong to think clearly. Like Bishop said, "Grow Up."
The big dogs on the West are scared of you little twerps knocking them out the game? Where do you ignorant, lobotomized, fools come up with this stuff? Are you also stand-up comedians? Do for self or find another vocation.
Good luck, guys you're going to need it more than Travis Barker and DJ AM.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
the sarcasm was on point 8)
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So let me get this right. It shouldn't be a problem when the OG"s on the west won't help bring new artists into the game? No one is looking for a hand out but didn't TI bring out Dro and PSC? Didn't Jay bring in Siegel, kanye,etc. These guys are business men who will eventually sit on there ass and collect money off of the new blood they bring in. There are icons on the west coast that call our radio stations and stop new west artists albums from being played when the start to blow up. If a coast lacks new blood it will die. u think the west coast is not getting spun just because everyone hates us? No! WE HAVE TO EVOLVE! Niggas been rappin about the same shit since NWA dropped boys in the hood. So if cats wanna ride the old wests dick and be resistant to change than die with the coast. Fratthouse is far from whack and Bishop ,glasses,and crooked are amazing as well. There will be a west devide until the old west recognizes the younstaz. The new west is a factor......
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I'm all for the New West taking over, but these niggas suck!
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No disrespect cuz I'm a Snoop Dogg fan, but a lot of y'all saying that the O.G.'s didn't have anyone to put them on isn't all true.
No Dr. Dre = No Snoop Dogg.
If it wasn't for the Warren G connection, who knows if there would've been a Doggystyle album? More than likely not. The scene would've looked different, that's for sure.
But that's beside the point I came in here to make. What I wanna know is what exactly does the New West mean when they say the O.G.'s aren't reaching back? I mean what does reaching back entail? I'm all for O.G.'s acknowledging, putting in a good word on a new cat's behalf and maybe some other added benefits to boost the young' en's industry profile, but that's it. I mean nobody should expect an automatic handout.
What y'all have to remember is that in order for any new generation coming up trying to make it, the O.G.'s do have to open the door and show them some game. That goes for everything in life, not just rap. But because rap is still considered new by our generational standards, the O.G.'s are considered the founding fathers of the genre, so it's inevitable that there's going to be some sort of backlash for various reasons on who gets in and who doesn't so to speak. Darwin's law comes to mind in this instance. But to a certain degree, nepotism and depotism aka "who you know" is also key in making it in any business.
So my question for the New West is this, what exactly do you feel entitled to from the O.G.'s? What are your expectations of them?
Let's define these things before we all go off on an uninformed rant here. I'd like to also hear from the O.G. side of this little issue as well. There are 2-sides to everything, so if someone from the O.G. side wants to share their side of the story, then that'd be helpful as well.
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yall are reading into this a little too much.
this new west shit is starting to sound more like a marketing tool.
although i appreciate new artists coming in and changing out the musical
landscape for westcoast hip hop, i don't think it's necessary to get that acknowledgment
from the older artists. these newer artists are much more talented lyrically and
are coming with dope shit.
i think everybody on the west, should just go independent.
fuck a major label, rap sales aren't there anymore.
and fuck bringing the west coast back in the mainstream.
people already dick ride our shit enough.
lets keep it independent and keep putting out quality music instead.
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So let me get this right. It shouldn't be a problem when the OG"s on the west won't help bring new artists into the game? No one is looking for a hand out but didn't TI bring out Dro and PSC? Didn't Jay bring in Siegel, kanye,etc. These guys are business men who will eventually sit on there ass and collect money off of the new blood they bring in. There are icons on the west coast that call our radio stations and stop new west artists albums from being played when the start to blow up. If a coast lacks new blood it will die. u think the west coast is not getting spun just because everyone hates us? No! WE HAVE TO EVOLVE! Niggas been rappin about the same shit since NWA dropped boys in the hood. So if cats wanna ride the old wests dick and be resistant to change than die with the coast. Fratthouse is far from whack and Bishop ,glasses,and crooked are amazing as well. There will be a west devide until the old west recognizes the younstaz. The new west is a factor......
Man... are you refering to ice cube?, the same hommie who brought us yo-yo, threat, lench mob, kam, k-dee, kausion, del the funky homosapiens, etc... and introduced us to mack 10, whose protegee is g malone, right?... and still u saying he aint brought shit to the table... don't share that point of view. To me, Ice cube just got frustrated of putting people down and then getting all dissapointed, like in kam's case. Maybe it aint he has no time to, he just aint got the feeling to.... all the people mentioned above made him lose it.... peace from EL SALVADOR...
oralinsky compadrinskys
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So let me get this right. It shouldn't be a problem when the OG"s on the west won't help bring new artists into the game? No one is looking for a hand out but didn't TI bring out Dro and PSC? Didn't Jay bring in Siegel, kanye,etc. These guys are business men who will eventually sit on there ass and collect money off of the new blood they bring in. There are icons on the west coast that call our radio stations and stop new west artists albums from being played when the start to blow up. If a coast lacks new blood it will die. u think the west coast is not getting spun just because everyone hates us? No! WE HAVE TO EVOLVE! Niggas been rappin about the same shit since NWA dropped boys in the hood. So if cats wanna ride the old wests dick and be resistant to change than die with the coast. Fratthouse is far from whack and Bishop ,glasses,and crooked are amazing as well. There will be a west devide until the old west recognizes the younstaz. The new west is a factor......
Man... are you refering to ice cube?, the same hommie who brought us yo-yo, threat, lench mob, kam, k-dee, kausion, del the funky homosapiens, etc... and introduced us to mack 10, whose protegee is g malone, right?... and still u saying he aint brought shit to the table... don't share that point of view. To me, Ice cube just got frustrated of putting people down and then getting all dissapointed, like in kam's case. Maybe it aint he has no time to, he just aint got the feeling to.... all the people mentioned above made him lose it.... peace from EL SALVADOR...
oralinsky compadrinskys
Thanx for the 80's/90's reminder. look it's 2008. No doubt he brought some folks in but I don't know how well versed u are in business but a few of the artists you mentioned still are shitting blood from those deals. Anyhow this is about the here and now. The west had a pulse back then, we are dead right now. Frustrated or not the west needs the OG's to stand by 'em. By the way I just love how the artists you mentioned are just prospering right now hahahahahaha! Peace from Long Beach.......
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I RESPECT THE OLD BUT YOU GOTTA MAKE WAY FOR THE NEW...IT'S LIKE OUR O.G RAP NIGGAZ OVER HERE DON'T KNO WHEN TO HANG IT UP...IT'S LIKE TARNISHIN YOUR LEGACY...ITS LIKE AN TRIPLE O.G TRYNA GO HAND'S WITH THE WILDEST Y.G FROM HIS HIS SET IN THE OCTAGON,HE GONNA TAPOUT!!!LOL BUT FA REAL 8)
WE KNO YOU ONLY IN THE SET ON HOOD....YOU A FAMILY MAN NOW....LET US RUN THE HOOD BECAUSE WE HERE IN THE HOOD...TRANSLATION YA'LL NOT IN THE STREET'S NO MORE AND SOME OF THEM NEVA WAS,IT'S OUR TURN TO FEAST! ;D
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So let me get this right. It shouldn't be a problem when the OG"s on the west won't help bring new artists into the game? No one is looking for a hand out but didn't TI bring out Dro and PSC? Didn't Jay bring in Siegel, kanye,etc. These guys are business men who will eventually sit on there ass and collect money off of the new blood they bring in. There are icons on the west coast that call our radio stations and stop new west artists albums from being played when the start to blow up. If a coast lacks new blood it will die. u think the west coast is not getting spun just because everyone hates us? No! WE HAVE TO EVOLVE! Niggas been rappin about the same shit since NWA dropped boys in the hood. So if cats wanna ride the old wests dick and be resistant to change than die with the coast. Fratthouse is far from whack and Bishop ,glasses,and crooked are amazing as well. There will be a west devide until the old west recognizes the younstaz. The new west is a factor......
Man... are you refering to ice cube?, the same hommie who brought us yo-yo, threat, lench mob, kam, k-dee, kausion, del the funky homosapiens, etc... and introduced us to mack 10, whose protegee is g malone, right?... and still u saying he aint brought shit to the table... don't share that point of view. To me, Ice cube just got frustrated of putting people down and then getting all dissapointed, like in kam's case. Maybe it aint he has no time to, he just aint got the feeling to.... all the people mentioned above made him lose it.... peace from EL SALVADOR...
oralinsky compadrinskys
Thanx for the 80's/90's reminder. look it's 2008. No doubt he brought some folks in but I don't know how well versed u are in business but a few of the artists you mentioned still are shitting blood from those deals. Anyhow this is about the here and now. The west had a pulse back then, we are dead right now. Frustrated or not the west needs the OG's to stand by 'em. By the way I just love how the artists you mentioned are just prospering right now hahahahahaha! Peace from Long Beach.......
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Hey, he's standing up for the west coast, as always, U hear on his interview when he says, "they never (the media) given a fuck 'bout the west coast, so I got used to it ", It is not cube fault the whole coast went down outta coast, all new west coast breed rappers got the media against them, not the og rappers... u wanna know how these new rappers gonna blow up, releasing that dope shit these old rappers released back in the years, because of that the west got put on, it takes the same for these new cats. By the way I ainīt mentioned the dope, wee, they are... I love the west, forever, and its always gonna be for cats like cube. The west is been dead for a while now, the 2000's aint been the best years, cube just came back with laugh now, and went gold independently, as old as he is. These new cats got to force themselves to come out hot and dope, nevermind the media and stand up for the west coast... It has to be heart over money, dont u think?, if they managed to have both.. they on some shit... im out dog
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One mo thing... these so-called old west vrs new west issue aint bringin nothing good for the coast... in fact, dont you all think that was the reason why the west went down?, beef?... I know thats the cali way, bangin no matter whom, but just think all the beefs back in the day among west coasters and they had to deal with the east coast shit as well.
Divide and conquer. West coast please, UNITE. I miss you.
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PROPS TO FRATTHOUSE, they got the balls to say what all of us are really thinking! Im diggin' the new west rappers.
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yall are reading into this a little too much.
this new west shit is starting to sound more like a marketing tool.
although i appreciate new artists coming in and changing out the musical
landscape for westcoast hip hop, i don't think it's necessary to get that acknowledgment
from the older artists. these newer artists are much more talented lyrically and
are coming with dope shit.
i think everybody on the west, should just go independent.
fuck a major label, rap sales aren't there anymore.
and fuck bringing the west coast back in the mainstream.
people already dick ride our shit enough.
lets keep it independent and keep putting out quality music instead.
no, to my knowledge, "The New West" means that sound that you hear on the west coast that doesn't sound like the "typical west coast", and alot of people from about 28 and down are doing it.
Old west is that typical west coast sound, like if you ask anybody what west coast music sounds like, they tell you that one typical sound thats been played out in TV and video games lol, g funk, don't get me wrong, its still hot, but its old school. I mean, snoop got kids that look like they could be rappers in like 2 more years, we must move on, old school west support the new west generation, (but continue to bump you old west music if you want) and new school west artist, fuck what these old school guys are talking about and go hard!!!!! & you'll all be laughing about this in interviews in about 2 years talking bout how these niggahs was not doing they jobs as icons lol, shit will be funny by then!
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Big Up FrattHouse!!
Look out for the New West Movement, shit is real serious! :o
& Big up to all the OGs that do lend a hand here & there!
not everybody is juiced up on haterade and hollywood...There's some thorough OGs out there too, so big ups
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hot shit!
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yall are reading into this a little too much.
this new west shit is starting to sound more like a marketing tool.
although i appreciate new artists coming in and changing out the musical
landscape for westcoast hip hop, i don't think it's necessary to get that acknowledgment
from the older artists. these newer artists are much more talented lyrically and
are coming with dope shit.
i think everybody on the west, should just go independent.
fuck a major label, rap sales aren't there anymore.
and fuck bringing the west coast back in the mainstream.
people already dick ride our shit enough.
lets keep it independent and keep putting out quality music instead.
no, to my knowledge, "The New West" means that sound that you hear on the west coast that doesn't sound like the "typical west coast", and alot of people from about 28 and down are doing it.
Old west is that typical west coast sound, like if you ask anybody what west coast music sounds like, they tell you that one typical sound thats been played out in TV and video games lol, g funk, don't get me wrong, its still hot, but its old school. I mean, snoop got kids that look like they could be rappers in like 2 more years, we must move on, old school west support the new west generation, (but continue to bump you old west music if you want) and new school west artist, fuck what these old school guys are talking about and go hard!!!!! & you'll all be laughing about this in interviews in about 2 years talking bout how these niggahs was not doing they jobs as icons lol, shit will be funny by then!
But Amy, yes, it is going its on way, yet, itq still sounds west coast, you know.. like that WEST SIDE - KAIZER SOSE track, u hear the beat and you know itīs west coast, Mellow beats provided by the left side natural brackground... music evolutionates, for bad or good, but this track beat (west side), sounds a lot like goldie loc beats on loc'd out, ... old dude, album released on 2005... simply evolution, old cats evolutionate with the music or get stock, ice cube aint stocked.... it's like saying them hommies up north in the yay aint doing the hyphy shit... now thats a movement enforced by old and young... lets start doing the same... no new west... simply WEST COAST.... FOE LIFE!
Why this flathousers maD? cuz ice cube said he dont want any protegee, let him be, he simply doesnt feel like, look for another cat cat who's willing then, if can't find them, go bolo y solo, then... let's not blame the OGS.... remember "You muthaf**kas programmed by the programmers
Thats why you getting locked up by the dope slammers, Not me"... ice cube, it takes a nation...
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yall are reading into this a little too much.
this new west shit is starting to sound more like a marketing tool.
although i appreciate new artists coming in and changing out the musical
landscape for westcoast hip hop, i don't think it's necessary to get that acknowledgment
from the older artists. these newer artists are much more talented lyrically and
are coming with dope shit.
i think everybody on the west, should just go independent.
fuck a major label, rap sales aren't there anymore.
and fuck bringing the west coast back in the mainstream.
people already dick ride our shit enough.
lets keep it independent and keep putting out quality music instead.
no, to my knowledge, "The New West" means that sound that you hear on the west coast that doesn't sound like the "typical west coast", and alot of people from about 28 and down are doing it.
Old west is that typical west coast sound, like if you ask anybody what west coast music sounds like, they tell you that one typical sound thats been played out in TV and video games lol, g funk, don't get me wrong, its still hot, but its old school. I mean, snoop got kids that look like they could be rappers in like 2 more years, we must move on, old school west support the new west generation, (but continue to bump you old west music if you want) and new school west artist, fuck what these old school guys are talking about and go hard!!!!! & you'll all be laughing about this in interviews in about 2 years talking bout how these niggahs was not doing they jobs as icons lol, shit will be funny by then!
But Amy, yes, it is going its on way, yet, itq still sounds west coast, you know.. like that WEST SIDE - KAIZER SOSE track, u hear the beat and you know itīs west coast, Mellow beats provided by the left side natural brackground... music evolutionates, for bad or good, but this track beat (west side), sounds a lot like goldie loc beats on loc'd out, ... old dude, album released on 2005... simply evolution, old cats evolutionate with the music or get stock, ice cube aint stocked.... it's like saying them hommies up north in the yay aint doing the hyphy shit... now thats a movement enforced by old and young... lets start doing the same... no new west... simply WEST COAST.... FOE LIFE!
Why this flathousers maD? cuz ice cube said he dont want any protegee, let him be, he simply doesnt feel like, look for another cat cat who's willing then, if can't find them, go bolo y solo, then... let's not blame the OGS.... remember "You muthaf**kas programmed by the programmers
Thats why you getting locked up by the dope slammers, Not me"... ice cube, it takes a nation...
yeah i like this song, this is an good introduction to killa kali for people visiting, bass line is sick
and yeah, your right, the older guys should support these young brothers at here working hard to put their music out, I don't know whats up with them ???
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to me, with most west coast hip hop, mainstream, gangster, "indie","alternative" or otherwise all
sounds like shit that was done before. most the beats these cats are using are wanna be dre beats from
his 2001 era. people are still gang banging on wax and talking about selling crack and talking about
how dangerous southern california is. so it's not really like anyone switched shit up.
aside from a few artists, most everybody still doing the same shit.
i like the big majority of the new west though. so im not hating, i just don't really see the "new" part.
but i blame this shit on the fans not the artists. people put the artists in a place where
they gotta adhere to a certain way of being to be successful.
like you gotta be a G, you gotta talk about the west coast non stop(seriously yo, how many "welcome to california" songs do we need?),
you're not a west coast hip hop artist if you're not rapping on some shit that sounds like funky worm.
like god damn, how many times we gonna hear a song with the same fucken sample?
yo for real though, i don't blame the artists at all. and west coast underground hip hop ain't what it used to
be either. most artists tend to decline in age but god damn, the quality music coming out of
the west right now is below average at best.
not everybody that comes out the west can be pac, or a big time drug dealer gangster or mack or whatever.
and thats all anyone is showing out, and that shits played cuz rappers from the east and the south
doing the same god damn thing.
it's not just california that has whack hip hop right now, whack and redundant hip hop is coming
out every corner of the US. but california has had the unique opportunity to step up and
present some dope material, and there has been a lot of dope material coming, but these
cats keep fucking with major labels and not learning their lessons. with all this boss talk and
being big time, you'd think these mother fuckers would have founded their own labels
or put their own albums out by now.
the last thing that i thought was fresh out the west as far as a movement went, was
hyphy, but i think that was too flashy and disparate for a lot of people in so cal,
so it probably didn't jump off as much as it should've. plus the bay tended to be pretty
exclusive with it.
also, i do believe older rappers are hogging up a lot of the attention and not letting
dudes shine as far as the mainstream goes, so i will give these dudes that at least.
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Man music is music at the end of the day. West coast artists are west coast artists. New or establish. I agree the support out west ain't that great, but there are alot of new artists out here grinding everyday. Sometimes in life you can't wait for a handout. My motto get on my level or go get a shovel. And alot of cats are busting down the doors themselves. And there are alot of OG rappers that do things behind the scenes to help artists out that alot of us here in computer land don't see. Maybe it is because we are behind a computer.
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to me, with most west coast hip hop, mainstream, gangster, "indie","alternative" or otherwise all
sounds like shit that was done before. most the beats these cats are using are wanna be dre beats from
his 2001 era. people are still gang banging on wax and talking about selling crack and talking about
how dangerous southern california is. so it's not really like anyone switched shit up.
aside from a few artists, most everybody still doing the same shit.
i like the big majority of the new west though. so im not hating, i just don't really see the "new" part.
but i blame this shit on the fans not the artists. people put the artists in a place where
they gotta adhere to a certain way of being to be successful.
like you gotta be a G, you gotta talk about the west coast non stop(seriously yo, how many "welcome to california" songs do we need?),
you're not a west coast hip hop artist if you're not rapping on some shit that sounds like funky worm.
like god damn, how many times we gonna hear a song with the same fucken sample?
yo for real though, i don't blame the artists at all. and west coast underground hip hop ain't what it used to
be either. most artists tend to decline in age but god damn, the quality music coming out of
the west right now is below average at best.
not everybody that comes out the west can be pac, or a big time drug dealer gangster or mack or whatever.
and thats all anyone is showing out, and that shits played cuz rappers from the east and the south
doing the same god damn thing.
it's not just california that has whack hip hop right now, whack and redundant hip hop is coming
out every corner of the US. but california has had the unique opportunity to step up and
present some dope material, and there has been a lot of dope material coming, but these
cats keep fucking with major labels and not learning their lessons. with all this boss talk and
being big time, you'd think these mother fuckers would have founded their own labels
or put their own albums out by now.
the last thing that i thought was fresh out the west as far as a movement went, was
hyphy, but i think that was too flashy and disparate for a lot of people in so cal,
so it probably didn't jump off as much as it should've. plus the bay tended to be pretty
exclusive with it.
also, i do believe older rappers are hogging up a lot of the attention and not letting
dudes shine as far as the mainstream goes, so i will give these dudes that at least.
:tosser:
West Coast people are proud, I expect to hear a welcome to Cali track from every West rapper just because we are a pride state,
thats the culture here, you should know that by now.
as far as difference, i've notice alot of the new west artist aren't afraid to try new things, theres not really for say, a Suge Knight monitoring them like in the past,
they all are different which is making our coast look very diverse which it really is, i mean there is gangsta rap, lyrical rap, southern cali style rap, northern cali style, daygo style, chicano style, there is alot of flavor, i just want everybody to do their thing, but at the end of the day have respect for one another instead of hating them for not sounding like Snoop, there is one snoop, one tupac, they paved the way, they did they thing, but now its time for something i never heard before, something brand new and fresh!
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I love me some West Coast anthems, thats why my favorite right of all time is pac!
this is my shit right here too! West Coast, we do the most get with it!
http://www.imeem.com/people/dm5HqGd/music/iqPYCxFQ/kaizer_sose_feat_espy_k_certified_closin_in_kaizer_sos/
"CLOSING IN"
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I love me some West Coast anthems, thats why my favorite right of all time is pac!
this is my shit right here too! West Coast, we do the most get with it!
http://www.imeem.com/people/dm5HqGd/music/iqPYCxFQ/kaizer_sose_feat_espy_k_certified_closin_in_kaizer_sos/
"CLOSING IN"
this my shit too, "Run the City" feat. Lloyd
he kills the second verse
http://www.imeem.com/courtneylupinitx/music/YqNCdiZw/lloyd_feat_kaizer_sose_run_the_city/
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I love me some West Coast anthems, thats why my favorite right of all time is pac!
this is my shit right here too! West Coast, we do the most get with it!
http://www.imeem.com/people/dm5HqGd/music/iqPYCxFQ/kaizer_sose_feat_espy_k_certified_closin_in_kaizer_sos/
"CLOSING IN"
this my shit too, "Run the City" feat. Lloyd
he kills the second verse
http://www.imeem.com/courtneylupinitx/music/YqNCdiZw/lloyd_feat_kaizer_sose_run_the_city/
Lloyd's over-rated, but Kaizer and whoever that was on the last verse really brought that track alive! Props
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lloyd plays his part, and thats a rapper name Gee$, another up & coming cat to look out for
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This is hot!!
Download it here: myspace.com/aaamusicgroup
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Do u here about the new south or the new east ? The young cats don't cry for help from the OG's in the south or the east so why in the west ? Because the young cats from the west stay undergorund ! We all know that we have talent in the west but the west is fucked up ! But it's to easy to blame the Og's especially when they do whah they can to survive ! But dre sign bishop ? snoop had Dubb u , Mack 10 help G malone ; Wc had the trapp ? But the oG's can do for the news west what they can do for them selve!!
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Do u here about the new south or the new east ? The young cats don't cry for help from the OG's in the south or the east so why in the west ? Because the young cats from the west stay undergorund ! We all know that we have talent in the west but the west is fucked up ! But it's to easy to blame the Og's especially when they do whah they can to survive ! But dre sign bishop ? snoop had Dubb u , Mack 10 help G malone ; Wc had the trapp ? But the oG's can do for the news west what they can do for them selve!!
yo fuck these niggahs, the new west is gonna make it, wait to yall see the new issue of :-X magazine!
hahahaha! shhhhhhhhh! you'll see! Its gonna piss you the fuck off! hahahaha!
And p.s. we don't need hand outs, old djs ain't fucking with us, we make our own djs, this 2008 baby! we got this!
this the computer years, we gonna make it regardless
new west
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don't sleep on the new west
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I love me some West Coast anthems, thats why my favorite right of all time is pac!
this is my shit right here too! West Coast, we do the most get with it!
http://www.imeem.com/people/dm5HqGd/music/iqPYCxFQ/kaizer_sose_feat_espy_k_certified_closin_in_kaizer_sos/
"CLOSING IN"
This shit is crazy right here, why don't you put up the downloadable version or something! Is that lil wayne on the last verse? or am i tripping? Didn't see his name in the link ???
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I love me some West Coast anthems, thats why my favorite right of all time is pac!
this is my shit right here too! West Coast, we do the most get with it!
http://www.imeem.com/people/dm5HqGd/music/iqPYCxFQ/kaizer_sose_feat_espy_k_certified_closin_in_kaizer_sos/
"CLOSING IN"
This shit is crazy right here, why don't you put up the downloadable version or something! Is that lil wayne on the last verse? or am i tripping? Didn't see his name in the link ???
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS SOSE GUY IN THE BARBERSHOP SATURDAY, WHICH IS HE IN THIS SONG? I HEAR 3 PEOPLE, AND NONE FAMILIAR
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I'm all for the New West taking over, but these niggas suck!
wow, my opinion was they(the new west artist) are better than anybody spitting in the south, anybody spitting in the east right now, anybody spitting any where, the west is ready! not to mention everyone is looking at the west right now, the east coast, down south, mid-west, because they know this too. and they are attracted to our lifestyles
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I'm all for the New West taking over, but these niggas suck!
wow, my opinion was they(the new west artist) are better than anybody spitting in the south, anybody spitting in the east right now, anybody spitting any where, the west is ready! not to mention everyone is looking at the west right now, the east coast, down south, mid-west, because they know this too. and they are attracted to our lifestyles
I would say the West coast's "lyrical" artists are equal to the East Coast's "lyrical artists". Mid and South ain't close to any of 'em tho.
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I'm all for the New West taking over, but these niggas suck!
wow, my opinion was they(the new west artist) are better than anybody spitting in the south, anybody spitting in the east right now, anybody spitting any where, the west is ready! not to mention everyone is looking at the west right now, the east coast, down south, mid-west, because they know this too. and they are attracted to our lifestyles
I would say the West coast's "lyrical" artists are equal to the East Coast's "lyrical artists". Mid and South ain't close to any of 'em tho.
True, the west coast has really been raising the bar lately! Im hearing some good things from alot of new dudes in the game, none and unknown (im in the streets too! not just online ;)
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I'm all for the New West taking over, but these niggas suck!
wow, my opinion was they(the new west artist) are better than anybody spitting in the south, anybody spitting in the east right now, anybody spitting any where, the west is ready! not to mention everyone is looking at the west right now, the east coast, down south, mid-west, because they know this too. and they are attracted to our lifestyles
I would say the West coast's "lyrical" artists are equal to the East Coast's "lyrical artists". Mid and South ain't close to any of 'em tho.
True, the west coast has really been raising the bar lately! Im hearing some good things from alot of new dudes in the game, none and unknown (im in the streets too! not just online ;)
Yep. There is such an expansion of artists coming out right now, dudes are forced to step it all the way up, or they just aren't gonna get heard.