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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: dameons on May 12, 2009, 09:28:14 PM
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Would have loved to hear more from both of these cats !
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Agree on the hearing more part... I think Mel-Man for me personally... I have heard more of his stuff and liked what I heard more from him! Missed the boat originally on the other people from DR so didnt initially pick up on much of Sneeds work... I think even if I knew more Sneed it would be Mel-Man 8)
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sam sneed made "natural born killers" and "recognize"
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Also had a big part in "Keep Their Headz Ringin' ".
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What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.
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What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.
well, that's actually the truth :)
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What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.
Sam Sneed was capable of producing great tracks solo (Bag O'Weed, What Comes Around), but had that brain tumour after leaving Death Row which limited his output.
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What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.
well, that's actually the truth :)
people keep bitching about how Dre doesn't produce, Dre gets all these producers to do everything for him. But none of these cats have a successful career after leaving. Scott Storch had his little moment (where is he now?), and thats basically it.
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What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.
well, that's actually the truth :)
people keep bitching about how Dre doesn't produce, Dre gets all these producers to do everything for him. But none of these cats have a successful career after leaving. Scott Storch had his little moment (where is he now?), and thats basically it.
i know what you mean! it's like they're not thankful for the fact that Dre gave them a shot.
anyway, yeah Scott Storch became popular, but you can hear the difference in his music, after he left Dr.Dre.
i don't hate on Scott, but musically, he's still doing the same shit he did 10 years ago :P
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Mel-Man's dope but he can't fuck with Sam Sneed - you better recognize 8)!
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hmm.what they do amazing solo?
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Mel-Man's dope but he can't fuck with Sam Sneed - you better recognize 8)!
co-sign 8)
although Sam Sneed is still on some classic shit. ;D
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Mel Man. Just because he has about double the amount of hits that Sneed has. That's not to say that Sneed hasn't always been a superb producer though.
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the producers thatīs claimed that theyīve ghost produced tracks for Dre donīt make it on their own coz they havenīt ghost produced shit and thatīs it. if they had done all of the tracks they claim to have done theyīd be super producers without Dre aswell.
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sam sneed made "natural born killers"
Also had a big part in "Keep Their Headz Ringin' ".
Well, J.Flexx claimed he did both. I'd like to know the truth.
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sam sneed made "natural born killers"
Also had a big part in "Keep Their Headz Ringin' ".
Well, J.Flexx claimed he did both. I'd like to know the truth.
J.Flexx also claimed that Dre screwed him over royalties, yet it was Suge publishing :P
he has no credibility
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sam sneed made "natural born killers"
Also had a big part in "Keep Their Headz Ringin' ".
Well, J.Flexx claimed he did both. I'd like to know the truth.
J.Flexx also claimed that Dre screwed him over royalties, yet it was Suge publishing :P
he has no credibility
no one that´s claimed that they´ve ghost produced for Dre has any real credibility. the guys that were in the Souce saying it said it after they had been laid off from Aftermath, Daz said it years after Dre left DR and when Daz was broke and talked shit aboyt everyone etc etc. even Scott Storch said that Dre doesn´t take credit for other´s work and that was after his contract with Dre and Aftermath was up. it´s the easiest thing in the world to claim especially since Dre never does any interviews and even he did he´d never talk about a bunch of washed up losers.
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sam sneed made "natural born killers"
Also had a big part in "Keep Their Headz Ringin' ".
Well, J.Flexx claimed he did both. I'd like to know the truth.
J.Flexx also claimed that Dre screwed him over royalties, yet it was Suge publishing :P
he has no credibility
no one thatīs claimed that theyīve ghost produced for Dre has any real credibility. the guys that were in the Souce saying it said it after they had been laid off from Aftermath, Daz said it years after Dre left DR and when Daz was broke and talked shit aboyt everyone etc etc. even Scott Storch said that Dre doesnīt take credit for otherīs work and that was after his contract with Dre and Aftermath was up. itīs the easiest thing in the world to claim especially since Dre never does any interviews and even he did heīd never talk about a bunch of washed up losers.
that's right :)
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and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.
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no one thatīs claimed that theyīve ghost produced for Dre has any real credibility. the guys that were in the Souce saying it said it after they had been laid off from Aftermath, Daz said it years after Dre left DR and when Daz was broke and talked shit aboyt everyone etc etc. even Scott Storch said that Dre doesnīt take credit for otherīs work and that was after his contract with Dre and Aftermath was up. itīs the easiest thing in the world to claim especially since Dre never does any interviews and even he did heīd never talk about a bunch of washed up losers.
No one has any real credibility? Scott Storch said he produced "Still D.R.E" and Dre did the drums. So many people has said that Dre takes credit when he should not, it's kind of hard not to believe that's it true and even Snoop Dogg said that Dre "produces" (that doesn't mean he makes the beat)
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and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.
that's right, i'm glad you know the truth ;)
there's a lot of posters on here that talk shit, but have no clue of what they're talking about
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and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.
that's right, i'm glad you know the truth ;)
there's a lot of posters on here that talk shit, but have no clue of what they're talking about
Yeah, it's great to know that you know Dr. Dre better then many people who been around him for years ;)
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and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.
that's right, i'm glad you know the truth ;)
there's a lot of posters on here that talk shit, but have no clue of what they're talking about
Yeah, it's great to know that you know Dr. Dre better then many people who been around him for years ;)
but itīs real funny that no one has a problem with him "stealing" before he fires them. if itīs a problem when youīre no longer an employee of his it sure as shit wouldīve been a problem while you worked for him aswell. and Scott Storch only said that he came up with they keyboard riff and you can find that on yoututube. it was when Sway interviewed him. and if they had all of that talent theyīd be just as big without Dre coz Dre could never blackball a producer with real talent. and it wouldnīt be too hard for them go copyright their material then there would never have been anything to discuss. and if Dre really stole shit iīm sure Mel-Man wouldīve said something about it.
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but itīs real funny that no one has a problem with him "stealing" before he fires them. if itīs a problem when youīre no longer an employee of his it sure as shit wouldīve been a problem while you worked for him aswell. and Scott Storch only said that he came up with they keyboard riff and you can find that on yoututube. it was when Sway interviewed him. and if they had all of that talent theyīd be just as big without Dre coz Dre could never blackball a producer with real talent. and it wouldnīt be too hard for them go copyright their material then there would never have been anything to discuss.
People who work with Dre have to sign a contract and it's about not talkin about the projects they workin on.
Scott Storch said a few times that he really produced "Still D.R.E." and Dre only did the drums, there's was even a article about it (can't remember it it was in The Source or not)
So Cold 187Um doesn't have talent? Dre blackballed him so that he can't even get a fuckin record deal (well, that's what Hutch said).
And about "being big" without Dre, Scott Storch is pretty big, was and still is even though he's had some problems.
Why doesn't Mike Elizondo work with Dr. Dre anymore?
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and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.
that's right, i'm glad you know the truth ;)
there's a lot of posters on here that talk shit, but have no clue of what they're talking about
Yeah, it's great to know that you know Dr. Dre better then many people who been around him for years ;)
lol at the sarcasm, i never claimed that.
i just don't believe in assumptions like you do
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and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.
that's right, i'm glad you know the truth ;)
there's a lot of posters on here that talk shit, but have no clue of what they're talking about
Yeah, it's great to know that you know Dr. Dre better then many people who been around him for years ;)
lol at the sarcasm, i never claimed that.
i just don't believe in assumptions like you do
Well, it just seems kinda odd that so many people are sayin the same shit about Dre. I ain't takin credit from him though, i consider him the best producer ever.
BUT, the main thing is that producin' don't mean makin' beats (i always though it did) and i always thought Dr. Dre is the best beat maker, but i guess things just ain't like that.
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sam sneed made "natural born killers"
Also had a big part in "Keep Their Headz Ringin' ".
Well, J.Flexx claimed he did both. I'd like to know the truth.
J.Flexx also claimed that Dre screwed him over royalties, yet it was Suge publishing :P
he has no credibility
J-Flexx claimed to have wrote those songs, not produce them. And I don't think there was any dispute over that ever. I also don't think there was any dispute over the fact that Sneed produced both of those songs either.
And when it comes to the stealing credit shit, it's been discussed many times. If you know the real definition of a producer, that is what Dre is. All these people that claim to "ghost-produce" are basically just good BEATMAKERS, not producers.
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What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.
Sam Sneed was capable of producing great tracks solo (Bag O'Weed, What Comes Around), but had that brain tumour after leaving Death Row which limited his output.
:( poor guy
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sam sneed made "natural born killers"
Also had a big part in "Keep Their Headz Ringin' ".
Well, J.Flexx claimed he did both. I'd like to know the truth.
J.Flexx also claimed that Dre screwed him over royalties, yet it was Suge publishing :P
he has no credibility
J-Flexx claimed to have wrote those songs, not produce them. And I don't think there was any dispute over that ever. I also don't think there was any dispute over the fact that Sneed produced both of those songs either.
And when it comes to the stealing credit shit, it's been discussed many times. If you know the real definition of a producer, that is what Dre is. All these people that claim to "ghost-produce" are basically just good BEATMAKERS, not producers.
EXACTLY...someone may do the drums and the sampling but Dre was the one to put the whole thing together at the end
i'm not a big "audio nerd" myself but the college i just graduated from has an audio department and I spent time in the studio....even got to produce a track lol
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What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.
Sam Sneed was capable of producing great tracks solo (Bag O'Weed, What Comes Around), but had that brain tumour after leaving Death Row which limited his output.
Hell yeah, he produced "U Betta Recognize", "Blueberries" (Sam Sneed/Snoop Dogg) and "Blueberry" from "Tha Doggfather", all were dope as fuck.
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What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.
Sam Sneed was capable of producing great tracks solo (Bag O'Weed, What Comes Around), but had that brain tumour after leaving Death Row which limited his output.
Hell yeah, he produced "U Betta Recognize", "Blueberries" (Sam Sneed/Snoop Dogg) and "Blueberry" from "Tha Doggfather", all were dope as fuck.
and he produced IMMORTAL for 2pac
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Sneed was not only his sidewing but the initial source for his hits after the chronic. dre took his style without thanking
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Sneed was not only his sidewing but the initial source for his hits after the chronic. dre took his style without thanking
dre helped sneed out bare especially after the tumour. dre helped pay for treatment and helped get him lniks within the industry after he was out of it so long.
btw to answer the original q id say mel man cause he helped dre produce a whole classic album
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Sneed was not only his sidewing but the initial source for his hits after the chronic. dre took his style without thanking
pretty sure "Doggystyle" was Dre's shit
Warren G helped produce "ain't no fun" but admits Dre made it the hit that it became by tweaking it
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Warren G helped produce "ain't no fun" but admits Dre made it the hit that it became by tweaking it
Yeah, and Daz claimed Dre stole the beat from him :D
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Warren G helped produce "ain't no fun" but admits Dre made it the hit that it became by tweaking it
Yeah, and Daz claimed Dre stole the beat from him :D
LOL Daz should've spoken up about that in 1993 and got his name on the credits then....Daz has lied about tons of shit int he past before...he has no credibility
i totally believe Warren G over Daz
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and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.
that's right, i'm glad you know the truth ;)
there's a lot of posters on here that talk shit, but have no clue of what they're talking about
Yeah, it's great to know that you know Dr. Dre better then many people who been around him for years ;)
lol at the sarcasm, i never claimed that.
i just don't believe in assumptions like you do
Well, it just seems kinda odd that so many people are sayin the same shit about Dre. I ain't takin credit from him though, i consider him the best producer ever.
BUT, the main thing is that producin' don't mean makin' beats (i always though it did) and i always thought Dr. Dre is the best beat maker, but i guess things just ain't like that.
well there's not a short explanation for that, but when former partners state such things, you can tell that it's due to jealousy, greed & ignorance.
you know, in interviews, producers sometimes break down the difference between beatmaking & producing.
Terrace Martin & J.R. Rotem for example, did that.
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no one thatīs claimed that theyīve ghost produced for Dre has any real credibility. the guys that were in the Souce saying it said it after they had been laid off from Aftermath, Daz said it years after Dre left DR and when Daz was broke and talked shit aboyt everyone etc etc. even Scott Storch said that Dre doesnīt take credit for otherīs work and that was after his contract with Dre and Aftermath was up. itīs the easiest thing in the world to claim especially since Dre never does any interviews and even he did heīd never talk about a bunch of washed up losers.
No one has any real credibility? Scott Storch said he produced "Still D.R.E" and Dre did the drums. So many people has said that Dre takes credit when he should not, it's kind of hard not to believe that's it true and even Snoop Dogg said that Dre "produces" (that doesn't mean he makes the beat)
Scott Storch did the keyboards, and he was given credit for it. Dre didn't take credit for that. Go back and look at the 2001 booklet.
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from "the man with the master plan" so "you better recorgnize" tha OG.
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What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.
Sam Sneed was capable of producing great tracks solo (Bag O'Weed, What Comes Around), but had that brain tumour after leaving Death Row which limited his output.
Hell yeah, he produced "U Betta Recognize", "Blueberries" (Sam Sneed/Snoop Dogg) and "Blueberry" from "Tha Doggfather", all were dope as fuck.
Exactly, Dre was quoted as saying that Sam Sneed was Death Row's secret weapon. DJ Quik gives him props in the Safe + Sound booklet. Sam Sneed's never claimed to ghost produce tracks fro Dre either. The man is a production legend...shame his catalogue is so small, he had talent for real. 8)
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Warren G helped produce "ain't no fun" but admits Dre made it the hit that it became by tweaking it
Yeah, and Daz claimed Dre stole the beat from him :D
LOL Daz should've spoken up about that in 1993 and got his name on the credits then....Daz has lied about tons of shit int he past before...he has no credibility
i totally believe Warren G over Daz
Its sad to see how terrible Daz got after Dre left DR. I used to think Daz was a pretty good producer, but I think he has proven time and time again that he was not the force behind the DR era beats. I wouldn't mind seeing him get back with Dre though, to see if he still has the magic.
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but itīs real funny that no one has a problem with him "stealing" before he fires them. if itīs a problem when youīre no longer an employee of his it sure as shit wouldīve been a problem while you worked for him aswell. and Scott Storch only said that he came up with they keyboard riff and you can find that on yoututube. it was when Sway interviewed him. and if they had all of that talent theyīd be just as big without Dre coz Dre could never blackball a producer with real talent. and it wouldnīt be too hard for them go copyright their material then there would never have been anything to discuss.
People who work with Dre have to sign a contract and it's about not talkin about the projects they workin on.
Scott Storch said a few times that he really produced "Still D.R.E." and Dre only did the drums, there's was even a article about it (can't remember it it was in The Source or not)
So Cold 187Um doesn't have talent? Dre blackballed him so that he can't even get a fuckin record deal (well, that's what Hutch said).
And about "being big" without Dre, Scott Storch is pretty big, was and still is even though he's had some problems.
Why doesn't Mike Elizondo work with Dr. Dre anymore?
Mike apparently got tired of rap from what he told me.
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anyway, it's kind of hard to compare Mel-Man with Sam Sneed, as Sam's amount of work was limited
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but itīs real funny that no one has a problem with him "stealing" before he fires them. if itīs a problem when youīre no longer an employee of his it sure as shit wouldīve been a problem while you worked for him aswell. and Scott Storch only said that he came up with they keyboard riff and you can find that on yoututube. it was when Sway interviewed him. and if they had all of that talent theyīd be just as big without Dre coz Dre could never blackball a producer with real talent. and it wouldnīt be too hard for them go copyright their material then there would never have been anything to discuss.
People who work with Dre have to sign a contract and it's about not talkin about the projects they workin on.
Scott Storch said a few times that he really produced "Still D.R.E." and Dre only did the drums, there's was even a article about it (can't remember it it was in The Source or not)
So Cold 187Um doesn't have talent? Dre blackballed him so that he can't even get a fuckin record deal (well, that's what Hutch said).
And about "being big" without Dre, Scott Storch is pretty big, was and still is even though he's had some problems.
Why doesn't Mike Elizondo work with Dr. Dre anymore?
Mike apparently got tired of rap from what he told me.
He was doin some work on "Relapse".
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anyway, it's kind of hard to compare Mel-Man with Sam Sneed, as Sam's amount of work was limited
Yeah, that's true. Was Joe Beast's "Gangsta" produced by Dre or Mel-Man?
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anyway, it's kind of hard to compare Mel-Man with Sam Sneed, as Sam's amount of work was limited
Yeah, that's true. Was Joe Beast's "Gangsta" produced by Dre or Mel-Man?
i don't know.
in the vault, someone listed both
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they are bpth dope
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Mel-Man got to put in work on '2001' and in-form Sam Sneed would of put in the same work for 'Helter Skelter', what a missed opportunity.