West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: vandal on June 03, 2010, 10:59:02 AM
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I would agree that these guys are talented but they are boxing themeselves in with the type of music they are making. Too much gang bangin shoooting and shit in the music. These cats cant book shows without some drama popping off especially in LA. Nipsey is from one of the most hated hoods in LA. No promoter is gonna want to book you if there is a chance that the dam show can get shot up. Trust me these niggaz cant go nowhere in Cali and do a show without some drama. They need to chill every word out of they mouth is Blood cuzz Crip damu etc.. It wasnt like that with WC, Mack 10, Eazy, Snoop etc. Even though you knew where they was from they wasnt puttin it out there like that like look at me I am a gang member. This young generation feels liek they need to prove something but they need to look at the OG's and see how they did it. How the west was truly won.
www.outrageousrecords.com
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I would agree that these guys are talented but they are boxing themeselves in with the type of music they are making. Too much gang bangin shoooting and shit in the music. These cats cant book shows without some drama popping off especially in LA. Nipsey is from one of the most hated hoods in LA. No promoter is gonna want to book you if there is a chance that the dam show can get shot up. Trust me these niggaz cant go nowhere in Cali and do a show without some drama. They need to chill every word out of they mouth is Blood cuzz Crip damu etc.. It wasnt like that with WC, Mack 10, Eazy, Snoop etc. Even though you knew where they was from they wasnt puttin it out there like that like look at me I am a gang member. This young generation feels liek they need to prove something but they need to look at the OG's and see how they did it. How the west was truly won.
www.outrageousrecords.com
i agree with they don't need to say it so much in songs,cause everybody know and know they keep it networth, just focus on making good music that everybody can vibe to,cause if it's a gang of blood talk piru this and that me and alot of equals i know ain't trying to hear that all day,and vice versa with nipsey,ain't no bloods or treys ain't gonna wanna hear that all day and will sleep on it, now if they just tell ill stories and keep it g without all the extras everybody will fucc with it yell
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Ever since Game, Lil Wayne and co. have been running around claiming blood and shit it seemed like everyone needed to be part of a gang. I'd like to think that Nipsey Hussle and Jay Rock are using this fad to achieve a big buzz but I've yet to hear one song from either that doesn't focus on or mention gangbanging. At times I wonder why they're following in the south's footsteps rather than the west coast artists that came before them, like how Eazy-E kept his crip relations on a low profile and DJ Quik regreting wearing red and claiming Piru in the Safe + Sound days. I just hope they add more diversity to their songs or every song on their debut is going to sound exactly the same :P.
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game does the same shit and he made it so it has nothing to do with that. bottem line is west coast niggaz are known to be wack so nobody gives there shit a chance if nip or rock was from new york or the south these niggaz would be as big a gucci is, it has a lot to do with the coast your on. off top i can tell you most the niggaz i know dont like west coast rap and thats off top. them niggaz don't care to listen to it once they hear that the nigga is from the west coast them niggaz assume it wack.
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rappers just did it better bacc in the day,
kurupt "crenshaw and slauson"
snoop "from the depths of the sea"
mac 10 "and try the guess the color of my shoelaces"
it was more creative and equals who bang'd or whatever would know right off the top especially about the kurupt line yell
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This is what West Coast niggaz be talking about. It's okay for everyone to do it but us! And Nipsey has stepped his game up. Bullets 1 & 2 were raw, str8 from from the turf. Bullets 3 demonstrated his evolution as an artist. But then again, it's okay for Lil Wayne, Birdman, Jim Jones, Gucci and folks to be flagged up but if West Coast niggaz do it, run the opposite direction. Oh and as far as promoters not wanting to book people like Nipsey, he's done shows in Conservation ass Orange County so booking isn't an issue if the demand is there.
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i can honestly say they cemented the growth of their careers going the spider loc route
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Ever since Game, Lil Wayne and co. have been running around claiming blood and shit it seemed like everyone needed to be part of a gang. I'd like to think that Nipsey Hussle and Jay Rock are using this fad to achieve a big buzz but I've yet to hear one song from either that doesn't focus on or mention gangbanging. At times I wonder why they're following in the south's footsteps rather than the west coast artists that came before them, like how Eazy-E kept his crip relations on a low profile and DJ Quik regreting wearing red and claiming Piru in the Safe + Sound days. I just hope they add more diversity to their songs or every song on their debut is going to sound exactly the same :P.
"but I've yet to hear one song from either that doesn't focus on or mention gangbanging."
Your obviously ignorant then. Have a look and listen homie and stay on top of ya game before commenting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxGu3UpRvXY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4axhLdw74k
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game does the same shit and he made it so it has nothing to do with that. bottem line is west coast niggaz are known to be wack so nobody gives there shit a chance if nip or rock was from new york or the south these niggaz would be as big a gucci is, it has a lot to do with the coast your on. off top i can tell you most the niggaz i know dont like west coast rap and thats off top. them niggaz don't care to listen to it once they hear that the nigga is from the west coast them niggaz assume it wack.
Dude I live in L.a an dhave lived here all my life. Your from Canada and you dont know the streets out here at all. Game did it but guess what he had a machine behind him called Interscope and if you notice his hits had nothing to do with the gang bang life style. All that shit he did with 50 that put him on the map was good music period no gang bang shit.
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i can honestly say they cemented the growth of their careers going the spider loc route
Thank you my nigga!!
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This is what West Coast niggaz be talking about. It's okay for everyone to do it but us! And Nipsey has stepped his game up. Bullets 1 & 2 were raw, str8 from from the turf. Bullets 3 demonstrated his evolution as an artist. But then again, it's okay for Lil Wayne, Birdman, Jim Jones, Gucci and folks to be flagged up but if West Coast niggaz do it, run the opposite direction. Oh and as far as promoters not wanting to book people like Nipsey, he's done shows in Conservation ass Orange County so booking isn't an issue if the demand is there.
This nigga said orange county!! LMAO!! Nigga stop it. Noone says its cool for them down south niggaz to do it. I hate the fact they do it. i find it insulting. Make good music its like my nigga said the other cats did it more creative than these new niggaz is doing now.
www.outrageousrecords.com
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Ever since Game, Lil Wayne and co. have been running around claiming blood and shit it seemed like everyone needed to be part of a gang. I'd like to think that Nipsey Hussle and Jay Rock are using this fad to achieve a big buzz but I've yet to hear one song from either that doesn't focus on or mention gangbanging. At times I wonder why they're following in the south's footsteps rather than the west coast artists that came before them, like how Eazy-E kept his crip relations on a low profile and DJ Quik regreting wearing red and claiming Piru in the Safe + Sound days. I just hope they add more diversity to their songs or every song on their debut is going to sound exactly the same :P.
Here go another one for you. RSC 4 Life R u kidding me he asking to get popped I promise u!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCw9lFRQPxQ&feature=related
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Ever since Game, Lil Wayne and co. have been running around claiming blood and shit it seemed like everyone needed to be part of a gang. I'd like to think that Nipsey Hussle and Jay Rock are using this fad to achieve a big buzz but I've yet to hear one song from either that doesn't focus on or mention gangbanging. At times I wonder why they're following in the south's footsteps rather than the west coast artists that came before them, like how Eazy-E kept his crip relations on a low profile and DJ Quik regreting wearing red and claiming Piru in the Safe + Sound days. I just hope they add more diversity to their songs or every song on their debut is going to sound exactly the same :P.
Trust me he would ntwear that T shirt outside of his Hood so why wear it all.
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This is what West Coast niggaz be talking about. It's okay for everyone to do it but us! And Nipsey has stepped his game up. Bullets 1 & 2 were raw, str8 from from the turf. Bullets 3 demonstrated his evolution as an artist. But then again, it's okay for Lil Wayne, Birdman, Jim Jones, Gucci and folks to be flagged up but if West Coast niggaz do it, run the opposite direction. Oh and as far as promoters not wanting to book people like Nipsey, he's done shows in Conservation ass Orange County so booking isn't an issue if the demand is there.
This nigga said orange county!! LMAO!! Nigga stop it. Noone says its cool for them down south niggaz to do it. I hate the fact they do it. i find it insulting. Make good music its like my nigga said the other cats did it more creative than these new niggaz is doing now.
www.outrageousrecords.com
Do not laugh at the orange county music scene. I see you have a link to a record label at the bottom of your post. Then you should really know better as someone in music if it is yours. These white kids out here really get down with the music and yes, there are Black folks out here too. These white kids do buy tickets and support artist. 40 water, Too Short as well as a few others do shows out here all the time and I'm not just talking at major venues.
As as far as Southern niggaz, even though you and most of use here out West find it insulting, you know you must admit that the industry has complained and played the west because of the flaggin' but have nothing to say when these other cats do it. Matter of fact, the industry promotes them. And on the same ticket, the industry complains about us and says that "oh, that's all west coast rappers can do, they don't have any real talent" but then they turn around and the only West Coast acts they sign and promote are gangsta rappers.
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This is what West Coast niggaz be talking about. It's okay for everyone to do it but us! And Nipsey has stepped his game up. Bullets 1 & 2 were raw, str8 from from the turf. Bullets 3 demonstrated his evolution as an artist. But then again, it's okay for Lil Wayne, Birdman, Jim Jones, Gucci and folks to be flagged up but if West Coast niggaz do it, run the opposite direction. Oh and as far as promoters not wanting to book people like Nipsey, he's done shows in Conservation ass Orange County so booking isn't an issue if the demand is there.
This nigga said orange county!! LMAO!! Nigga stop it. Noone says its cool for them down south niggaz to do it. I hate the fact they do it. i find it insulting. Make good music its like my nigga said the other cats did it more creative than these new niggaz is doing now.
www.outrageousrecords.com
Do not laugh at the orange county music scene. I see you have a link to a record label at the bottom of your post. Then you should really know better as someone in music if it is yours. These white kids out here really get down with the music and yes, there are Black folks out here too. These white kids do buy tickets and support artist. 40 water, Too Short as well as a few others do shows out here all the time and I'm not just talking at major venues.
As as far as Southern niggaz, even though you and most of use here out West find it insulting, you know you must admit that the industry has complained and played the west because of the flaggin' but have nothing to say when these other cats do it. Matter of fact, the industry promotes them. And on the same ticket, the industry complains about us and says that "oh, that's all west coast rappers can do, they don't have any real talent" but then they turn around and the only West Coast acts they sign and promote are gangsta rappers.
I hear what your saying but I believe it is up to us as Westcoast artist to break the stereotype that has been placed on us. Unfortunately Jay Rock, Nipsey and G malone to a certain extent still hold what they say is true about the Westcoast which is you have to be a gangsta rapper or have dre co-sign you to have chance. I think we need to break the mold family. It seems like only gangsta shit is the only that still gets played out this way. I guess it can be blamed on the Dj's as well. And yes I own and run my own Indie Label Outrageous Records. Give me your objective ear and let me know your thoughts. I was raised in South Central but none of my music reflects the environment I grew up in. My body might be n the hood but my mind and where I am going is far from it.
www.outrageousrecords.com
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it is not hurting the booking...it is the refusal to do abc songs that is holding them back...I know people in the Top Dawg camp Jay Rock is making more money than you guys think
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rappers just did it better bacc in the day,
kurupt "crenshaw and slauson"
snoop "from the depths of the sea"
mac 10 "and try the guess the color of my shoelaces"
it was more creative and equals who bang'd or whatever would know right off the top especially about the kurupt line yell
every 1 of those lines were low key and at the most suggestive, they werent all out in your face crippin or bloodin. i see the point of threadstarter but u gotta understand, this is their reality. they rap what they know and thats how they got the fanbase they have now, not so much for jay rock because personally i think his time in the rap game is up but nipsey is our realistic hope for the future of blowin up the west again.
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it is not hurting the booking...it is the refusal to do abc songs that is holding them back...I know people in the Top Dawg camp Jay Rock is making more money than you guys think
You really think Jay Rock gettin money? It all depends on what you think getting money is. All I can say is that he is signed to an indie label which does not belong to him he is just an artist on it. He is not seeing what u think he might be seeing. I wish him the best and hope he is gettin dough but dont let these rappers fool u. Them niggaz is still in the hood or living right around the corner from it. U think that joint with lil wayne he did was just becuase weezy likes him? Hell no his label had to chip weezy off. Jay Rock is probably still having to pay for that. I feel u the nigga go hard in the paint but the in ya face I'm a blood shit eliminates alot of things you can do from a music perspective and also from a marketing and sponsorship perspective. Trust me niggaz think twice about booking these cats for the simple of fact of what they represent but more less how they represent it and the potential danger of rival gangs fuckin up the venue. I say again Snoop, Eazy, Mc Eiht, Quik, you knew where they was from but they did it so creatively in the music and had been grinding for so long in the game that niggas had to respect it. It's like these younger cats is throwin it in ya face and saying look at me I will be from RSC till I die or Im from Huntaz. Nigga go plat first or even gold then u may have some lead way to that shit. Them niggaz is limiting themselves from going to hood star to superstar. Its all good though I am just saying this from being an owner of an inide label myself. I dont want to have to worry about shows getting shot up or my artist potentially being murdered, but to each his own. I wish them nothing but success.
www.outrageousrecords.com
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it is not hurting the booking...it is the refusal to do abc songs that is holding them back...I know people in the Top Dawg camp Jay Rock is making more money than you guys think
You really think Jay Rock gettin money? It all depends on what you think getting money is. All I can say is that he is signed to an indie label which does not belong to him he is just an artist on it. He is not seeing what u think he might be seeing. I wish him the best and hope he is gettin dough but dont let these rappers fool u. Them niggaz is still in the hood or living right around the corner from it. U think that joint with lil wayne he did was just becuase weezy likes him? Hell no his label had to chip weezy off. Jay Rock is probably still having to pay for that. I feel u the nigga go hard in the paint but the in ya face I'm a blood shit eliminates alot of things you can do from a music perspective and also from a marketing and sponsorship perspective. Trust me niggaz think twice about booking these cats for the simple of fact of what they represent but more less how they represent it and the potential danger of rival gangs fuckin up the venue. I say again Snoop, Eazy, Mc Eiht, Quik, you knew where they was from but they did it so creatively in the music and had been grinding for so long in the game that niggas had to respect it. It's like these younger cats is throwin it in ya face and saying look at me I will be from RSC till I die or Im from Huntaz. Nigga go plat first or even gold then u may have some lead way to that shit. Them niggaz is limiting themselves from going to hood star to superstar. Its all good though I am just saying this from being an owner of an inide label myself. I dont want to have to worry about shows getting shot up or my artist potentially being murdered, but to each his own. I wish them nothing but success.
www.outrageousrecords.com
Jay Rock is signed to a MAJOR. By someone in Top Dawg I do not mean another artist. Jay Rock is not hurting at all he does more shows than you think.
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it is not hurting the booking...it is the refusal to do abc songs that is holding them back...I know people in the Top Dawg camp Jay Rock is making more money than you guys think
You really think Jay Rock gettin money? It all depends on what you think getting money is. All I can say is that he is signed to an indie label which does not belong to him he is just an artist on it. He is not seeing what u think he might be seeing. I wish him the best and hope he is gettin dough but dont let these rappers fool u. Them niggaz is still in the hood or living right around the corner from it. U think that joint with lil wayne he did was just becuase weezy likes him? Hell no his label had to chip weezy off. Jay Rock is probably still having to pay for that. I feel u the nigga go hard in the paint but the in ya face I'm a blood shit eliminates alot of things you can do from a music perspective and also from a marketing and sponsorship perspective. Trust me niggaz think twice about booking these cats for the simple of fact of what they represent but more less how they represent it and the potential danger of rival gangs fuckin up the venue. I say again Snoop, Eazy, Mc Eiht, Quik, you knew where they was from but they did it so creatively in the music and had been grinding for so long in the game that niggas had to respect it. It's like these younger cats is throwin it in ya face and saying look at me I will be from RSC till I die or Im from Huntaz. Nigga go plat first or even gold then u may have some lead way to that shit. Them niggaz is limiting themselves from going to hood star to superstar. Its all good though I am just saying this from being an owner of an inide label myself. I dont want to have to worry about shows getting shot up or my artist potentially being murdered, but to each his own. I wish them nothing but success.
www.outrageousrecords.com
Jay Rock is signed to a MAJOR. By someone in Top Dawg I do not mean another artist. Jay Rock is not hurting at all he does more shows than you think.
What major is Jay Rock signed to? Please show me some proof that he is on a major and if he is on a major he is probably hurting even worse especially if he has a 360 deal. But fa real what major?
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it is not hurting the booking...it is the refusal to do abc songs that is holding them back...I know people in the Top Dawg camp Jay Rock is making more money than you guys think
You really think Jay Rock gettin money? It all depends on what you think getting money is. All I can say is that he is signed to an indie label which does not belong to him he is just an artist on it. He is not seeing what u think he might be seeing. I wish him the best and hope he is gettin dough but dont let these rappers fool u. Them niggaz is still in the hood or living right around the corner from it. U think that joint with lil wayne he did was just becuase weezy likes him? Hell no his label had to chip weezy off. Jay Rock is probably still having to pay for that. I feel u the nigga go hard in the paint but the in ya face I'm a blood shit eliminates alot of things you can do from a music perspective and also from a marketing and sponsorship perspective. Trust me niggaz think twice about booking these cats for the simple of fact of what they represent but more less how they represent it and the potential danger of rival gangs fuckin up the venue. I say again Snoop, Eazy, Mc Eiht, Quik, you knew where they was from but they did it so creatively in the music and had been grinding for so long in the game that niggas had to respect it. It's like these younger cats is throwin it in ya face and saying look at me I will be from RSC till I die or Im from Huntaz. Nigga go plat first or even gold then u may have some lead way to that shit. Them niggaz is limiting themselves from going to hood star to superstar. Its all good though I am just saying this from being an owner of an inide label myself. I dont want to have to worry about shows getting shot up or my artist potentially being murdered, but to each his own. I wish them nothing but success.
www.outrageousrecords.com
Jay Rock is signed to a MAJOR. By someone in Top Dawg I do not mean another artist. Jay Rock is not hurting at all he does more shows than you think.
What major is Jay Rock signed to? Please show me some proof that he is on a major and if he is on a major he is probably hurting even worse especially if he has a 360 deal. But fa real what major?
Jay Rock has been signed to Warner Brothers for years homie. He had a major deal since I heard of him. I been listening to him since 06 so he has had a deal with them at least since then.
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Your obviously ignorant then. Have a look and listen homie and stay on top of ya game before commenting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxGu3UpRvXY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4axhLdw74k
WTF? You say I'm ignorant and yet put up links to songs with titles like "Blood Nigga" or "Six Owe." Dope songs but still focused on gangbanging, come back when you actually have something to prove ;).
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This is what West Coast niggaz be talking about. It's okay for everyone to do it but us! And Nipsey has stepped his game up. Bullets 1 & 2 were raw, str8 from from the turf. Bullets 3 demonstrated his evolution as an artist. But then again, it's okay for Lil Wayne, Birdman, Jim Jones, Gucci and folks to be flagged up but if West Coast niggaz do it, run the opposite direction. Oh and as far as promoters not wanting to book people like Nipsey, he's done shows in Conservation ass Orange County so booking isn't an issue if the demand is there.
This nigga said orange county!! LMAO!! Nigga stop it. Noone says its cool for them down south niggaz to do it. I hate the fact they do it. i find it insulting. Make good music its like my nigga said the other cats did it more creative than these new niggaz is doing now.
www.outrageousrecords.com
Do not laugh at the orange county music scene. I see you have a link to a record label at the bottom of your post. Then you should really know better as someone in music if it is yours. These white kids out here really get down with the music and yes, there are Black folks out here too. These white kids do buy tickets and support artist. 40 water, Too Short as well as a few others do shows out here all the time and I'm not just talking at major venues.
As as far as Southern niggaz, even though you and most of use here out West find it insulting, you know you must admit that the industry has complained and played the west because of the flaggin' but have nothing to say when these other cats do it. Matter of fact, the industry promotes them. And on the same ticket, the industry complains about us and says that "oh, that's all west coast rappers can do, they don't have any real talent" but then they turn around and the only West Coast acts they sign and promote are gangsta rappers.
you missing the point, and even rap that claimed sets heavy "banging on wax" that was done out here before and it had an impact, but you still see the equals who did it more creatively blew up more, now i ain't like all that shit wayne and them do at all,but it's fresh to them especially in n.o. because it ain't really been done that big out there before,plus that muthafucca do a gang of pop songs as singles and slide a reference into them shits, is it lame hell yea. yell
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Your obviously ignorant then. Have a look and listen homie and stay on top of ya game before commenting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxGu3UpRvXY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4axhLdw74k
WTF? You say I'm ignorant and yet put up links to songs with titles like "Blood Nigga" or "Six Owe." Dope songs but still focused on gangbanging, come back when you actually have something to prove ;).
That's my bad fam I read your response totally wrong. A real nigga knows when he has made a mistake an owns up to it so thats my fault
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That's my bad fam I read your response totally wrong. A real nigga knows when he has made a mistake an owns up to it so thats my fault
Aight, it's all good 8).
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This is what West Coast niggaz be talking about. It's okay for everyone to do it but us! And Nipsey has stepped his game up. Bullets 1 & 2 were raw, str8 from from the turf. Bullets 3 demonstrated his evolution as an artist. But then again, it's okay for Lil Wayne, Birdman, Jim Jones, Gucci and folks to be flagged up but if West Coast niggaz do it, run the opposite direction. Oh and as far as promoters not wanting to book people like Nipsey, he's done shows in Conservation ass Orange County so booking isn't an issue if the demand is there.
This nigga said orange county!! LMAO!! Nigga stop it. Noone says its cool for them down south niggaz to do it. I hate the fact they do it. i find it insulting. Make good music its like my nigga said the other cats did it more creative than these new niggaz is doing now.
www.outrageousrecords.com
Do not laugh at the orange county music scene. I see you have a link to a record label at the bottom of your post. Then you should really know better as someone in music if it is yours. These white kids out here really get down with the music and yes, there are Black folks out here too. These white kids do buy tickets and support artist. 40 water, Too Short as well as a few others do shows out here all the time and I'm not just talking at major venues.
As as far as Southern niggaz, even though you and most of use here out West find it insulting, you know you must admit that the industry has complained and played the west because of the flaggin' but have nothing to say when these other cats do it. Matter of fact, the industry promotes them. And on the same ticket, the industry complains about us and says that "oh, that's all west coast rappers can do, they don't have any real talent" but then they turn around and the only West Coast acts they sign and promote are gangsta rappers.
you missing the point, and even rap that claimed sets heavy "banging on wax" that was done out here before and it had an impact, but you still see the equals who did it more creatively blew up more, now i ain't like all that shit wayne and them do at all,but it's fresh to them especially in n.o. because it ain't really been done that big out there before,plus that muthafucca do a gang of pop songs as singles and slide a reference into them shits, is it lame hell yea. yell
Nah folk, who cares if it's new out there, it's still already been done. And it still doesn't change the fact that the industry co-signs dudes like Wayne and Jones but then turn around and talk shit on West Coast rappers. A hypocrite is still a hypocrite no matter how much they reason it. And i think you missed the part about Nip evolving as an artist. His first two mixtapes were raw and the third showed his evolution as an artist and song writer with less references to the 60's. And you act like Jay Rock hasn't done the same. I'll admit, Rocks buzz has already begun to fizzle out but he hasn't been a one trick gangbanging pony.