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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: OG Hack Wilson on November 28, 2010, 08:28:42 PM
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we have no good MNF game so i'll do them early
1-Jets
2-Patriots
3-Falcons
4-Ravens
5-Steelers
6-Chargers
7-Saints
8-Bears (great win for them today)
9-Eagles
10-Packers
not gonna bother with a bottom 5, just put Carolina last
by the way the Raiders are back to sucking again
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Thank God you left the Colts out. The Saints haven't shown me all that much yet though. Same goes for the Chargers. Eagles, Bears and Packers are all way better than SD, and I might even have them above NE, and Pit.
And if KC, and it's not a small if, revenge beat downs the Broncos and then can 2-0 against the Chargers then the Bolts go and the Chiefs make the top ten. They smashed a very good Seattle in Seattle today and everything seems to be clicking with that team on offense and defense. Now they just need their special teams back in the fold and they'll be dangerous. I think the winner of the West will come out of that SD/KC game because both have possible wins for the rest of the season.
The problem is I don't think KC can go into any of the bye week teams and win, except NE. But I can't seem then winning in New York, Pit, or Baltimore.
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Thank God you left the Colts out. The Saints haven't shown me all that much yet though. Same goes for the Chargers. Eagles, Bears and Packers are all way better than SD, and I might even have them above NE, and Pit.
And if KC, and it's not a small if, revenge beat downs the Broncos and then can 2-0 against the Chargers then the Bolts go and the Chiefs make the top ten. They smashed a very good Seattle in Seattle today and everything seems to be clicking with that team on offense and defense. Now they just need their special teams back in the fold and they'll be dangerous. I think the winner of the West will come out of that SD/KC game because both have possible wins for the rest of the season.
The problem is I don't think KC can go into any of the bye week teams and win, except NE. But I can't seem then winning in New York, Pit, or Baltimore.
KC can't beat the PAtriots either
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1. Falcons
2. Patriots
3. Jets
4. Saints
5. Bears
6. Ravens
7. Steelers
8. Saints
9. Chargers
10. Eagles
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Thank God you left the Colts out. The Saints haven't shown me all that much yet though. Same goes for the Chargers. Eagles, Bears and Packers are all way better than SD, and I might even have them above NE, and Pit.
And if KC, and it's not a small if, revenge beat downs the Broncos and then can 2-0 against the Chargers then the Bolts go and the Chiefs make the top ten. They smashed a very good Seattle in Seattle today and everything seems to be clicking with that team on offense and defense. Now they just need their special teams back in the fold and they'll be dangerous. I think the winner of the West will come out of that SD/KC game because both have possible wins for the rest of the season.
The problem is I don't think KC can go into any of the bye week teams and win, except NE. But I can't seem then winning in New York, Pit, or Baltimore.
KC can't beat the PAtriots either
Yes they can. I'm not saying they will, but Romeo Crennel and Charlie Wies have prepared their whole decade around being able to beat a Bill Bellicheck team. And together against Bill they can win.
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Jets & Pats play for #1 this weekend.
But since the Jets have already beaten them this year, Jets get #1 right now. 8)
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ugh eagles, if asante samuels plays, they win, if vick doesnt throw that red zone pick, they would likely have won as well, after that huge 10-14 pt swing, and momentum change, everything just came crashing down, cutler was looking like payton manning out there against an inexperienced secondary, and forte runs 117, a LOT of holes in eagles defense, and the offense has shown now, 2 weeks in a row, that against a GOOD defense, vick and the high powered offense aren't so high powered, (sidebar: that vick pass to celek was incredible (nice catch too) i mean, i dont know how he got it in there, nuts)
shallow you called the home field (and it's importance overall) for the atlanta/gb game, and now it's most likely that atlanta will have the best record in the nfc, making them VERY difficult to beat in the palyoffs [all these eagles fans annoying me, that yea we beat atlanta, but that dont mean shit, cause they way they are playing now, is nuts].
damn payton, he was getting no protection, i felt bad for him, the first two picks you cant really blame it on him, i cant remember the 3rd, but i think that was was his fault, i think with that win SD will come back and win that division.
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ugh eagles, if asante samuels plays, they win, if vick doesnt throw that red zone pick, they would likely have won as well, after that huge 10-14 pt swing, and momentum change, everything just came crashing down, cutler was looking like payton manning out there against an inexperienced secondary, and forte runs 117, a LOT of holes in eagles defense, and the offense has shown now, 2 weeks in a row, that against a GOOD defense, vick and the high powered offense aren't so high powered, (sidebar: that vick pass to celek was incredible (nice catch too) i mean, i dont know how he got it in there, nuts)
shallow you called the home field (and it's importance overall) for the atlanta/gb game, and now it's most likely that atlanta will have the best record in the nfc, making them VERY difficult to beat in the palyoffs [all these eagles fans annoying me, that yea we beat atlanta, but that dont mean shit, cause they way they are playing now, is nuts].
damn payton, he was getting no protection, i felt bad for him, the first two picks you cant really blame it on him, i cant remember the 3rd, but i think that was was his fault, i think with that win SD will come back and win that division.
The third pick was the BS one. It was clearly pass interference on Wayne and the hold and thrust was what actually lead to the DB being able to get the ball. I think of the 4 the only one that I really blamed Manning for was the first one. I know he was hit but he should know better than to think he has WRs that fight for their spot.
And can people stop bragging about Wayne finally. He may be the best #2 WR of the last ten years, but that's all he is, a #2. And in an offense like the Colts have they need a true #1. Add a real #1 guy to that team and all of a sudden everything changes. Just one guy that will fight for their spot and not just expect the ball to be there or give up. Garcon can't finish routes, Reggie's too often too scared of getting hit, either by the defense or the ground. Bolden was the pick up they needed and he would have been the difference in at least 3 of these losses. If they fall to 9-7 or worse I can only imagine what Irsay is going to say to Peyton to keep him. Because I wouldn't even bother trying as an owner.
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^ahhh yea, can't believe i forgot that one, that call was really bad, he pretty much threw wayne out of the way and got the interception.
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^ahhh yea, can't believe i forgot that one, that call was really bad, he pretty much threw wayne out of the way and got the interception.
I'm actually glad it happened. I'm sick of hearing how the NFL goes out of it's way to protect Manning. As long as Tom Brady and Phillip Rivers are even in the discussion with Manning the NFL is insulting him. I'll allow Vick for now, because at least I know he has the over all talent to keep plays alive and that would work in Indy. Brady and Rivers would get absolutely wrecked playing in Indy with that offensive line. Ben would be able to make plays in Indy too, but it'd be hard with out a guy like Ward to fight for his spot.
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^ahhh yea, can't believe i forgot that one, that call was really bad, he pretty much threw wayne out of the way and got the interception.
agreed
colts g ot screwed
but as Shallow pointed out it's just proof that the NFL is not on manning's nuts
now Tom Brady on the other hand...all he has to go is cry for a flag and BAM they throw one (lol im sure every QB has done this at one point but Brady got called out by Rodney Harrison for it)
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^ahhh yea, can't believe i forgot that one, that call was really bad, he pretty much threw wayne out of the way and got the interception.
agreed
colts g ot screwed
but as Shallow pointed out it's just proof that the NFL is not on manning's nuts
now Tom Brady on the other hand...all he has to go is cry for a flag and BAM they throw one (lol im sure every QB has done this at one point but Brady got called out by Rodney Harrison for it)
The difference between the two and the only thing I will say Brady is better at, a lot better, than Manning is selling the game to the outside market. Manning is the biggest star inside the football community; the pop warner kids and parents, the high school players, the Sunday watch-a-thon guys, and the fat guys in Chicago that sit around bars saying "Da Baressss".
Tom Brady is like Joe DiMaggio. Plenty of women and yuppie type dweebs that don't really watch football sit around saying "omg he's so hot" or "dude, Tom Brady is awesome!". It sounds silly to the Football crowd but the NFL is a business and a guy like Brady helps with the image. If Mike Vick left his pregnant girlfiend for a supermodel, believe me we'd all hear about it every few weeks. He really is the Joe Namath of the modern era, not the Joe Montana. And if Broadway Joe had the Charlie Wies offense of dink and dunk he'd have the exact same numbers and rings as Brady playing for the Pats. But like Joe, if you take Brady away from a cushy machine like offense and make him make throws all day he'll get more INTs than TDs.
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all brady aside though, you can't deny Patriots playing some great football, i really can't wait for the monday night football game, and even if they lose to the jets, i still wont count them out for the superbowl, the 3 wins against one team is HARD, even with the home field advantage.
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all brady aside though, you can't deny Patriots playing some great football, i really can't wait for the monday night football game, and even if they lose to the jets, i still wont count them out for the superbowl, the 3 wins against one team is HARD, even with the home field advantage.
I've always had the greatest respect for that team. Remember I was the one that predicted 11-5 the second Brady got hurt in 08. This is a very well prepared and well coached team that always stands a solid chance at a Superbowl, but they better hope they get the 1 or 2 seed, because if they get the Wildcard and have to play the first playoff game on the road in either SD, KC, or Indy they'll have a hard time. They'll eat Jacksonville alive though. Garrard isn't all that good and against a Bill Bellicheck scheme he'll get killed.
If the Pats win the East then the only teams that can, (and it'll be iffy), beat them are Jets, the Steelers, the Ravens or themselves.
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Brady > God.
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Brady > God.
Only if you're an atheist. Because that means God is nothing, and even Brady is greater than nothing. Not by much, but still greater. There might also be a pagan god or two Brady is greater than. Maybe Cupid, I don't know. Actually, no way, Cupid's hits some tough targets with his arrow. Brady needs wide open targets that still have to adjust for the ball. Oh, wait, I know; Cronus, the father of Zeus. To protect his place on top of the universe he ate his children at birth to prevent the prophecy of his son overthrowing him from coming true. Zeus was born in secret and he eventually killed his father and saved his siblings, thus creating the 12 Gods of Olympus. Brady just runs out on his kids, he doesn't try and eat them. So Brady>God (for atheists) and Brady>Father of ancient Greek Gods.
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Brady > God.
Only if you're an atheist. Because that means God is nothing, and even Brady is greater than nothing. Not by much, but still greater. There might also be a pagan god or two Brady is greater than. Maybe Cupid, I don't know. Actually, no way, Cupid's hits some tough targets with his arrow. Brady needs wide open targets that still have to adjust for the ball. Oh, wait, I know; Cronus, the father of Zeus. To protect his place on top of the universe he ate his children at birth to prevent the prophecy of his son overthrowing him from coming true. Zeus was born in secret and he eventually killed his father and saved his siblings, thus creating the 12 Gods of Olympus. Brady just runs out on his kids, he doesn't try and eat them. So Brady>God (for atheists) and Brady>Father of ancient Greek Gods.
When Cupid can hit 50 targets in a season, call me.
Someone sounds very aggravated that Brady is doing wonderfully without Randy Moss & Peyton Manning just went back to back weeks throwing 3 picks. ;D
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Brady > God.
Only if you're an atheist. Because that means God is nothing, and even Brady is greater than nothing. Not by much, but still greater. There might also be a pagan god or two Brady is greater than. Maybe Cupid, I don't know. Actually, no way, Cupid's hits some tough targets with his arrow. Brady needs wide open targets that still have to adjust for the ball. Oh, wait, I know; Cronus, the father of Zeus. To protect his place on top of the universe he ate his children at birth to prevent the prophecy of his son overthrowing him from coming true. Zeus was born in secret and he eventually killed his father and saved his siblings, thus creating the 12 Gods of Olympus. Brady just runs out on his kids, he doesn't try and eat them. So Brady>God (for atheists) and Brady>Father of ancient Greek Gods.
When Cupid can hit 50 targets in a season, call me.
Someone sounds very aggravated that Brady is doing wonderfully without Randy Moss & Peyton Manning just went back to back weeks throwing 3 picks. ;D
I'm pretty sure more than 50 couples a year fall in love. Brady is doing on par with Kyle Orton and Matt Cassel, who both don't have Moss or a Moss type WR but both play in more or less the exact same offense Brady plays in.
I don't know how anyone here can still argue with me. I predicted 11-5 when Brady got hurt. I predicted Kyle Orton to have big numbers with or with out Marshall. I predicted Matt Cassel to stink it up last year, and then predicted him to come alive this year when Wies got involved. These are all things I said would happen before they did. I even predicted last Sunday's Colts loss and said they'd have no answer on the line against SD. So when I say the Pats would be just fine with out Brady and Brady will end up like Moss with out the Pats, I think I have some ground to stand on.
And if you think your Jets would have a better shot at winning with Brady instead of Manning, you're fooling yourself.
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^Doesn't matter. Winning is winning, it doesn't matter if you do it by 42 or 14. Of course we'd have a "better" chance with Manning, but we'd still win the Super Bowl with Brady.
Nobody said Brady was better than Peyton. This is debate that Brady is better than more than "nothing".
& don't make me dig it up, but you clearly said the Pats wouldn't be as good without Moss. I clearly remember this when they waived him.
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^Doesn't matter. Winning is winning, it doesn't matter if you do it by 42 or 14. Of course we'd have a "better" chance with Manning, but we'd still win the Super Bowl with Brady.
Nobody said Brady was better than Peyton. This is debate that Brady is better than more than "nothing".
& don't make me dig it up, but you clearly said the Pats wouldn't be as good without Moss. I clearly remember this when they waived him.
And they aren't as good with out Moss. I never said they were done with out him. Numbers are down, but the defense has gotten better. The offense is still chugging along, but no way are the "better" with Tate instead of Moss. Of course this was said before they signed Branch who has been a key in the offense. When Branch was signed I knew they'd dink and dunk just fine, but they aren't as good a team with out Moss. Except for the game in New York against the Jets they were averaging 40 point s game with Moss. The next 4 games after Moss left they averaged 20. The Steelers shot themselves in the foot by not running the ball and the other two games were against the two worst Ds in the league.
Winning is winning and with Tom Brady instead of Sanchez last year the Colts still would have beaten the Jets, because Peyton Manning was on the other side. If Peyton wasn't on the Colts and on the Jets then the Jets would be going for back to back rings this year.
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^lol, "If Revis was on the Saints, they would be going back to back", "If a healthy Adrian Peterson was on the Packers, they would be a lock for the Superbowl", "If Philip Rivers broke his leg tomorrow, the Chargers would be finished". Too many if's.
If the Jets had Tom Brady & threw more often, making a weak Colts D off balance, then mixing it in with the best run attack in the league, whose to say we couldn't of score 35 points? & why would the addition of Brady make the Colts score more than 30? It's still the same defense.
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^lol, "If Revis was on the Saints, they would be going back to back", "If a healthy Adrian Peterson was on the Packers, they would be a lock for the Superbowl", "If Philip Rivers broke his leg tomorrow, the Chargers would be finished". Too many if's.
If the Jets had Tom Brady & threw more often, making a weak Colts D off balance, then mixing it in with the best run attack in the league, whose to say we couldn't of score 35 points? & why would the addition of Brady make the Colts score more than 30? It's still the same defense.
Sanchez on that day played as well as Brady could have and they lost because Peyton had one of those days that the Colts too often count on him having, and Peyton on the Jets would have have eaten alive the Saints with Revis, Rod Woodson and Deon Sanders. The Saints aren't that good. If Peyton simply didn't have that game h had the Jets would have won the SB.
You might with the SB this year with Brady. You might even with it with Sanchez. I wouldn't be shocked if the Jets won. The difference is with Peyton I'd be shocked if the Jets didn't win. With Peyton you get Peyton's offense. Brady doesn't bring an offense with him. He wouldn't be much better than Sanchez. He'd be Sanchez at his best every week, but not better than Sanchez om a hot day. You'd have been better than 9-7 and have won the East but you still would have lost to the Colts.
Now if you had Brady and Mcdaniels, Brady and Wies that'd be one thing, but the Jets are built to run. They don't have the blockers for dink and dunk screen plays or the protection to warrant 40 to 50 attempts a game. You wouldn't pass all that much more with Peyton either, but with Peyton you'd have to respect the pass so much that LT and Shonn Greene would eat teams live when defense drop back in coverage, and if they stuff the box then Peyton will fade route your ass off. Brady can't throw those kind of fades, not consistently enough to make it a threat. He needs extended time in the pocket for bombs or route breaks.
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I'm a fan of Sanchez, but it's unquestionable to put him & Tom Brady in the same sentence.
Easily has to make a Top 10 QB's of all-time list, where Mark isn't even in the Top 10, even 15 this season.
I'm not denying it's an automatic ring with Peyton & would be an easier a ride; but it's still as close as you can get to automatic with Brady.
You can say it's 100% chance of winning with Peyton, but it's still like 95% with Brady.
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I'm a fan of Sanchez, but it's unquestionable to put him & Tom Brady in the same sentence.
Easily has to make a Top 10 QB's of all-time list, where Mark isn't even in the Top 10, even 15 this season.
I'm not denying it's an automatic ring with Peyton & would be an easier a ride; but it's still as close as you can get to automatic with Brady.
You can say it's 100% chance of winning with Peyton, but it's still like 95% with Brady.
Not automatic. You're seeing Brady in a system built to make QBs look good. We've seen how bad Orton can be, and how bad Cassel can be. Why is it so hard to accept for people that Brady's fate would be the same as theirs, and Bledsoe's if he had o leave that situation. Brady could go elsewhere and succeed but it's not automatic. If he took Brees's spot in New Orleans they'd be alright. Ryan's spot in Atlanta, or Flacco's in Baltimore. He'd get killed in Pit and Fitz is a way better fit for Buffalo. Brady can't sling it. He doesn't have the arm or the nerves. He can stay in the pocket and look for the open man very well, but when the man's not open and he has to thread it, forget about it. Brady would do great in SD but he'd die in Indy. And in NYJ he wouldn't mean that much. It'd still be a run first team with Brady never being able to get in rhythm. Brady on the Jets would look like Orton did on the Bears.
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How bout them Chiefs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man if they win it all a lot of people have to get off Brady's dick. Two games up on the Chargers. They win next week and they'll walk into the playoffs. I doubt a bye week but we can hope.
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How bout them Chiefs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man if they win it all a lot of people have to get off Brady's dick. Two games up on the Chargers. They win next week and they'll walk into the playoffs. I doubt a bye week but we can hope.
No shot of winning a Superbowl. I'd put a large sum on that.
But when Cassell leads a Superbowl winning drive, I'll just consider him great, I won't take away from others.
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How bout them Chiefs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man if they win it all a lot of people have to get off Brady's dick. Two games up on the Chargers. They win next week and they'll walk into the playoffs. I doubt a bye week but we can hope.
No shot of winning a Superbowl. I'd put a large sum on that.
But when Cassell leads a Superbowl winning drive, I'll just consider him great, I won't take away from others.
But I won't. I'll just consider him lucky to be on a team that can win a Superbowl. The kind of luck Dan Marino never had.
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if the shitty-ass Chiefs win the fucking superbowl this year I'll paint my car red and get a yellow bumper lmao thats how confident i'd be there
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if the shitty-ass Chiefs win the fucking superbowl this year I'll paint my car red and get a yellow bumper lmao thats how confident i'd be there
If they look this good after hakf a season of the new OC and DC and a very young team, imagine how good they could look in a couple years. I'm not betting on them winning it this year, but I would be shocked if they didn't become a strong contender in the next few years. Unless Haley's stupid gambles do them in.
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if the shitty-ass Chiefs win the fucking superbowl this year I'll paint my car red and get a yellow bumper lmao thats how confident i'd be there
If they look this good after hakf a season of the new OC and DC and a very young team, imagine how good they could look in a couple years. I'm not betting on them winning it this year, but I would be shocked if they didn't become a strong contender in the next few years. Unless Haley's stupid gambles do them in.
they are 8-4 whcih is impressive, but the division their in is garbage
still deserving of a playoff spot (unlike the nfc west)
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if the shitty-ass Chiefs win the fucking superbowl this year I'll paint my car red and get a yellow bumper lmao thats how confident i'd be there
If they look this good after hakf a season of the new OC and DC and a very young team, imagine how good they could look in a couple years. I'm not betting on them winning it this year, but I would be shocked if they didn't become a strong contender in the next few years. Unless Haley's stupid gambles do them in.
they are 8-4 whcih is impressive, but the division their in is garbage
still deserving of a playoff spot (unlike the nfc west)
The AFC West isn't all that garbage anymore. The Chargers are the Chargers, Denver can put up a fight against most teams and Oakland is tougher than they've been in a while. I'd put up the AFC West against the AFC South, NFC West and guarantee victory. I also think they'd give the NFC North a run for it's money, and find away to split with a couple other divisions. 8-4 is 8-4, no matter how you slice it. Now the question is will they finish closer to 12-4 or 8-8. If they win next week then they can wrap it up as far as I'm concerned, because 10-6 will win this division, and no way do they go 0-3 after beating SD in SD with two home games to close out the season. If they lose next week then they better close out with 2-0 because losing in SD then traveling to St Louis will be tough.
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if the shitty-ass Chiefs win the fucking superbowl this year I'll paint my car red and get a yellow bumper lmao thats how confident i'd be there
If they look this good after hakf a season of the new OC and DC and a very young team, imagine how good they could look in a couple years. I'm not betting on them winning it this year, but I would be shocked if they didn't become a strong contender in the next few years. Unless Haley's stupid gambles do them in.
they are 8-4 whcih is impressive, but the division their in is garbage
still deserving of a playoff spot (unlike the nfc west)
The AFC West isn't all that garbage anymore. The Chargers are the Chargers, Denver can put up a fight against most teams and Oakland is tougher than they've been in a while. I'd put up the AFC West against the AFC South, NFC West and guarantee victory. I also think they'd give the NFC North a run for it's money, and find away to split with a couple other divisions. 8-4 is 8-4, no matter how you slice it. Now the question is will they finish closer to 12-4 or 8-8. If they win next week then they can wrap it up as far as I'm concerned, because 10-6 will win this division, and no way do they go 0-3 after beating SD in SD with two home games to close out the season. If they lose next week then they better close out with 2-0 because losing in SD then traveling to St Louis will be tough.
the 4 best teams in the AFC reside in the east and north
i consider the other two divsions crap this year
btw week 14 is up for those who are interested http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=259480.0
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if the shitty-ass Chiefs win the fucking superbowl this year I'll paint my car red and get a yellow bumper lmao thats how confident i'd be there
If they look this good after hakf a season of the new OC and DC and a very young team, imagine how good they could look in a couple years. I'm not betting on them winning it this year, but I would be shocked if they didn't become a strong contender in the next few years. Unless Haley's stupid gambles do them in.
they are 8-4 whcih is impressive, but the division their in is garbage
still deserving of a playoff spot (unlike the nfc west)
The AFC West isn't all that garbage anymore. The Chargers are the Chargers, Denver can put up a fight against most teams and Oakland is tougher than they've been in a while. I'd put up the AFC West against the AFC South, NFC West and guarantee victory. I also think they'd give the NFC North a run for it's money, and find away to split with a couple other divisions. 8-4 is 8-4, no matter how you slice it. Now the question is will they finish closer to 12-4 or 8-8. If they win next week then they can wrap it up as far as I'm concerned, because 10-6 will win this division, and no way do they go 0-3 after beating SD in SD with two home games to close out the season. If they lose next week then they better close out with 2-0 because losing in SD then traveling to St Louis will be tough.
the 4 best teams in the AFC reside in the east and north
i consider the other two divsions crap this year
btw week 14 is up for those who are interested http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=259480.0
But if 2 of those 4 best AFC teams cane barely beat the Bills and need a lot of ref help (Baltimore) and a dropped pass in the endzone to do it then KC can beat those teams. They can also beat NE, and don't tell me Romeo couldn't find a way to rattle Sanchez and win out a close one.
All I'm saying is the Chiefs winning the AFC isn't as shocking as the Cowboys winning out, the Eagles and Giants losing out and the Boys going in. When you can run the ball like KC and stop the run like KC you have the ability to beat anyone anywhere.