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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite on August 05, 2025, 04:33:41 AM
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Dre 2001
^^What a horrible and confusing title. Released in 1999 and yet it's called 2001 cause Suge stole Dre's Chronic 2 title. But couldn't he of just called it like "Chronic—the Sequal" or some shit like that. It's not hard.
Worst Album Titles (from otherwise dope albums)
1. 2001
2. No Limit Top Dogg
3. Take a Look Over Your Shoulder
4. 2pacalypse Now
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Not so bad when you put things in perspective. chronic 2001= the sound of the new millenium (21st), 2000 would still be twentieth (just because you change the thousands don't mean nothing). 2001 is effectively year 1. Think about that
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Dre 2001
^^What a horrible and confusing title. Released in 1999 and yet it's called 2001 cause Suge stole Dre's Chronic 2 title. But couldn't he of just called it like "Chronic—the Sequal" or some shit like that. It's not hard.
I remember when I first bought it and never knew what to call it, "2001", "Dr. Dre 2001" or "Chronic 2001"
i mean it has the leaf right before the 2001 on the front cover so that's what I went with ;D
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it's supposed to be "the chronic 2001"
the album was originally to be titled "the chronic 2000" but suge got a wind of that and beat him to the punch
classic suge rolling
so dre went and called his "the chronic 2001" .. which was later shortened to "2001"
Yeah, which is horrible album title. "2001". Try using that in a conversation it will automatically cause confusion.
"I like the 2001 tracks"
"Oh cool, yeah, that was a good year in music, Eastsidaz Dueces and Treys and Nas Stillmatic."
"No, I'm talking about the album "2001" by Dr. Dre."
"Dre didn't release an album in 2001"
...it almost becomes like Abbot and Costello bit "who's on first"
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I remember when I first bought it and never knew what to call it, "2001", "Dr. Dre 2001" or "Chronic 2001"
i mean it has the leaf right before the 2001 on the front cover so that's what I went with ;D
yes, and we never really have figured out what to call it. It's almost like the album just doesn't get mentioned a lot of times, just because people don't know what to call it. Dre puts in all that hard work and then just blows off the title. Isn't he a perfectionist?
And he's usually good at that kind of stuff. He saw Xzibit with a tattoo saying Restless, and was like "that's your album title".
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yes, and we never really have figured out what to call it. It's almost like the album just doesn't get mentioned a lot of times, just because people don't know what to call it. Dre puts in all that hard work and then just blows off the title. Isn't he a perfectionist?
And he's usually good at that kind of stuff. He saw Xzibit with a tattoo saying Restless, and was like "that's your album title".
Does "restless" title has anything to the with the album overall?
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Ima go with "efil4zaggin"... the fuck!!??
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Ima go with "efil4zaggin"... the fuck!!??
Really? You don’t know the story behind this or you just trolling
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this is the first i'm ever hearing this about 2001 .. the music made the title iconic
and efil4zaggin is iconic
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Yeah, which is horrible album title. "2001". Try using that in a conversation it will automatically cause confusion.
"I like the 2001 tracks"
"Oh cool, yeah, that was a good year in music, Eastsidaz Dueces and Treys and Nas Stillmatic."
"No, I'm talking about the album "2001" by Dr. Dre."
"Dre didn't release an album in 2001"
...it almost becomes like Abbot and Costello bit "who's on first"
Neva heard, been kind a conversation...
Everybody knows 2001...
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Really? You don’t know the story behind this or you just trolling
What i know is yella writes it on a paper and he sees it in the mirror and says lets call it that way. Is there another story?
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I agree with infinite again. Album title could be smth else better than 2001. But i have more problem with the album cover. Is it suge knight's fault too? )))
Although worst album cover and a confusing meaningless album title, the chronic 2001 (actually thats what everybody calls it that way instead 2001) was sooo fucking good to make people doesnt care about the cover or title.
^^someone agrees with me
And notice, you even had to change the title to mention it at the forum. I often do the same thing too. I'll refer to it as "Dre's second solo". And like HighEyecue said, sometimes they say "Dre 2001" and sometimes they say, "Dr. Dre 2001".
And also saying "2001" isn't actually like that futuristic. The first year of the new millenium is 2000. So if you want to give it millennium significance (which is a big deal) then you need to say 2000. Saying 2001 doesn't make it more futuristic. It just makes it more confusing.
And yeah.. what's with the cover. It was like just plain black cover. And this is Dre we are talking about. If Dre doesn't have the idea then he finds the right guy with the right idea. They couldn't come up with any good idea for the title and cover—they just gave up after Suge punked him
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What i know is yella writes it on a paper and he sees it in the mirror and says lets call it that way. Is there another story?
I didn't have a problem with this album title. It's actually dope and fits the theme of the album. Even funnier is when you are a kid and you actually don't get what it means and it takes you a long time to figure it out ;D
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^^someone agrees with me
And notice, you even had to change the title to mention it at the forum. I often do the same thing too. I'll refer to it as "Dre's second solo". And like HighEyecue said, sometimes they say "Dre 2001" and sometimes they say, "Dr. Dre 2001".
And also saying "2001" isn't actually like that futuristic. The first year of the new millenium is 2000. So if you want to give it millennium significance (which is a big deal) then you need to say 2000. Saying 2001 doesn't make it more futuristic. It just makes it more confusing.
And yeah.. what's with the cover. It was like just plain black cover. And this is Dre we are talking about. If Dre doesn't have the idea then he finds the right guy with the right idea. They couldn't come up with any good idea for the title and cover—they just gave up after Suge punked him
2001 is the new millennium
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2001 is the new millennium
see, you just broke my brain again... first with the DP, DPG, DPGC acronym controversy... and now, I've always thought 2000 was the new millennium, January 1st 2000.
And yet now folks trying to tell me Dre went next level cause 2001 is actually the new millennium (not 2000). ???
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2001 january the first is the starting of the 21. Century.
This is a fact.
What kind of teacher R U?!
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I refer to Dr. Dre's album as Chronic 2001 nowadays in conversation when I used to just call it 2001. I think that is the actual title of the album since you have the Chronic leaf before 2001 on the front cover.
It kinda reminds me of the 7 Day Theory album which I think should actually be referred to as Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, but its confusing because the spine of the album writes it all out as 'Makaveli the Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory' so people never really know what to call it. It's the same with Snoop's No Limit Top Dogg album to an extent.
As for worst album titles, the self-titled ones always come across as a bit unimaginative - Cypress Hill, Mack 10, Spice 1 etc.
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I refer to Dr. Dre's album as Chronic 2001 nowadays in conversation when I used to just call it 2001. I think that is the actual title of the album since you have the Chronic leaf before 2001 on the front cover.
It kinda reminds me of the 7 Day Theory album which I think should actually be referred to as Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, but its confusing because the spine of the album writes it all out as 'Makaveli the Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory' so people never really know what to call it. It's the same with Snoop's No Limit Top Dogg album to an extent.
As for worst album titles, the self-titled ones always come across as a bit unimaginative - Cypress Hill, Mack 10, Spice 1 etc.
I never liked that they added the "No Limit" to the "Top Dogg" title...and the front cover always looked so 2nd rate to me with the features listed on it
its a great album though 8)
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I refer to Dr. Dre's album as Chronic 2001 nowadays in conversation when I used to just call it 2001. I think that is the actual title of the album since you have the Chronic leaf before 2001 on the front cover.
It kinda reminds me of the 7 Day Theory album which I think should actually be referred to as Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, but its confusing because the spine of the album writes it all out as 'Makaveli the Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory' so people never really know what to call it. It's the same with Snoop's No Limit Top Dogg album to an extent.
As for worst album titles, the self-titled ones always come across as a bit unimaginative - Cypress Hill, Mack 10, Spice 1 etc.
everyone just calls that album makaveli
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I never liked that they added the "No Limit" to the "Top Dogg" title...and the front cover always looked so 2nd rate to me with the features listed on it
its a great album though 8)
Yeah this ranks up there as well, for worst titles from otherwise dope albums.
1. 2001
2. No Limit Top Dogg (Master P tried everything to ruin this album 💿 like the previous one—but Snoop deserved a lot of credit for rising above his No Limit label mates, and linking back up with his West Coast family to bring back the West Coast and start the second wave of the WC resurgence that all these forums like dubcc sprung from the West resurgence era. Snoops Dogghouse was around in the dog days of 98’ when Kuruption! and Word On The Streetz were the main topics the first time I ever started using the internet regularly.
3. Take a Look Over Your Shoulder
Best Album Titles
1. 7 Day Theory
Good point about the Killuminati often getting forgotten from 2pac’s 7 Day Theory album. It’s true, people don’t really know what to call it—Makeveli or 7 Day Theory or what. But the thing that bothered me the most was the many times I heard that DMX was the first artist to have two platinum albums in one year — just because Pac had the name change the journalists weren’t smart enough to connect the two dots.
But 7 Day Theory is actually the best album title in history because those early days of the internet were flooded with conspiracy theories about 2pac faking his death, and the real life Nicoli Macheveli supposedly faked his death, also 2pac recorded it in 7 days, he was shot on the 7th and died on the 13th which counted as 7 days—and there were so many theories surrounding the number “7” and that album title.
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Really? You don’t know the story behind this or you just trolling
It's even funnier when people purposely say it backwards too. My friends and I used to always say "Love that Efil For Zaggin album"!
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I don't know why, but Warren G's second album title: "Take A Look Over Your Shoulder" always seemed weird to me. I didn't like it, can't really put my finger on why, just seemed like it didn't fit the album theme. There was no track on the album titled that, isn't really referenced in any of the other songs.
On Eastside LB, the Twinz say "We on The Lookout, the latest hit from DJ Warren G" and i know it just meant they are looking for Warren's next hit....but I always thought "THE LOOKOUT" would've been a better title.
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I don't know why, but Warren G's second album title: "Take A Look Over Your Shoulder" always seemed weird to me. I didn't like it, can't really put my finger on why, just seemed like it didn't fit the album theme. There was no track on the album titled that, isn't really referenced in any of the other songs.
On Eastside LB, the Twinz say "We on The Lookout, the latest hit from DJ Warren G" and i know it just meant they are looking for Warren's next hit....but I always thought "THE LOOKOUT" would've been a better title.
“Young Fun” was a banger feat. Jayo Felony — and Warren spits:
Niccaz peepin their shoulder
In every single way/
No sweat, cause if I sweat it
I stay true to the game so I’m not gonna let it
…but anyway I get your point I’m adding it to the list
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“Young Fun” was a banger feat. Jayo Felony — and Warren spits:
Niccaz peepin their shoulder
In every single way/
No sweat, cause if I sweat it
I stay true to the game so I’m not gonna let it
…but anyway I get your point I’m adding it to the list
And he had a song called Transformers, which, the chorus goes "bustaz in disguise"...so I get the idea he was pushing like now he's gotta look over his shoulder because he's famous and bustaz and haters are coming after him. But I don't really think that was the case. Everyone seemed to like Warren when he was blowing up, no one dissed him or criticized him to my knowledge (other than Suge lol).
Bone Thugz get a lot of flack for their constant songs about "haterz" and at least in their case it's somewhat warranted as they did have groups copying them, stealing their flow, hating on them....but I never got that feeling with Warren G.
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DJ Quik, 2 entries for me:
First for bad album title "Rhythm-Al-Ism" One of, if not, his best album, but that name. It's probably a play off something from the 70's era, I've never been able to make the connection, such a weird name.
Then best album title, which hasn't been released yet, if ever, but "David vs. Goliath" I think is an awesome title for a DJ Quik album playing off his real name, David Blake.
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And he had a song called Transformers, which, the chorus goes "bustaz in disguise"...so I get the idea he was pushing like now he's gotta look over his shoulder because he's famous and bustaz and haters are coming after him. But I don't really think that was the case. Everyone seemed to like Warren when he was blowing up, no one dissed him or criticized him to my knowledge (other than Suge lol).
Bone Thugz get a lot of flack for their constant songs about "haterz" and at least in their case it's somewhat warranted as they did have groups copying them, stealing their flow, hating on them....but I never got that feeling with Warren G.
Before I really understood anything about rap lyrics — I do remember wondering what material Bone was going to have left for a follow up to “East 1999”.
It just seemed like there was nothing they could come up with to top it. So when they came with the theme of Art of War and that they were taking on haterz and biters (allegedly all those Chi-town groups like Crucial Conflict, Do Or Die, Twista) it sounded like their best chance to still keep their edge after all the success they had with “Crossroads.”
But yeah, you are right. Not too many were really hatin on them or hatin on Warren or comin for their crown. But it’s still a good strategy, because hiphop was a competitive sport in the golden age—so it was better than nothin
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damn infinite
why u delete that entire entry about your teaching prowess over in the arab gulf?
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Can we discuss 2Pacalypse Now. Like someone higher up at Interscope most likely a white man in his 50's trying to market this debut album
(https://www.anotha.com/img/2pacalypse.jpg)
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Before I really understood anything about rap lyrics — I do remember wondering what material Bone was going to have left for a follow up to “East 1999”.
It just seemed like there was nothing they could come up with to top it. So when they came with the theme of Art of War and that they were taking on haterz and biters (allegedly all those Chi-town groups like Crucial Conflict, Do Or Die, Twista) it sounded like their best chance to still keep their edge after all the success they had with “Crossroads.”
But yeah, you are right. Not too many were really hatin on them or hatin on Warren or comin for their crown. But it’s still a good strategy, because hiphop was a competitive sport in the golden age—so it was better than nothin
Right, once Bone had the Crossroads hit, they left all that occult type rap from E1999. I think they were struggling to find things to rap about. You can tell they lost Eazy's influence once he passed. Eazy was into horror and all that crazy occult type stuff. Made Bone unique.
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Can we discuss 2Pacalypse Now. Like someone higher up at Interscope most likely a white man in his 50's trying to market this debut album
(https://www.anotha.com/img/2pacalypse.jpg)
Eh I actually liked that title. I enjoyed the movie Apocalypse Now and thought it was a clever play on words.
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Can we discuss 2Pacalypse Now. Like someone higher up at Interscope most likely a white man in his 50's trying to market this debut album
(https://www.anotha.com/img/2pacalypse.jpg)
added (yes the title sucks, and the album isn't that great either to tell the truth, Pac became dope when he started making gangsta rap/thug life shit)
...great Seinfeld meme as well, I was actually watching Seinfeld in the background (it's the only thing I watch on Netflix) as I caught the meme
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damn infinite
why u delete that entire entry about your teaching prowess over in the arab gulf?
I thought nobody caught it cause nobody replied, I'm sure it will resurface in a more relevant topic
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Right, once Bone had the Crossroads hit, they left all that occult type rap from E1999. I think they were struggling to find things to rap about. You can tell they lost Eazy's influence once he passed. Eazy was into horror and all that crazy occult type stuff. Made Bone unique.
I know.. I just had a feeling of dread that Art of War was gonna be some big letdown like Doggfather was for me. Remember in the 90's there used to be the concept of "selling out" that isn't such a big thing these days like it used to be. But if you watch the old footage of Bone, the chemistry they had and their relation to the streets of Cleveland was such a big part of their appeal, they were so humble and down to Earth. No way, they could keep that up after selling...what... like diamond!?!?
Art of War dropped and I was both right and wrong. They didn't have the same chemistry. We didn't get to hear them harmonizing around a fire in a back alley like those Philly bumbs in Rocky 1 and Rocky 2 ("they're like the neighborhood jukebox"). Fun Fact: One of those street singers was actually Stallone's real life brother who had a hit song "You're Never Over".
So we didn't get the harmonizing and they'd lost their chemistry. There were rumors that they weren't even in the studio at the same time for a lot of the songs. It was more like your standard:
Rapper A 16 bars
chorus
Rapper B 16 bars
chorus
Rapper C 16 bars
chorus
Rapper D 16 bars
So in that sense we were right to assume that Art of War would be a big letdown. But, DJ U-Neek was still making bangers. "Thug Love" was a Monster joint and was recorded when they were still in their prime. "Handle the Vibe", "Look Into My Eyes", "Body Rott", Bizzy's "7 Sign", "Wasteland Warriors" were all certified bangers! Somehow the album still worked enough to not be a let down. Though it's not a classic like the Creepin on a Come Up EP and East 1999 which are flawless albums.
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I know.. I just had a feeling of dread that Art of War was gonna be some big letdown like Doggfather was for me. Remember in the 90's there used to be the concept of "selling out" that isn't such a big thing these days like it used to be. But if you watch the old footage of Bone, the chemistry they had and their relation to the streets of Cleveland was such a big part of their appeal, they were so humble and down to Earth. No way, they could keep that up after selling...what... like diamond!?!?
Art of War dropped and I was both right and wrong. They didn't have the same chemistry. We didn't get to hear them harmonizing around a fire in a back alley like those Philly bumbs in Rocky 1 and Rocky 2 ("their like the neighborhood jukebox"). Fun Fact: One of those street singers was actually Stallone's real life brother who had a hit song "You're Never Over".
So we didn't get the harmonizing and they'd lost their chemistry. There were rumors that they weren't even in the studio at the same time for a lot of the songs. It was more like your standard:
Rapper A 16 bars
chorus
Rapper B 16 bars
chorus
Rapper C 16 bars
chorus
Rapper D 16 bars
So in that sense we were right to assume that Art of War would be a big letdown. But, DJ U-Neek was still making bangers. "Thug Love" was a Monster joint and was recorded when they were still in their prime. "Handle the Vibe", "Look Into My Eyes", "Body Rott", Bizzy's "7 Sign" were all 3 certified bangers! Somehow the album still worked enough to not be a let down. Though it's not a classic like the Creepin on a Come Up EP and East 1999 which are flawless albums.
like most double albums, "All Eyez On Me" being an exception, it would have benefited from being a single disc
howver like you said enough bangers on it to keep me satisfied...my joint was "Wasteland Warriors" 8)
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Pac started a wave of double albums that very few could attain..."Art Of War" was probably the best of the other double albums that were released around that same era 97-98...the worst was probably "MP Da Last Don" another candidate for worst album title...the only difference being the album sucked as well ;D
I thought Da Last Don was alright for a title because of how large Master P was at the time at the height of his fame, and he did that lame marketing ploy where he said it was his last album so "Da Last Don" (dawn/sunset of his career).
Jay-Z actually did the same corny marketing ploy, but most people aren't old enough or don't have the brain cells left to remember but he tried to say his 98' album was going to be his last to get extra publicity.
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I thought Da Last Don was alright for a title because of how large Master P was at the time at the height of his fame, and he did that lame marketing ploy where he said it was his last album so "Da Last Don" (dawn/sunset of his career).
Jay-Z actually did the same corny marketing ploy, but most people aren't old enough or don't have the brain cells left to remember but he tried to say his 98' album was going to be his last to get extra publicity.
I might be biased because I was not a No Limit fan and I pretty much disliked all their music lol
I did like "It Ain't My Fault" though...I remember Kurupt did the Drunken Master Freestyle to that beat in '99
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I might be biased because I was not a No Limit fan and I pretty much disliked all their music lol
I did like "It Ain't My Fault" though...I remember Kurupt did the Drunken Master Freestyle to that beat in '99
I was a No Limit fan, but not a big one like most the ignorant midwestern rap music fans thought No Limit was the best thing to ever happen to rap. I was still loyal to all the Death Row family of artists, and resented the fact that No Limit had became the #1 label in rap and not Death Row, or Aftermath, or Antra (Kurupt's label, lol)
But still I was a fan... "Ain't My Fault" was a big hit for them, but I never liked that song. I'm surprised you picked that song out of all the material that came out of No Limit. There were a lot of better songs than "Ain't My Fault."
1. "Heaven 4 a Gangsta" this is the track that got me into No Limit, it was on the back of Daz "Nuthin But A Cavi" single, and first time I heard No Limit (Rhyme and Reason OST)
2. "If I Could Change" the first No Limit album I bought was the I'm Bout It Soundtrack and this was the lead single
3. "I'm Bout It" - that was the anthem (we thought it was a big deal P shouted out Kansas City on the track)
4. "How Ya Do Dat Dere" Young Bleed's banger feat. Master P, I think was already a hit in the South and P like just bought it from him and put himself on it and added it to many No Limit releases
5. Mystikal "Ain't No Limit"
6. "Feel My Pain" Fiend
^^^Tracks like this were pretty dope, much better than "Ain't My Fault"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd6HSlTSLFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=497XKEqCBfc&list=RD497XKEqCBfc&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlS5bxXWRw8&list=RDRlS5bxXWRw8&start_radio=1
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I was a No Limit fan, but not a big one like most the ignorant midwestern rap music fans thought No Limit was the best thing to ever happen to rap. I was still loyal to all the Death Row family of artists, and resented the fact that No Limit had became the #1 label in rap and not Death Row, or Aftermath, or Antra (Kurupt's label, lol)
But still I was a fan... "Ain't My Fault" was a big hit for them, but I never liked that song. I'm surprised you picked that song out of all the material that came out of No Limit. There were a lot of better songs that "Ain't My Fault."
1. "Heaven 4 a Gangsta" this is the track that got me into No Limit, it was on the back of Daz "Nuthin But A Cavi" single, and first time I heard No Limit
2. "If I Could Change" the first No Limit album I bought was the I'm Bout It Soundtrack and this was the lead single
3. "I'm Bout It" - that was the anthem
4. "How Ya Do Dat Dere" Young Bleed's banger feat. Master P, I think was already a hit in the South and P like just bought it from him and put himself on it and added it to many No Limit releases
5. Mystikal "Ain't No Limit"
6. "Feel My Pain" Fiend
^^^Tracks like this were pretty dope, much better than "Ain't My Fault"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd6HSlTSLFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=497XKEqCBfc&list=RD497XKEqCBfc&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlS5bxXWRw8&list=RDRlS5bxXWRw8&start_radio=1
yeah man I just could never get into the No Limit phase...same thing with Cash Money
now when I think about it most southern hip hop I didn't really feel...basically I'm a West first cat even though I am from the East...I do like East Coast rap like Nas,Wu etc...Buckshot was an MC that I dug as well...also Heltah Skeltah...Bone Thugs I was a huge fan of but I guess they're midwest or mideast even
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I thought nobody caught it cause nobody replied, I'm sure it will resurface in a more relevant topic
i saw it had likes from a couple people
thought it was the most interesting post in this topic
oh well
:ohwell:
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i saw it had likes from a couple people
thought it was the most interesting post in this topic
oh well
:ohwell:
thx homie, I actually forgot there is a "like" thing on here
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yeah man I just could never get into the No Limit phase...same thing with Cash Money
now when I think about it most southern hip hop I didn't really feel...basically I'm a West first cat even though I am from the East...I do like East Coast rap like Nas,Wu etc...Buckshot was an MC that I dug as well...also Heltah Skeltah...Bone Thugs I was a huge fan of but I guess they're midwest or mideast even
u didn't like outkast scarface or devin the dude?
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yeah man I just could never get into the No Limit phase...same thing with Cash Money
now when I think about it most southern hip hop I didn't really feel...basically I'm a West first cat even though I am from the East...I do like East Coast rap like Nas,Wu etc...Buckshot was an MC that I dug as well...also Heltah Skeltah...Bone Thugs I was a huge fan of but I guess they're midwest or mideast even
O.G.C. the Storm is my favorite sleeper under the radar East Coast album of all time. I thought that was the best thing ever to come out of the whole Duck Down/Boot Camp family. I also loved the banger, "How Many Emcee's"
Cash Money - I never listened to, liked, bought, played, one single song that they released in their entire existence.
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I know.. I just had a feeling of dread that Art of War was gonna be some big letdown like Doggfather was for me. Remember in the 90's there used to be the concept of "selling out" that isn't such a big thing these days like it used to be. But if you watch the old footage of Bone, the chemistry they had and their relation to the streets of Cleveland was such a big part of their appeal, they were so humble and down to Earth. No way, they could keep that up after selling...what... like diamond!?!?
Art of War dropped and I was both right and wrong. They didn't have the same chemistry. We didn't get to hear them harmonizing around a fire in a back alley like those Philly bumbs in Rocky 1 and Rocky 2 ("they're like the neighborhood jukebox"). Fun Fact: One of those street singers was actually Stallone's real life brother who had a hit song "You're Never Over".
So we didn't get the harmonizing and they'd lost their chemistry. There were rumors that they weren't even in the studio at the same time for a lot of the songs. It was more like your standard:
Rapper A 16 bars
chorus
Rapper B 16 bars
chorus
Rapper C 16 bars
chorus
Rapper D 16 bars
So in that sense we were right to assume that Art of War would be a big letdown. But, DJ U-Neek was still making bangers. "Thug Love" was a Monster joint and was recorded when they were still in their prime. "Handle the Vibe", "Look Into My Eyes", "Body Rott", Bizzy's "7 Sign", "Wasteland Warriors" were all certified bangers! Somehow the album still worked enough to not be a let down. Though it's not a classic like the Creepin on a Come Up EP and East 1999 which are flawless albums.
As much as Tha Crossroads helped Bone, I think it also hurt them to the extent that every subsequent album they were looking for another 'Crossroads' to blow them up again, and it never happened and their music suffered for it. "If I Could Teach the World", "Change The World", "Meet Me In The Sky", etc...kept continuing to chase that hit again instead of staying true to their trademark sound from Creepin and E1999, and Faces of Death.
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u didn't like outkast scarface or devin the dude?
I liked Organized Noize as a production team but I never got into Outkast heavy
Scarface is a legend, just forgot to mention him
Devin The Dude was cool also
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u didn't like outkast scarface or devin the dude?
Ugk?! 8ball mjg?! Geto boys?!
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I liked Organized Noize as a production team but I never got into Outkast heavy
Scarface is a legend, just forgot to mention him
Devin The Dude was cool also
First 4 Outkast album were all classic. How can you not like:
"Southernplayalisticadillacmusic"
"Ain't No Thang"
"Atliens"
"2 Dope Boyz"
"Elevators"
"Rosa Parks"
"Skew it on the Barb"
"Bombs Over Baghdad"
"Ms. Jackson"
^^that's the best music in rap history. Goodie Mob also had some classic songs as well. JD is a legend, I don't care what anyone says, Jermaine Dupri is great, people don't just like him because they pushed him into the pop category because he had so much success. But he not only produced but wrote for Kriss Kross, and Kriss Kross was a great group beyond just being kids, Young Rich and Dangerous was a great record they did after being kids and Jermaine did everything for that album. Da Brat was also dope when she first came out. 1492 was a near classic with solid contributions from Snoop and Warren G.
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O.G.C. the Storm is my favorite sleeper under the radar East Coast album of all time. I thought that was the best thing ever to come out of the whole Duck Down/Boot Camp family. I also loved the banger, "How Many Emcee's"
Cash Money - I never listened to, liked, bought, played, one single song that they released in their entire existence.
cash money > no limit
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First 4 Outkast album were all classic. How can you not like:
"Southernplayalisticadillacmusic"
"Ain't No Thang"
"Atliens"
"2 Dope Boyz"
"Elevators"
"Rosa Parks"
"Skew it on the Barb"
"Bombs Over Baghdad"
"Ms. Jackson"
^^that's the best music in rap history. Goodie Mob also had some classic songs as well. JD is a legend, I don't care what anyone says, Jermaine Dupri is great, people don't just like him because they pushed him into the pop category because he had so much success. But he not only produced but wrote for Kriss Kross, and Kriss Kross was a great group beyond just being kids, Young Rich and Dangerous was a great record they did after being kids and Jermaine did everything for that album. Da Brat was also dope when she first came out. 1492 was a near classic with solid contributions from Snoop and Warren G.
JD was to the south what Dre was to the west and Puffy was to the east..
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cash money > no limit
first HighEyeCue doesn't give props to Outkast and now you just said Cash Money > No Limit
You guys might have good taste in West Coast Hip-hop But you ya'll are in serious violation when it comes to the South!
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JD was to the south what Dre was to the west and Puffy was to the east..
Jd?! Sure?!
Not timbaland?!
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Jd?! Sure?!
Not timbaland?!
timbaland is a better producer than JD musically, but he wasn't the boss that dre or puffy were
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first HighEyeCue doesn't give props to Outkast and now you just said Cash Money > No Limit
You guys might have good taste in West Coast Hip-hop But you ya'll are in serious violation when it comes to the South!
u just said u never listened to cash money
u just goin based off nostalgia and personal bias
manny fresh is widely considered a far superior producer to anyone on no limit roster
and cash money had the slightly better emcees .. altho mystikal was dope AF and i did enjoy master P's shit when he was still a bay rapper
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u just goin based off nostalgia and personal bias
Every phuckin time.
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first HighEyeCue doesn't give props to Outkast and now you just said Cash Money > No Limit
You guys might have good taste in West Coast Hip-hop But you ya'll are in serious violation when it comes to the South!
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I just never felt them as rappers...now Organized Noise I really liked their production...they also were the 1st producers to work on Kurupts "Streetz" album although only 2 songs made it on
one guy I wont ever give props to is Jay-z...probably the most overrated MC maybe ever...to mention him in the same breath as Nas as a lyricist the way most of NYC did is a crime
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I just never felt them as rappers...now Organized Noise I really liked their production...they also were the 1st producers to work on Kurupts "Streetz" album although only 2 songs made it on
one guy I wont ever give props to is Jay-z...probably the most overrated MC maybe ever...to mention him in the same breath as Nas as a lyricist the way most of NYC did is a crime
now .. not feeling big boi or andre3k as emcees is a wild take to me lol
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one guy I wont ever give props to is Jay-z...probably the most overrated MC maybe ever...to mention him in the same breath as Nas as a lyricist the way most of NYC did is a crime
Salute 🫡 !! Yeah we agree on East and West and especially the 97-98 period between Death Row and the Resurgence
Yeah I’ve always been a Nas guy all the way up thru the Good Life album (never Jay-Z, fucc Jay-Z, most over-rated rapper in history)
But you’re sleeping on Andre 3,000 go back and listen to the 7 or so Outlast cuts I posted above
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Salute 🫡 !! Yeah we agree on East and West and especially the 97-98 period between Death Row and the Resurgence
Yeah I’ve always been a Nas guy all the way up thru the Good Life album (never Jay-Z, fucc Jay-Z, most over-rated rapper in history)
But you’re sleeping on Andre 3,000 go back and listen to the 7 or so Outlast cuts I posted above
now .. not feeling big boi or andre3k as emcees is a wild take to me lol
alright you guys have convinced me to listen to their discography again lol
I'll start this weekend with their 1st album
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alright you guys have convinced me to listen to their discography again lol
I'll start this weekend with their 1st album
"Southernplayalisticadillacmusic"
"Ain't No Thang"
"Atliens"
"2 Dope Boyz"
"Elevators"
"Rosa Parks"
"Skew it on the Barb"
"Bombs Over Baghdad"
"Ms. Jackson"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yPagRrAgIU&list=RD0yPagRrAgIU&start_radio=1
^^Obvious Banger, and then if you want one of their lesser known, rare gems, check this joint "Babylon"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAgqCl2HArY&list=PLC80P4gsPr-YAQus5lkh8d6-2MMhhdbMt&index=8
^^Yes, I posted them again, try these for sure. I've never heard anyone whether they are the most hardcore backpacker or my own brother who is the most casual of music fans say they didn't like these songs ^^
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OutKast first 3 or 4 albums are all top tier stuff. Classics on classics
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I won't go into too much detail but I've been working on the facts surrounding '2001' for a future video. Bottom line in Feb '99 Dr. Dre announced his new album which was 'Chronic 2000.' Unfortunately, as you guys know Suge dropped Suge Knight Represents: Chronic 2000 May 4th, 1999. This lead to a lawsuit by Dre in July '99 against his former labels Priority and Death Row Records. MTV News article dated 10.13.1999 which includes this excerpt "Since then, Dre changed the album's title to "Chronic 2001" and "Dr. Dre." The album will now be called "Dr. Dre 2001," according to a representative from Interscope Records, which distributes Dre's label, Aftermath Records." There are various promotional images on the net that show "Chronic 2001." They ultimately decided to drop the "Chronic" and of course it is called '2001.'
Public records shows Suge and team filed for trademarks on both “Chronic 2000” and “Chronic Two Thousand” - with all the fallout from Dre leaving Death Row Records it is my take that they went ahead and just used 2001 to move ahead and avoid any issue. This is from the Rolling Stone article - "The troubles started once Dre and Aftermath began putting together their album, Chronic 2001. “After their album had finished its chart run, Priority suddenly decides not to honor their end of the agreement, and threatened to sue us if we used the title,” King elaborates. “At first we just laughed, but it’s serious business. This album is coming out, and it will be called Chronic 2001. With this lawsuit, we’re just making sure that nothing impedes that process. If we have to, we’ll just seize all profits from their album.” “It’s too bad,” he concludes. “You’d think there would be some sort of honor between men, especially men that once worked together.”" --- when Priority says "we'll just seize all profits from their album" and this is your comeback album... they just took the threat and moved along as it was too big of a gamble ... I think it worked out because the album sold well, STILL DRE was fire and it is a classic!
What I hate most is the album cover itself. I get it is a chronic leaf, which tied into the Chronic... but I really hated that it was so basic. I have a pretty soldi collection of promotion materials, CD, cassette, vinyl, etc. I don't hate it but I hate the album cover more than the name lol.
What did you guys think of the 25th anniversary release? https://interscope.com/products/dr-dre-2001-25th-anniversary-edition-2lp?srsltid=AfmBOopJhC-p01VhsOEEAwGEvkdc0ed8u4W7VUY8hO18Nl2l0j_rZuel
BTW, Suge Knight spoke about the above topic on Collect Call in the past.
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What did you guys think of the 25th anniversary release? https://interscope.com/products/dr-dre-2001-25th-anniversary-edition-2lp?srsltid=AfmBOopJhC-p01VhsOEEAwGEvkdc0ed8u4W7VUY8hO18Nl2l0j_rZuel
Other than the color of the record and the cover, is there any difference from the OG release?