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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2025, 02:50:45 AM »
Can we discuss 2Pacalypse Now. Like someone higher up at Interscope most likely a white man in his 50's trying to market this debut album



added (yes the title sucks, and the album isn't that great either to tell the truth, Pac became dope when he started making gangsta rap/thug life shit)

...great Seinfeld meme as well, I was actually watching Seinfeld in the background (it's the only thing I watch on Netflix) as I caught the meme
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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2025, 02:53:59 AM »
damn infinite

why u delete that entire entry about your teaching prowess over in the arab gulf?

I thought nobody caught it cause nobody replied, I'm sure it will resurface in a more relevant topic
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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2025, 03:03:34 AM »
Right, once Bone had the Crossroads hit, they left all that occult type rap from E1999.  I think they were struggling to find things to rap about.  You can tell they lost Eazy's influence once he passed.  Eazy was into horror and all that crazy occult type stuff.  Made Bone unique.

I know.. I just had a feeling of dread that Art of War was gonna be some big letdown like Doggfather was for me.  Remember in the 90's there used to be the concept of "selling out" that isn't such a big thing these days like it used to be.  But if you watch the old footage of Bone, the chemistry they had and their relation to the streets of Cleveland was such a big part of their appeal, they were so humble and down to Earth.  No way, they could keep that up after selling...what... like diamond!?!?

Art of War dropped and I was both right and wrong.  They didn't have the same chemistry.  We didn't get to hear them harmonizing around a fire in a back alley like those Philly bumbs in Rocky 1 and Rocky 2 ("they're like the neighborhood jukebox").  Fun Fact:  One of those street singers was actually Stallone's real life brother who had a hit song "You're Never Over".

So we didn't get the harmonizing and they'd lost their chemistry.  There were rumors that they weren't even in the studio at the same time for a lot of the songs.  It was more like your standard:

Rapper A 16 bars
chorus
Rapper B 16 bars
chorus
Rapper C 16 bars
chorus
Rapper D 16 bars

So in that sense we were right to assume that Art of War would be a big letdown.  But, DJ U-Neek was still making bangers.  "Thug Love" was a Monster joint and was recorded when they were still in their prime.  "Handle the Vibe", "Look Into My Eyes", "Body Rott", Bizzy's "7 Sign", "Wasteland Warriors" were all certified bangers!  Somehow the album still worked enough to not be a let down.  Though it's not a classic like the Creepin on a Come Up EP and East 1999 which are flawless albums. 
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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2025, 03:20:59 AM »
I know.. I just had a feeling of dread that Art of War was gonna be some big letdown like Doggfather was for me.  Remember in the 90's there used to be the concept of "selling out" that isn't such a big thing these days like it used to be.  But if you watch the old footage of Bone, the chemistry they had and their relation to the streets of Cleveland was such a big part of their appeal, they were so humble and down to Earth.  No way, they could keep that up after selling...what... like diamond!?!?

Art of War dropped and I was both right and wrong.  They didn't have the same chemistry.  We didn't get to hear them harmonizing around a fire in a back alley like those Philly bumbs in Rocky 1 and Rocky 2 ("their like the neighborhood jukebox").  Fun Fact:  One of those street singers was actually Stallone's real life brother who had a hit song "You're Never Over".

So we didn't get the harmonizing and they'd lost their chemistry.  There were rumors that they weren't even in the studio at the same time for a lot of the songs.  It was more like your standard:

Rapper A 16 bars
chorus
Rapper B 16 bars
chorus
Rapper C 16 bars
chorus
Rapper D 16 bars

So in that sense we were right to assume that Art of War would be a big letdown.  But, DJ U-Neek was still making bangers.  "Thug Love" was a Monster joint and was recorded when they were still in their prime.  "Handle the Vibe", "Look Into My Eyes", "Body Rott", Bizzy's "7 Sign" were all 3 certified bangers!  Somehow the album still worked enough to not be a let down.  Though it's not a classic like the Creepin on a Come Up EP and East 1999 which are flawless albums.

like most double albums, "All Eyez On Me" being an exception, it would have benefited from being a single disc

howver like you said enough bangers on it to keep me satisfied...my joint was "Wasteland Warriors" 8)
 

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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2025, 03:31:37 AM »
Pac started a wave of double albums that very few could attain..."Art Of War" was probably the best of the other double albums that were released around that same era 97-98...the worst was probably "MP Da Last Don" another candidate for worst album title...the only difference being the album sucked as well ;D

I thought Da Last Don was alright for a title because of how large Master P was at the time at the height of his fame, and he did that lame marketing ploy where he said it was his last album so "Da Last Don" (dawn/sunset of his career).

Jay-Z actually did the same corny marketing ploy, but most people aren't old enough or don't have the brain cells left to remember but he tried to say his 98' album was going to be his last to get extra publicity. 
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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2025, 04:36:42 AM »
I thought Da Last Don was alright for a title because of how large Master P was at the time at the height of his fame, and he did that lame marketing ploy where he said it was his last album so "Da Last Don" (dawn/sunset of his career).

Jay-Z actually did the same corny marketing ploy, but most people aren't old enough or don't have the brain cells left to remember but he tried to say his 98' album was going to be his last to get extra publicity.

I might be biased because I was not a No Limit fan and I pretty much disliked all their music lol

I did like "It Ain't My Fault" though...I remember Kurupt did the Drunken Master Freestyle to that beat in '99
 

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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2025, 05:15:37 AM »
I might be biased because I was not a No Limit fan and I pretty much disliked all their music lol

I did like "It Ain't My Fault" though...I remember Kurupt did the Drunken Master Freestyle to that beat in '99

I was a No Limit fan, but not a big one like most the ignorant midwestern rap music fans thought No Limit was the best thing to ever happen to rap.  I was still loyal to all the Death Row family of artists, and resented the fact that No Limit had became the #1 label in rap and not Death Row, or Aftermath, or Antra (Kurupt's label, lol)

But still I was a fan...  "Ain't My Fault" was a big hit for them, but I never liked that song.  I'm surprised you picked that song out of all the material that came out of No Limit.  There were a lot of better songs than "Ain't My Fault."

1.  "Heaven 4 a Gangsta" this is the track that got me into No Limit, it was on the back of Daz "Nuthin But A Cavi" single, and first time I heard No Limit (Rhyme and Reason OST)
2.  "If I Could Change" the first No Limit album I bought was the I'm Bout It Soundtrack and this was the lead single
3.  "I'm Bout It" - that was the anthem (we thought it was a big deal P shouted out Kansas City on the track)
4.  "How Ya Do Dat Dere" Young Bleed's banger feat. Master P, I think was already a hit in the South and P like just bought it from him and put himself on it and added it to many No Limit releases
5.  Mystikal "Ain't No Limit"
6.  "Feel My Pain" Fiend

^^^Tracks like this were pretty dope, much better than "Ain't My Fault"





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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2025, 05:45:59 AM »
I was a No Limit fan, but not a big one like most the ignorant midwestern rap music fans thought No Limit was the best thing to ever happen to rap.  I was still loyal to all the Death Row family of artists, and resented the fact that No Limit had became the #1 label in rap and not Death Row, or Aftermath, or Antra (Kurupt's label, lol)

But still I was a fan...  "Ain't My Fault" was a big hit for them, but I never liked that song.  I'm surprised you picked that song out of all the material that came out of No Limit.  There were a lot of better songs that "Ain't My Fault."

1.  "Heaven 4 a Gangsta" this is the track that got me into No Limit, it was on the back of Daz "Nuthin But A Cavi" single, and first time I heard No Limit
2.  "If I Could Change" the first No Limit album I bought was the I'm Bout It Soundtrack and this was the lead single
3.  "I'm Bout It" - that was the anthem
4.  "How Ya Do Dat Dere" Young Bleed's banger feat. Master P, I think was already a hit in the South and P like just bought it from him and put himself on it and added it to many No Limit releases
5.  Mystikal "Ain't No Limit"
6.  "Feel My Pain" Fiend

^^^Tracks like this were pretty dope, much better than "Ain't My Fault"







yeah man I just could never get into the No Limit phase...same thing with Cash Money

now when I think about it most southern hip hop I didn't really feel...basically I'm a West first cat even though I am from the East...I do like East Coast rap like Nas,Wu etc...Buckshot was an MC that I dug as well...also Heltah Skeltah...Bone Thugs I was a huge fan of but I guess they're midwest or mideast even 



 

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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2025, 06:20:08 AM »
I thought nobody caught it cause nobody replied, I'm sure it will resurface in a more relevant topic


i saw it had likes from a couple people

thought it was the most interesting post in this topic

oh well

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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2025, 06:22:42 AM »

i saw it had likes from a couple people

thought it was the most interesting post in this topic

oh well

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thx homie, I actually forgot there is a "like" thing on here
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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2025, 06:24:18 AM »
yeah man I just could never get into the No Limit phase...same thing with Cash Money

now when I think about it most southern hip hop I didn't really feel...basically I'm a West first cat even though I am from the East...I do like East Coast rap like Nas,Wu etc...Buckshot was an MC that I dug as well...also Heltah Skeltah...Bone Thugs I was a huge fan of but I guess they're midwest or mideast even


u didn't like outkast scarface or devin the dude?

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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2025, 06:24:54 AM »
yeah man I just could never get into the No Limit phase...same thing with Cash Money

now when I think about it most southern hip hop I didn't really feel...basically I'm a West first cat even though I am from the East...I do like East Coast rap like Nas,Wu etc...Buckshot was an MC that I dug as well...also Heltah Skeltah...Bone Thugs I was a huge fan of but I guess they're midwest or mideast even

O.G.C. the Storm is my favorite sleeper under the radar East Coast album of all time.  I thought that was the best thing ever to come out of the whole Duck Down/Boot Camp family.  I also loved the banger, "How Many Emcee's"

Cash Money - I never listened to, liked, bought, played, one single song that they released in their entire existence. 
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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2025, 07:49:42 AM »
I know.. I just had a feeling of dread that Art of War was gonna be some big letdown like Doggfather was for me.  Remember in the 90's there used to be the concept of "selling out" that isn't such a big thing these days like it used to be.  But if you watch the old footage of Bone, the chemistry they had and their relation to the streets of Cleveland was such a big part of their appeal, they were so humble and down to Earth.  No way, they could keep that up after selling...what... like diamond!?!?

Art of War dropped and I was both right and wrong.  They didn't have the same chemistry.  We didn't get to hear them harmonizing around a fire in a back alley like those Philly bumbs in Rocky 1 and Rocky 2 ("they're like the neighborhood jukebox").  Fun Fact:  One of those street singers was actually Stallone's real life brother who had a hit song "You're Never Over".

So we didn't get the harmonizing and they'd lost their chemistry.  There were rumors that they weren't even in the studio at the same time for a lot of the songs.  It was more like your standard:

Rapper A 16 bars
chorus
Rapper B 16 bars
chorus
Rapper C 16 bars
chorus
Rapper D 16 bars

So in that sense we were right to assume that Art of War would be a big letdown.  But, DJ U-Neek was still making bangers.  "Thug Love" was a Monster joint and was recorded when they were still in their prime.  "Handle the Vibe", "Look Into My Eyes", "Body Rott", Bizzy's "7 Sign", "Wasteland Warriors" were all certified bangers!  Somehow the album still worked enough to not be a let down.  Though it's not a classic like the Creepin on a Come Up EP and East 1999 which are flawless albums.

As much as Tha Crossroads helped Bone, I think it also hurt them to the extent that every subsequent album they were looking for another 'Crossroads' to blow them up again, and it never happened and their music suffered for it.  "If I Could Teach the World", "Change The World", "Meet Me In The Sky", etc...kept continuing to chase that hit again instead of staying true to their trademark sound from Creepin and E1999, and Faces of Death. 
 

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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2025, 07:52:22 AM »

u didn't like outkast scarface or devin the dude?

I liked Organized Noize as a production team but I never got into Outkast heavy

Scarface is a legend, just forgot to mention him

Devin The Dude was cool also





 

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Re: What's the Worst Album Title to an Otherwise Dope Album
« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2025, 07:55:42 AM »

u didn't like outkast scarface or devin the dude?

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