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Title: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: Halu Sination on December 05, 2005, 05:05:39 PM
thought it was pretty tite. in the newest rolling stones, he lists his top 25 greatest rap albums ever, here is the side commentary for "straight outta compton"

"N.W.A is the most influential act of the last thirty years - bigger than Nirvana, Madonna, or the Sex Pistols. Nothing has been the same since they came. I remember I was in LA when I was a kid, and I brought 'Straight Outta Compton' back to New York. More people were coming over to my house to listen to N.W.A than were going across the street to the crack house. I had the real shit. It was kind of like the British Invasion for black people."

1. N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton
2. Snoop Dogg Dogg - Doggystyle
3. 2Pac - Rap Phenomenon II
4. Run-DMC - Raising Hell
5. Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II
6. LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out
7. EPMD - Unfinished Business
8. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
9. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
10. De La Soul - Buhloone Mindstate
11. The D.O.C. - No One Can Do It Better
12. Eric B. And Rakim - Follow The Leader
13. Genius/GZA - Liquid Swords
14. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
15. Geto Boys - The Resurrection
16. Wyclef Jean - The Carnival
17. Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
18. Scarface - Mr. Scarface Is Back
19. Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
20. Nas - Stillmatic
21. Outkast - Aquemini
22. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
23. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
24. DJ Quik - Way 2 Fonky
25. Dizzee Rascal - Boys In Da Corner

if anyone wants i can type up commentary for any of the other 25 wen i have time
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: The Predator on December 05, 2005, 05:11:25 PM
thought it was pretty tite. in the newest rolling stones, he lists his top 25 greatest rap albums ever, here is the side commentary for "straight outta compton"

"N.W.A is the most influential act of the last thirty years - bigger than Nirvana, Madonna, or the Sex Pistols. Nothing has been the same since they came. I remember I was in LA when I was a kid, and I brought 'Straight Outta Compton' back to New York. More people were coming over to my house to listen to N.W.A than were going across the street to the crack house. I had the real shit. It was kind of like the British Invasion for black people."

1. N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton
2. Snoop Dogg Dogg - Doggystyle
3. 2Pac - Rap Phenomenon II
4. Run-DMC - Raising Hell
5. Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II
6. LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out
7. EPMD - Unfinished Business
8. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
9. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
10. De La Soul - Buhloone Mindstate
11. The D.O.C. - No One Can Do It Better
12. Eric B. And Rakim - Follow The Leader
13. Genius/GZA - Liquid Swords
14. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
15. Geto Boys - The Resurrection
16. Wyclef Jean - The Carnival
17. Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
18. Scarface - Mr. Scarface Is Back
19. Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
20. Nas - Stillmatic
21. Outkast - Aquemini
22. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
23. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
24. DJ Quik - Way 2 Fonky
25. Dizzee Rascal - Boys In Da Corner

if anyone wants i can type up commentary for any of the other 25 wen i have time

Yew type it up homie. It's appreciated.

''More people were coming over to my house to listen to N.W.A than were going across the street to the crack house. I had the real shit''

haha classic Chris rock
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: We Fly High on December 05, 2005, 05:17:18 PM
yeah some of that list is coo, some of it is pretty iffy. hahah the rap phenomenon mixtape in the 25 best hip hop albums??
good to see he got quik up in there. he had to love the scoring on his own movie head of state hahah.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 05, 2005, 05:29:09 PM
I like his taste in music. He knows what's up.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: Eihtball on December 05, 2005, 05:29:18 PM
I'm a little confused about his choice of "Rap Phenomenon II" instead of Pac's other albums (I would've put "Me Against The World" on there), but otherwise, he's got good taste.  DJ Quik and Pharcyde are both on there...he's definitely a man of my own heart.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: Trauma-san on December 05, 2005, 05:34:18 PM
He might be right about them being the most influential of the past 30 years.  He said more so than Nirvana, I don't know about that but it could go one way or the other.  Most rap since NWA has the NWA stamp on it.  Even hiphop and things and r&b have the hardcore style NWA brought on it. 

Of course all modern rock is basically a ripoff of Nirvana... but modern hiphop is doing much better than modern rock. 
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: Lo Flya on December 05, 2005, 06:12:49 PM
Im glad he put D.O.C's album in his top 25. That album was tight
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: nibs on December 05, 2005, 08:48:04 PM
i will never understand why people continue to insist that "straight outta compton" is better than "efil4zaggin".

please people.  listen to them both right now.  come back in 3 hours, tell me which one sounds better.  who the hell would actually listen to "express yourself" if it was released tomorrow?  "straight outta compton" sounds dated.  efil4zaggin sounds good today.  efil4zaggin has more excellent songs.  a more consistent level of quality throughout. 
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on December 05, 2005, 08:50:30 PM
Chris seems to know good music.
But putting Stillmatic instead of Illmatic :-\
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: Tha Crip on December 05, 2005, 08:51:48 PM
niggaz4life was definately better then straight outta compton, just imagine if Cube was on it  :o
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: The Predator on December 05, 2005, 11:34:04 PM
Efil4Zaggin is one of the best albums ever. The whole shit was amazingly advanced even for today and the gangsta vibe played on a cinamatic level.

For people like Chris Rock, Straight outta compton was groundbreaking and changed a lot of shit and the impact was huge. He was bumping it like a lot of cats at THE TIME. Shit had never been seen or heard before.

Straight outta compton ,fuck the police ,gangsta gangsta, dope man..shit is classic.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: o g s u e s o n e on December 06, 2005, 03:23:22 AM
where is the chronic and 2001?
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: JMan on December 06, 2005, 07:06:32 AM
where is the chronic and 2001?

exactly what i picked up on.. do'ya think he just doesnt like dre? cos how can you have the top 25 rap albums and not list either "Chronic" or "2001"?
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: o g s u e s o n e on December 06, 2005, 07:30:31 AM
where is the chronic and 2001?

exactly what i picked up on.. do'ya think he just doesnt like dre? cos how can you have the top 25 rap albums and not list either "Chronic" or "2001"?

yea i mean he has doggystyle on #2 but the chronic is not even in his top 25. cant understand that.
dre is all over that album production wise, same wit straight outta compton. dont think he dislike dre.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: Mac 10 † on December 06, 2005, 07:42:50 AM
I'm a little confused about his choice of "Rap Phenomenon II" instead of Pac's other albums (I would've put "Me Against The World" on there), but otherwise, he's got good taste.  DJ Quik and Pharcyde are both on there...he's definitely a man of my own heart.

exactly what i thought when i saw that sitting pretty at #3  :o
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: Kaligula on December 06, 2005, 07:45:30 AM
i will never understand why people continue to insist that "straight outta compton" is better than "efil4zaggin".

please people.  listen to them both right now.  come back in 3 hours, tell me which one sounds better.  who the hell would actually listen to "express yourself" if it was released tomorrow?  "straight outta compton" sounds dated.  efil4zaggin sounds good today.  efil4zaggin has more excellent songs.  a more consistent level of quality throughout. 

The difference has to do in the influence the albums had on culture. Efil4zaggin IS technically a better album, but Straight Outta Compton is a classic because no had really done anything like it before. Efil4zaggin was building off of the template they had created from the first album.

And plus, let's not forget, it had Cube, lol.

The Chronic SHOULD be on this list, tho.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on December 06, 2005, 08:03:04 AM
nigga most mos def knows his shit
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: Eihtball on December 06, 2005, 09:50:54 AM
i will never understand why people continue to insist that "straight outta compton" is better than "efil4zaggin".

please people.  listen to them both right now.  come back in 3 hours, tell me which one sounds better.  who the hell would actually listen to "express yourself" if it was released tomorrow?  "straight outta compton" sounds dated.  efil4zaggin sounds good today.  efil4zaggin has more excellent songs.  a more consistent level of quality throughout. 

I think it's a matter of "you had to be there."  When "Straight Outta Compton" came out (I was about 12 then), it was like nothing I had ever heard before.  Yeah, the production was a bit raw, but that was part of the effect; it felt like what you were hearing really was coming from straight outta the dark Compton alleys, and it was more powerful that way.  "Niggaz4Life" was far better-produced (in fact, I dare say it's one of Dre's best production jobs ever), but lyrically, it brought none of the excitement.  Frankly, I think it proves why Ice Cube was the lyrical focus of the group all along - Eazy, Ren, and Dre were decent, but Cube brought all of the energy, all of the anger, all of the character to the group.

You know how I know "Straight Outta Compton" is a better album?  Because I can recite most of the songs (including the first three) off the top of my head - Cube's lyrics were THAT memorable.  I can't recite a single song from "Niggaz4Life", because none of them were all that memorable.  So try as I might, it's impossible for me not to think of "Straight Outta Compton" as a better album - I simply can't forget the effect it had on me listening to it for the first time.  An effect that "Niggaz4Life" never had.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: africas seed on December 06, 2005, 10:17:13 AM
yeah what stuck out to me was no dre album and stillmatic before illmatic, although i do think that stillmatic is a classic just like stillmatic.
Cube was the voice behind N.W.A.. the cat is a living liegend
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on December 06, 2005, 10:18:53 AM
Dizzee Rascal - Boys In Da Corner is a fucking dope cd
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on December 06, 2005, 10:24:46 AM
Dizzee Rascal - Boys In Da Corner is a fucking dope cd


true, shocked there is no dre but other than that impressed.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: cStyle on December 06, 2005, 10:37:09 AM
thought it was pretty tite. in the newest rolling stones, he lists his top 25 greatest rap albums ever, here is the side commentary for "straight outta compton"

"N.W.A is the most influential act of the last thirty years - bigger than Nirvana, Madonna, or the Sex Pistols. Nothing has been the same since they came. I remember I was in LA when I was a kid, and I brought 'Straight Outta Compton' back to New York. More people were coming over to my house to listen to N.W.A than were going across the street to the crack house. I had the real shit. It was kind of like the British Invasion for black people."

1. N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton
2. Snoop Dogg Dogg - Doggystyle
3. 2Pac - Rap Phenomenon II
4. Run-DMC - Raising Hell
5. Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II
6. LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out
7. EPMD - Unfinished Business
8. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
9. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
10. De La Soul - Buhloone Mindstate
11. The D.O.C. - No One Can Do It Better
12. Eric B. And Rakim - Follow The Leader
13. Genius/GZA - Liquid Swords
14. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
15. Geto Boys - The Resurrection
16. Wyclef Jean - The Carnival
17. Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
18. Scarface - Mr. Scarface Is Back
19. Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
20. Nas - Stillmatic
21. Outkast - Aquemini
22. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
23. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
24. DJ Quik - Way 2 Fonky
25. Dizzee Rascal - Boys In Da Corner

if anyone wants i can type up commentary for any of the other 25 wen i have time

i guess he never listened to Dres Chronic huh?!  ??? :D
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: OP on December 06, 2005, 10:41:08 AM
He's got the wrong Nas album on there.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: smp4life on December 06, 2005, 11:56:40 AM
elif4zaggin did have 2 songs featuring Eazy E singing. Those were horrid. However, I think it has more replay value than Straight Outta Compton.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: Twentytwofifty on December 06, 2005, 12:09:32 PM
Am I shocked that The Chronic is not on there?  Not really, when I see a 2Pac mixtape at number three and no mention of Illmatic or Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) I think it's safe to say he doesn't know what he's talking about.

This looks like a list of his 25 favourite CDs. 
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: Larrabee on December 06, 2005, 12:14:24 PM
I read this in the latest Rolling Stone. I agree with Knuckles, it just looks like a list of his favorites.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: rik on December 06, 2005, 12:34:31 PM
His top five are West Coast albums and he's from New York tight.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: Twentytwofifty on December 06, 2005, 12:52:21 PM
His top five are West Coast albums and he's from New York tight.

What part of the West Coast is Run-D.M.C. from?
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: rik on December 06, 2005, 01:03:09 PM
His top five are West Coast albums and he's from New York tight.

What part of the West Coast is Run-D.M.C. from?
oops didnt see that one. well his top 3 are.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: thatboi on December 06, 2005, 02:14:05 PM
It's up there but best IONO what to say bout that.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on December 06, 2005, 04:05:59 PM
What is on the 2Pac Rap Phenomon disc?  Anybody got a tracklist?
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 06, 2005, 07:12:57 PM
As far as peeps wondering why he excluded/included certain albums - there was something at the end of the article that lets you know that he came up with the list pretty quickly.  It ain't like he was losin sleep to come up with the list.  And i def give him props on his choices. 

Peep his movie CB4.  It's a hilarious parody of early 90's gangsta rap.  Funny as fuck and has cameos from Cube and Eazy. Classic 8)
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 06, 2005, 07:40:38 PM
elif4zaggin did have 2 songs featuring Eazy E singing. Those were horrid. However, I think it has more replay value than Straight Outta Compton.

Nah, I'd Rather Fuck You was sick.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: BizzyR.I.P. on December 06, 2005, 08:43:23 PM
elif4zaggin did have 2 songs featuring Eazy E singing. Those were horrid. However, I think it has more replay value than Straight Outta Compton.

Nah, I'd Rather Fuck You was sick.
Hell yeah, everyone bumps that shit where I live.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: nibs on December 06, 2005, 09:02:29 PM
Peep his movie CB4.  It's a hilarious parody of early 90's gangsta rap.  Funny as fuck and has cameos from Cube and Eazy. Classic 8)

i've that movie on dvd.  the soundtrack is pretty tight as well.  the cb4 songs on that soundtrack are hilarious, especially "sweat of my balls".  just hilarious.  ice t is also in there with a cameo.  plus charlie murphy as well.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: Eihtball on December 06, 2005, 09:32:35 PM
"Fear of a Black Hat" was much better and much funnier in comparison.  Not to mention it's far more daring and less politically correct compared to "CB4".  Especially the parts where the rap group N.W.H. tries to claim that all of their obviously racist and violent songs that talk about killing white folks are being misinterpreted.  "We anti-violent!  Anyone says different, I'll bust a cap in they ass!"

The soundtrack to that movie is also a lot better - unlike the "CB4" soundtrack, every song on it is a parody re-make of another rap song.  Like "Ice Froggy Frog" (Snoop's "What's My Name"), "Booty Juice" (C&C's "Everybody Dance Down"), "Guerillas In The Midst" (Lench Mob's "Guerillas In The Mist"), etc.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-
Post by: ruthless95rip on December 06, 2005, 09:47:01 PM
thats cool, thanks for postin it.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: smp4life on December 07, 2005, 08:06:10 AM
Fear of a Black Hat was dope. It's like the hip-hop Spinal Tap.
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: cStyle on December 07, 2005, 09:31:09 AM
As far as peeps wondering why he excluded/included certain albums - there was something at the end of the article that lets you know that he came up with the list pretty quickly.  It ain't like he was losin sleep to come up with the list.  And i def give him props on his choices. 

Peep his movie CB4.  It's a hilarious parody of early 90's gangsta rap.  Funny as fuck and has cameos from Cube and Eazy. Classic 8)

hahaha hells yeah..."straight outta locash, a crazy mofucka named gusto..."  ;D  8)
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: Okka on December 08, 2005, 05:04:36 AM
where is the chronic and 2001?
Title: Re: Chris Rock says N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton is the best rap album of all-time
Post by: coola on December 08, 2005, 07:54:24 AM
"Fear of a Black Hat" was much better and much funnier in comparison.  Not to mention it's far more daring and less politically correct compared to "CB4".  Especially the parts where the rap group N.W.H. tries to claim that all of their obviously racist and violent songs that talk about killing white folks are being misinterpreted.  "We anti-violent!  Anyone says different, I'll bust a cap in they ass!"

The soundtrack to that movie is also a lot better - unlike the "CB4" soundtrack, every song on it is a parody re-make of another rap song.  Like "Ice Froggy Frog" (Snoop's "What's My Name"), "Booty Juice" (C&C's "Everybody Dance Down"), "Guerillas In The Midst" (Lench Mob's "Guerillas In The Mist"), etc.

"N.W.H: fear of a black hat" is funny as fuck !!! top 10 funniest flicks ever...

man i want to download that shit and watch it now !