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Started by TraceOneInfinite - Last post by HighEyeCue
Penny never had that Jordan and Kobe level jumper.
He could shoot, dribble, drive, dunk on an almost Kobe and Jordan level. He actually was a better passer than Kobe and Jordan as a point guard that was nearly 6'9" is like Magic Johnson. But the one big thing that set Jordan and Kobe apart from everyone else was that they had that jumper they could pretty much go to and get a decent shot off on any and every possession. That Jordan jumper never gets talked about enough.
Other aspects like Jordan and Kobe being great finishers, you had guys like Scottie and Penny that were also great finishers—and even Ron Harper and Kukoc a really good finisher. That's another aspect that doesn't get talked about enough when people talk about those great Bulls teams was how they made it look so easy finishing around the basket—that if they gained the slightest advantage over the defense they cashed in nearly every time.
Kobe had the best range of all those shooters too...he not only was a successor to MJ but an improved version
he was a pass first guy bro
the year shaq left he was still healthy and averaged 20 ppg
his career high is 42 points
mj and kobe had entire months averaging that lol
only 42? damn
yeah I remember Mike averaged like 37 one year early on I think before Pippen was drafted...and Kobe had a similar year as well one season
Started by Storm - Last post by TraceOneInfinite
True true....not gonna lie, i was pretty disappointed when I saw Big Pimpin 2 was gonna be on the Dogg Pound album, and then it ended up just being Big Pimpin talking the whole time with no raps from Daz or Kurupt. Years later i discovered the clean version with different lyrics and I almost look at that as the proper sequel.
Dogg Pound and Death Row were on fire so I didn't need a "2" of anything because they were always hitting on new and fresh angles in the mid-90's.
It wasn't until Doggfather flopped that I started thinking in terms like, "man, why didn't they just do some shit like Doggystyle, why don't they do a part 2, why don't they do sequels?"—I think I would've been happier with the LBC Crew Haven't You Heard album than Doggfather. That would've been closer to my expectations.
Funny, that Snoop did come with a "Gin and Juice 2" on Da Game album—but of course that track was horrible, lol
lol.. kind of sounds dope now in 2025
Started by TraceOneInfinite - Last post by TraceOneInfinite
well shaq needed a kobe level co-star and while penny was great, he was no kobe
penny hardaway was pissed when shaq left for the paper
and a teenager outa philly would become the greatest laker
back to back to back yea there's a new goat in town
bill walton said throw it down big man throw it down
Penny never had that Jordan and Kobe level jumper.
He could shoot, dribble, drive, dunk on an almost Kobe and Jordan level. He actually was a better passer than Kobe and Jordan as a point guard that was nearly 6'9" is like Magic Johnson. But the one big thing that set Jordan and Kobe apart from everyone else was that they had that jumper they could pretty much go to and get a decent shot off on any and every possession. That Jordan jumper never gets talked about enough.
Other aspects like Jordan and Kobe being great finishers, you had guys like Scottie and Penny that were also great finishers—and even Ron Harper and Kukoc a really good finisher. That's another aspect that doesn't get talked about enough when people talk about those great Bulls teams was how they made it look so easy finishing around the basket—that if they gained the slightest advantage over the defense they cashed in nearly every time.
Started by Storm - Last post by Soopafly DPGC
^^this
Same exact sentiment for me (except I didn’t have “Loyal 2 the Game”)
It was one of those albums when you can remember where you were when you bought it and first heard it and it was only my 3rd time in my life going to the record store on my own to buy a cd 💿. I actually bought it at Walmart so I didn’t know I was a getting a clean version. So I also didn’t get “DPG 4 Life” but always loved the live version on the Show documentary.
“Big Pimpin” is the song that prepared me for Warren G’s album because I thought rap was supposed to be “hard” like what I’d heard on Doggystyle and the Chronic. So to hear Snoop and DPG come with a totally different style and take their foot off the gas with “Big Pimpin” for a laid back softer sound—and still just as dope as anything on Chronic or Doggystyle—that blew my mind! That was my favorite and most listened to song on the album.
The same can be said for “Regulators” it sounded different than Chronic and Doggystyle but I sort of took it like a Nate Dogg song sort of like “Ain’t No Fun” — just like “okay, yeah that’s what Nate Dogg does.” But it took a bit for my ears to catch up with the G Funk Era album because it wasn’t the same sound as the Chronic and Doggystyle. It was a grower. I didn’t like it at first, in fact I thought maybe it was some Concrete Roots type shit because I was scanning for the Death Row logo and couldn’t find it, lol
Finally the video for “This DJ” came out and I was like, “oh okay, I get it now”. This is next level!
True true....not gonna lie, i was pretty disappointed when I saw Big Pimpin 2 was gonna be on the Dogg Pound album, and then it ended up just being Big Pimpin talking the whole time with no raps from Daz or Kurupt. Years later i discovered the clean version with different lyrics and I almost look at that as the proper sequel.
Started by TraceOneInfinite - Last post by Sccit
for sure Kobe was MJ’s successor…but I think Pennys scoring would have increased without Shaq on the team…then again when he went to Phoenix it actually decreased if I remember correctly
he wasn’t a great defender though you’re right
he was a pass first guy bro
the year shaq left he was still healthy and averaged 20 ppg
his career high is 42 points
mj and kobe had entire months averaging that lol
Started by TraceOneInfinite - Last post by HighEyeCue
penny was never the scorer or defender mike was .. he was closer to a magic type than mike tbh
grant hill was a baller but simply not on that level
kobe was the only answer
for sure Kobe was MJ’s successor…but I think Pennys scoring would have increased without Shaq on the team…then again when he went to Phoenix it actually decreased if I remember correctly
he wasn’t a great defender though you’re right
Started by TraceOneInfinite - Last post by Sccit
injuries really robbed Penny of that chance to be that successor...by the time he joined the Knicks he was beyond washed
Grant Hill although a great player never had a chance to be like Mike
penny was never the scorer or defender mike was .. he was closer to a magic type than mike tbh
grant hill was a baller but simply not on that level
kobe was the only answer
Started by TraceOneInfinite - Last post by HighEyeCue
The Magic should’ve taken it at least once in those two years maybe twice—especially once they had Horace Grant in 95 NBA finals that starting 5 was the best in the league — Hardaway, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott, Horace, Shaq. You had Hardaway who could do it all and Scott to hit 3’s if they collapsed on Shaq and Horace to take pressure off Shaq in the post—knew what it took to win championships.
I always felt like destiny was in the Magic’s hand for those two years—they won the draft lottery two years in a row and got Shaq and then Anfernee Hardaway, and I thought Hardaway was the next Jordan (not Grant Hill, and eventually Kobe came and he manifested into the real Jordan successor).
I’ll never forget Nick Anderson missing 4 free throws in a row — it was a sweep after that
injuries really robbed Penny of that chance to be that successor...by the time he joined the Knicks he was beyond washed

Grant Hill although a great player never had a chance to be like Mike

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