Chargers release LT.

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can anybody name me somebody in the Hall of Fame in any sport where they retired after a season with Hall of Fame numbers?

Jim Brown.

alright, one.

arguably the greatest running back of all time; not the same for LT's case & out of the entire world of sports, we have one lol.

point is, everyone naturally has poor seasons as they get older; Shaq isn't a Hall of Famer?

even Babe Ruth had falling numbers the last two years of his career & he's the greatest of all time lol.

Off topic, but I don't think you can say Ruth is the GOAT since he played in an era when they only allowed whites to play.

it was a slight exaggeration; but he's one of the greatest; he pitched too, who else does that? lol

i don't even view it where it was "only whites allowed", but the game just wasn't as developed as it is today.

it's speculation, but i'd say he wouldn't have the same numbers if he played today.

there were guys who pitched back to back double headers; that's 18 innings.

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can anybody name me somebody in the Hall of Fame in any sport where they retired after a season with Hall of Fame numbers?

Jim Brown.

alright, one.

arguably the greatest running back of all time; not the same for LT's case & out of the entire world of sports, we have one lol.

point is, everyone naturally has poor seasons as they get older; Shaq isn't a Hall of Famer?

even Babe Ruth had falling numbers the last two years of his career & he's the greatest of all time lol.

Off topic, but I don't think you can say Ruth is the GOAT since he played in an era when they only allowed whites to play.

it was a slight exaggeration; but he's one of the greatest; he pitched too, who else does that? lol

i don't even view it where it was "only whites allowed", but the game just wasn't as developed as it is today.

it's speculation, but i'd say he wouldn't have the same numbers if he played today.

there were guys who pitched back to back double headers; that's 18 innings.

Yeah well a lot of that 2 games stuff died down in '26 and '27 and Ruth's numbers still stood strong. And even if it still went on, I'd rather have Clemens hot for 18 innings than Clemens for 7 of game one and then some goof for game 2.

And if it was so easy to hit dingers back in those days then why didn't more players have 40 HR seasons? Ruth did it almost every year in his prime. A few times less than 40 but a few more times over 50. If you look at the list of HR leaders in those days, one maybe two others hit more than 30 each year while the top 10 would finish off with 14 or 15 HRs. These days every one oin the top 10 gets 35 and up.

Are we to believe that Ruth was the lone good player in a league of bums who couldn't hit HRs off of guys that pitch 18 consecutive innings throwing 75 mph and having corked bats? It's ridiculous. Not only would Ruth would have hit just as many in today's game. You could argue he'd have hit more, because despite the great advances in pitching strategy that you say exist, more and more guys are knocking them way out of the park. The truth is, Ruth's day saw a handful of truly great HR seasons but only Ruth and a couple others could consistently hit a high number of HRs year in and year out, and none of the others were near Ruth's level, except maybe Gehrig, and Jimmie Foxx. In the NFL Wilson and Klein had spurts in their career that lead to a lot of HRs but they couldn't keep up long term.

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perhaps he was just hands down better than everybody else.

if the steroid allegations never came out; wouldn't we all look and say Barry Bonds' 73 was unreal & how come nobody else is hitting that many? you got 50's, even 60's, but 70?

& the fact Babe Ruth was the only one hitting homeruns shows how the game was undeveloped; we got leadoff men (Granderson, Damon, Sizemore) hitting 30 homeruns a year, when back then maybe one guy (only the 3 or 4 batter) on a team would hit 30 & that was a fantastic year; 30 today is a "solid" year.

you got kids hitting the gym, full time, at the age of 13; getting stronger & better.

kids who play 365 days a year & have hitting or pitching coaches they see once or twice a week.

players in the Majors who spend Novemeber through Febuary working out, getting better; opposed to getting a cashier job at a local grocery store.

& the point 360 raise; instead of just whites, you got a few blacks, majority of amazing Dominicans, etc., even Asain players.

for me, Baseball (or any sport) has become more of a lifestyle than just "recreation".

i'll give you that there are more "shitty" players; like worthless middle relivers eating up innings, but the sport as a whole is just on a complete different level.

not trying to take anything away from Babe, he was amazing & one of the GOATS, but i'm not convinced on the era of the game yet.

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perhaps he was just hands down better than everybody else.

if the steroid allegations never came out; wouldn't we all look and say Barry Bonds' 73 was unreal & how come nobody else is hitting that many? you got 50's, even 60's, but 70?

& the fact Babe Ruth was the only one hitting homeruns shows how the game was undeveloped; we got leadoff men (Granderson, Damon, Sizemore) hitting 30 homeruns a year, when back then maybe one guy (only the 3 or 4 batter) on a team would hit 30 & that was a fantastic year; 30 today is a "solid" year.

you got kids hitting the gym, full time, at the age of 13; getting stronger & better.

kids who play 365 days a year & have hitting or pitching coaches they see once or twice a week.

players in the Majors who spend Novemeber through Febuary working out, getting better; opposed to getting a cashier job at a local grocery store.

& the point 360 raise; instead of just whites, you got a few blacks, majority of amazing Dominicans, etc., even Asain players.

for me, Baseball (or any sport) has become more of a lifestyle than just "recreation".

i'll give you that there are more "shitty" players; like worthless middle relivers eating up innings, but the sport as a whole is just on a complete different level.

not trying to take anything away from Babe, he was amazing & one of the GOATS, but i'm not convinced on the era of the game yet.

You also have twice as many teams and 5 times as many major sports for young athletes to strive towards those sports instead of baseball.

I'll agree that if the sport was brought back down to 16 teams and the only major sport for yong teletes to make real livings in was baseball that it would have been incredibly more advanced now. My argument is that as it advanced it also became watered down, thus evening the playing field in the grand scheme of it.

I don't think Babe Ruth could have hit 700 HRs in 8400 ABs in today's league if all the aces on 16 teams were all shoved onto 8 teams, and all the big arm QBs were notorious curveballers. But in an era where the pool as been drained and less and less people are getting into baseball, no mater how much more the technology of it has advanced Babe Ruth was going to hit those bombers no matter what. That's what I believe. What you believe is up to you.

I don't get what you mean about Bonds and the roids. He was a great HR hitter his whole career. he only had one unreal year with the 73. He averaged 35 to 45 every other year in his prime years. He wasn't that far ahead of the pack. In fact he's only lead the league twice in HRs. Ruth lead the league 12 times in HRs. And the first year he lead the league he only played half a year as a batter, and that was his 5th season. So in his first 4 years he may have lead the league in each of them he played all year as a batter. And in his first three years as a full time batter he just about tripled the second place HR hitter each year. It's unreal how much better he was at hitting them deep than everyone else. No one has been that much better than the rest since Babe Ruth.

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damn thats crazy tho to see him cry like that.....but well does anyone think its over for him?

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damn thats crazy tho to see him cry like that.....but well does anyone think its over for him?

Yep.  LDT couldn't even run for 100yds against sorry teams with horrid run defenses last season.   

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perhaps he was just hands down better than everybody else.

if the steroid allegations never came out; wouldn't we all look and say Barry Bonds' 73 was unreal & how come nobody else is hitting that many? you got 50's, even 60's, but 70?

& the fact Babe Ruth was the only one hitting homeruns shows how the game was undeveloped; we got leadoff men (Granderson, Damon, Sizemore) hitting 30 homeruns a year, when back then maybe one guy (only the 3 or 4 batter) on a team would hit 30 & that was a fantastic year; 30 today is a "solid" year.

And remember, Babe Ruth got his numbers on hot dogs, very friendly women & beer

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

exactly....so given he played like that and went out like that, is how hof'e's play?
you think he should be in if he retired today?

damn thats crazy tho to see him cry like that.....but well does anyone think its over for him?

Yep.  LDT couldn't even run for 100yds against sorry teams with horrid run defenses last season.  

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exactly....so given he played like that and went out like that, is how hof'e's play?
you think he should be in if he retired today?

damn thats crazy tho to see him cry like that.....but well does anyone think its over for him?

Yep.  LDT couldn't even run for 100yds against sorry teams with horrid run defenses last season.  

I still think he's a HOF'er.  But he did himself in by not restructuing his contract though.  Its always great where 1 player can play his whole career with 1 team.