Music sucks... I can't stand it... there is nothing more personal than timeless music, the shit we dont get anymore...

I find myself less and less actually being excited about new shit... because it's all the same... I just can't stand it. Instead I find myself listening to what I got into.. classic cube, dre and snoop... I'm not tha type of person to get into all that underground ish, because most of it,  I just dont get into it ... gone are the days when THE GOOD MUSIC IS THE POPULAR MUSIC... now the POPULAR MUSIC SUCKS...every song is produced by the neptunes... I know I make these posts every now and then, but it just builds again... I turn on the radio I hear the same ol cliche shit... from  clubs, hoes, pimps, flossing, glossing, crome spinning, escalades, mink coats, gold faucets, weed.... I just can't relate to that shit, I like to hear an artist talk..... smart.... that's what the term is for... ART-ist ... now it's fART-ist... shit sucks... of course I support my favorites... snoop, dre, nate dizzle, warren geezy, ya know, tha west... but it's the poppy shit that gets to me...I guess rap is TOO BIG now... we've already heard everything... so people think there's only one way it's going... make shit about women clapping their asses, make it clap... clap clap clap... or hooking up with boy groups to make bumpy songs.... shit sucks... yes,  it's cool to add those songs, but come on...speak ur mind... every artist now no longer is in with their times... they floss and speak their life... unlike artists who live in the concrete and see life as what it is, life...I wanna see a big man make this change.... no one will forget Pac, because Pac was real, Pac was straight real... that's what people like... and there are just too many god damn people making songs about materialistic shit... I don't care if u want a womans body to be shaped like an hourglass... why? Think about it for a sec...it's stupid shit

-Bluey

i feel ya thats y im losing snoop and getting more into Bone Thugs and Mobb Deep.

Dr. Dre's last album was the last thing that excited me in hip hop.

Alotta people go underground, and I respect that, but it just ain't the same when nobody else is listening to it.  

exactly... I love talking about music and being like.....you heard that  new Snoop shit or that new dre shit or whatever... now , sure I can be like... yo u heard that new shit... and folks will be like... oh that shit is weak now... If i listen to underground shit, people will be like... "who?" ........ it's gotta be universal, I just wanna see the return Hip Hop, the way it started

-Big BpG

One more thing... music to me should represent it's current times... when we listen to that old west shit, we remember all that shit that went down in L.A..... the struggle these guys went through... now, since they're all rich and shit, they have no struggles...nothing... i guess it's a perfect world now... and there is nothing to be real artistic about

-Bluey

Underground just ain't the same, I think part of enjoying music, is it being a universal thing.  

you can listen to underground music.  Alotta people go underground, and I respect that, but it just ain't the same when nobody else is listening to it.  

im an underground head to the fullest...i love listening to new shit...most of the cats in the underground are makin some creative ass music with new styles and different content and shit...to me its most exciting than the new eminem cd which will consist of em talkin about how he hates his mom, his ex, he got picked on etc...its like u already know whats gonna come outta his mouth...plus i like to educate(like Big Bad Ass pointed out to me) peeps on music...not that im the most knowledgeable or anything...i just feel more well-rounded than most...id like to let a up n comer shine over an already overexposed commercial rapper cuz they need it more...they care more about the music...than the money...if u took snoops big budgets away...bet...his music would be alot better...cuz hed have to make the best with what hes got...

One more thing... music to me should represent it's current times... when we listen to that old west shit, we remember all that shit that went down in L.A..... the struggle these guys went through... now, since they're all rich and shit, they have no struggles...nothing... i guess it's a perfect world now... and there is nothing to be real artistic about

-Bluey

I woulda loved to hear Dre's bin ladin diss.  

the music industry is a business.  the primary goal of a business is to earn a profit.  If u make the most wonderful product in the world, and sell it at a very cheap price, but no one really wants to buy it, then it doesn't matter how wonderful the product is.  For example, in this day in age, say I produced the most amazing vcr ever with tons of options and features, and I made it with very low costs, so I could afford to sell it for really cheap.  I still would not be making much money and selling much because vcr's are out and dvd's are in.  Who the hell would buy a  vcr nowadays, when dvd is the much better way to go.  That is why westcoast artists don't hardly get any promotion, and companies like def jam seem like they r screwing over their artists, such as warren G.  The exec's of these labels know that the type of rap music the westcoast makes is not popular now, the consumers don't want to hear it.  So why should they spend hella money on promotion for these artists?  It is a bad business move to do this.  I explained this before in a death row thread on why I thought crooked I won't drop.  Then this moron named Ready wanted to know what money has to do with promotion.  It takes promotion to sell products, but if the consumer does not want the product then it doesn't matter how much promotion u have, u still ain't gonna sell it cause the consumer doesn't want it.  Suge Knight is a very smart business man.  He didn't become filthy rich by having his head up his ass and only using intimidation to sell records.  He knows what the hell is going on.  He knows that the consumers in the rap market don't want to hear the type of music crooked I does.  This type of thing happens to every genre of music, and just about every product.  Think about how many types of music have died.  Its cause the market changes.  Remember in video games how 2-D fighters used to be all the rage, and there was tons of them on the market.  How many do u see now a days?  Remember when first person shooters had great single player games.  Now more of the focus is on multiplayer, and some don't even have a single player mode.  Sorry folks, but the type of music that we all love is dead and gone, unless you go to the underground.  Who knows, 10 years or so down the line, there may be a comeback.  Shit, transformers made a comeback, and so did He Man.  I bet u in 3 years, the only new rap that I am going to listen to will be underground, and that goes for a lot of you guys too.  I really feel sorry for artists such as E-A-Ski.  He has label difficulties, can't get any promotion, etc. but he is a talented artist, and he wants to be popular and sell hella records.  The only way he can do that is if he makes music like Nelly.  It is sad but true.  Money makes the world go round folx, and if u don't believe that then u better pass me whatever your smokin.  The exec's of the major labels don't give a shit about the artists music, they just want to make money.  The proof is in the pudding.  I think it is a safe assumption that 99.9% of us can say that WC's, Quik's, Warren G, Shade Sheist, and Bad Azz's latest albums were easily 10x better than Ja Rule's latest album.  Yet Ja Rule himself sold probably 4x as much as all those artists latest album sales combined.  My only fear is that the artists that I really like take the sell out route, or the retirement route rather than the underground route.  And one last thing, the only way for the rap music that we all enjoy to make a comeback is by spreading the word and telling your friends about it and making conversation.  If they haven't heard about that hot underground artist, then show them some songs, don't just talk about the popular music.  I do this a lot whenever I talk with people about rap.  I always show them the slept on stuff, cause the popular artists already get enough exposure.  Other people do the same on this board and bring up the underground but it seems like most of wcc sleeps on it.  Rodzilla does a great job of promoting the underground and his folx and I give him much props for that.  So if u got the attitude that u don't want to listen to the underground cause u can't relate with anybody to talk about it, then yes good rap will not see any popularity.  How do u think popularity comes about?  Look at eminem, look how long it took him to get popular.  So I say this to u guys:  don't bitch about the problem if u ain't gonna try and help solve it.  I try and do my part, by bringing up topics on hot not very heard of acts, BUYING ALBUMS, hooking up peeps with the hot underground heaters to give them a sample, and checking out recommendations given by peeps on here.  (such as that mixtape that Rodzilla put up, and u can d/l for FREE, yet the thread has only 10 or  so replies, but a thread on who is the worst westcoast rapper gets like 30 or so replies)