THE REVENGE OF OLD SCHOOL!

[Quadruple OG]

i don't get this


(i'm not saying kurupt is) but if snoop betrayed pac becusae of that, then how is kurupt NOT a backstabber for workng with deathrow now all of the sudden


answer: neither, snoop never betrayed pac, he was cool with all party's....same with kurupt


don't say hypocritical things like that

I got the Snoop betrayed Pac in the interview hitemup.com conducted with Pac's bodyguard.  here's what he said:

HitEmUp.com ~ Q: How would you describe Tupac and Snoops relationship just before the Vegas incident?

Frank Alexander ~ A: Uh, it got shady. It had gotten shady. Pac was pissed at Snoop. Their friendship was falling apart. At a time they was at a bar, they had a show that went on NBC. Pac and Snoop was suppose to perform "2 of America's Most Wanted." And Snoop didn't show, to the rehearsal which meant he wasn't gonna show for the show that night and Pac was pissed. They lived across from each other on different wings in the Penthouse and I remember askin' my homeboys that was with Snoop, and was like, I guess I'll see you guys later at the rehearsal and my homeboy goes; "naw, I don't think Snoop's wants to go to the rehearsal." I was like; "what"? He was like; "naw, he ain't going". So I didn't say anything and we get to the rehearsal and Snoop never showed up. So huh, Ice-T, who visited with Tupac did a Karen Carpenter song. It was like a uh,

HitEmUp.com: You don't bring me flowers. Replies ~

Frank Alexander: Ya. Hey, did you see that show? Continues ~

HitEmUp.com: No, I didn't see it; naw. Replies ~

Frank Alexander: Oh, ok. I have it. Anyway, it was real cool and they did a skit .. to that song and uh, Pac, you know had to do a solo without Snoop in it and he was pissed about it. And they went to New York and did the MTV awards and they got into it there Tupac said Snoop was a coward and wouldn't stand up for the West Coast. Snoop didn't want to fuel the fire and didn't want to get into it, you know, with that whole West Coast, East Coast. You can't really blame Snoop for that but Pac didn't like the fact that they're on the same record label and Snoop wouldn't stand up and the relationship deteriorated real quick cause see, that's the way Tupac was; there was no middle area with him. If you weren't down with him, you were against him. If you weren't riding with him, you were colliding with him, and that was no joke.

[Don Jacob]

i love 2pac 2023840923409238402834098234 0832409283402380408 times more than snoop but i still don't see how soop betrayed pac....if anything snoop was more mature than pac here.

[Antonio]

Yeah yeah.. some quick replies.

First of all thanx for the replies, i appreciate em all.

About my very first reply, i dont know what u talking about.. German or Italian porn movies.. c'mon.. i meant that real men dont change their principles.. You can change as a man, but.. if you down to the game, your attitude and you passion will be the same from the first to the last day. If you rap to rep your hood and the problems of your life, you do it from first day to your last one. Like Pac. Like MC Ren. Like Eazy E. You dont rap only for the money, with no passion. Ok, Pac himself said "We dont rap. We rap to make money..." (in that infamous Death Row East interview some days before he died).. but dont cut just a quote without looking at the whole things. Rap was his life. He rapped 24/7 with all his passion. He dedicated his life to rap and movies. He didnt make films JUST to make money. But he did it with all his power and heart. He did everything with a passion. Even when he started to fuck with real G's.. he did it with all his heart and passion. And he died because of it. Look at rappers now. They all looks like Will Smith trying to make cameos all over great Denzel Washington's movies! I'm not hating on Dre & Snoop, but.. Training Day is a wonderful movie. Denzel is spectacular in this movie. Then you see Dre and Snoop. Hyronic. Again.. i'm not hating.. but.. one thing is ICE CUBE in Boyz N The Hood.. or Pac in Gridlock'd.. and another thing in Dre making movies. Or DMX if we wanna talk about rap in general. Have you seen Napoleon's and Kurupt's movie. DAMN! German and Italian porn movies looks classic compared to em. LOL!

About the rest of the post.. some of you aint getting what i mean.. I didnt write this post to diss nobody (Myrealname relax! I'm not dissing your girlfriend!)...... i just wrote it to talk about rap now. THEY ONLY FOR THE MONEY!

Damn look at Fabulous. First album and he's already riding in Lexus and Ferrari's.. Like Twinz said.. "2 HITS THEN YOU PASS IT ON". Cause nobody is real no more. They got a chance to make 10 dollars by releasing a DVD? They'll do it. They had a chance to make 2 dollars by making a 30 secs cameo in 4 movies? They'll do it. Snoop is buying/selling (man.. it doesnt care) a car of 80,000$? Yeah, and he's the same guy who repped his hood, poor guys, drug dealers, etc.. And who made tracks like "CRIP HOP", "GANG BANG FOR REAL", "BREAK A BITCH TILL I DIE" in his last (Eastsidaz) album?

That's what i'm talking about. It's not directed to Snoop or some1 in particular. It's just directed to commercial hip-hop. To rappers now. And rap now.

What is rap now? A video-clip with tons of gold and diamonds.. bitches.. and with a beat produced by Fred Wreck or Neptunes? Is that the rap now? Damn. I aint feeling it.

[Antonio]

i love 2pac 2023840923409238402834098234 0832409283402380408 times more than snoop but i still don't see how soop betrayed pac....if anything snoop was more mature than pac here.

He was both mature and coward.

Coward cause he was down with Pac against Bad Boy and against his enemies. He supported him to tha fullest. 2 OF AMERIKAZ MOST WANTED!! And then? Then he left Pac alone. Ok, he was mature cause he knew they were going too far, but.. it's both the things.

You mature if, when Pac says: "Hey Snoop, u down, right?".. you reply: "No Pac. I aint feeling you. These are the reasons..".

He just supported Pac in the first days but, when things went too far, he left him alone.

That's how i see it. But you right.. he was mature cause he's probably alive today thanx to that decision. But still.. he was been both the things to me.

Feel me?

[Don Jacob]

how was he a coward? most people were scared to stand up against Pac's beliefs and Snoop did...damn he didn't betray or pull anything cowardly he did the smart thing



and 2 of Amerikkkaz most wanted wasn't a track against  the eastcost it was a track rapping about their similar situations


snoop's murder trial and pac's rape conviction, and they felt they were 2 of Amerikas most wanted

[Antonio]

how was he a coward? most people were scared to stand up against Pac's beliefs and Snoop did...

Nah.. he didnt. That's the problem.

I think we all agree that he did the right thing, but.. like you can read by Mack11's post.. he didnt talked to Pac face to face saying "Fuck that! I'm cool with P.Daddy and BIG. If you got beef with em, dont holla at me". Naw.. he just left him alone after he started to diss em. He dissed NY rappers BEFORE Pac (NY, NY). He was down with Pac in his first interviews. He was on the stage with Pac when he was singing HIT EM UP. He was even joking on Bad Boy. He was with PAC when they made the 2 OF AMERIKAZ MOST WANTED video (dissing the hell outta Puffy & BIG), he was there in interviews with Pac dissing Bad Boy. He was with Suge dissing em...

He really had no reasons to diss Eazy E and Ruthless in The Chronic, but he did it because Dre, his homeboy, wanted to do it. Then Pac & Suge started to diss Bad Boy.. and he started it too. He dissed NY and then, 1 year later (no.. 6 months later) he started to think the opposite? He started to say: "i'm cool with everybody from LBC to NYC? From 2Pac to B.I.G.?". WTF?

I know it's a smart move, and that he's alive because of this move, but.. that's the meaning of my whole post: WHERE ARE THE REAL BELIEFS? THE PRINCIPLES? You say something then you eat your own words? Damn!

Maybe 2Pac was stupid cause he died, but.. he was real from day 1 to his last day.

And i know 2 OF AMERIKAZ MOST WANTED. Nobody said it's a diss song (even if they dissed Snoop & Puffy in the video)

[Antonio]

just a few quotes:

KOKANE at Ruthless: "I used to think you was a true 'til I remembered you was in the muthafuckin' Wreckin Crew and then I looked at an old album cover it was you chillin' lookin' gay as a muthafucka. I could have took it any kind of way
but see six months later you were NWA............. Now your throwin' up the Pound, but I'm throwin' up the black mafia. Can't stop us what you wanna do, bring it on Snoop and your whole fuckin'puppet pound crew" (Don't Bite the Phunk - Funk Upon A Rhyme)

KOKANE now: "I don't know if you've been told. But if you fuck with Dogghouse it's on" (Bones sountrack) repping Snoop & Dre for life.. He's pratically all over Snoop's tracks. Cant believe this shit.

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DRESTA on Ruthless: "Compton & Long Beach together? Nigga, never! Ever got along" (Compton & Watts - Real Brothas)

DRESTA on STRAIGHT OUTTA CALI intro: "I'm down with The Pound. Me & Snoop. Daz & Kurupt, etc.... The world most dangerous collaborations.. LBC C.. Long Beach.. California!!" (Intro - Str8 Outta Compton)

Plus u forgot about a track they made with this hook?

"Dat Nigga Daz (Killa)
Kurupt (Killa)
Dr Dre (Killa)
Mark ass niggas
Snoop Dogg (Killa)
Nate Dogg (Killa)
Tha Dogg Pound (Killa)
Fuck, fuck all y'all, niggas"

The track is called "DPG Killa", from Real Brothas.

Not to mentions other quotes from the same album.. like:
"Well put me back in so I can chill with Jayo Felony. Give me a cell with Snoop Doggy Dogg. So I can rub my dick between that bitch sugar walls"

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DR.DRE in THE CHRONIC: "Yeah, Eazy-E Eazy-E Eazy-E can eat a big fat dick" (we all know the track)

DR.DRE in his next album: "Fuck the beef nigga i miss you"

DR.DRE in HELLO: "God bless the memory of Eazy E" and shit like that...

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[Don Jacob]

lol whatever , i'm just gonna say this...your a snoop hater plain and simple  


my proof?

kurupt did the EXACT same shit....yet you sang his praise



nigga please, if it's one thing i hate...it's hypocracy

[Crenshaw_blvd]

lol whatever , i'm just gonna say this...your a snoop hater plain and simple  


my proof?

kurupt did the EXACT same shit....yet you sang his praise



nigga please, if it's one thing i hate...it's hypocracy

right!

[budsmokeronly]

Antonio I agree with you with a lot of stuff, but not all of it.
Man I miss the real days of the Deathrow/G-Funk Era.  From 92-96.  In my opinion that was the best era in music. I fuckin miss those days of classic gangsta rap.  That is when everyone one was together and stood up for each other and it was like they were family.  All those deathrow inmates plus a few others.  The reason why people such as Snoop and DPG, and maybe even Dr. Dre are so popular nowadays is because of the fans who have really been down with them since day one.  Doggystyle was a great album, in fact the best ever in my opinion.  Snoop sold millions of copies of it, and it was straight gangster.  I know I definately would not be as much of a Snoop fan now as I am if Snoop had not dropped Doggystyle.  And people nowadays talk like Snoop can't make an album like that.  Fuck that!  What he needs to do is hook up with Dre, Daz, and Warren for the beats and no one else.  His only guest appearances should be straight DPGC, and maybe one or two others from the westcoast.  Fuck all his other fuckin collabs and hook ups.  Kokane straight up ruins most Snoop songs in my opinion.  I really don't think he adds anything good to them.  Snoop hasn't worked with Daz in years on his albums, only has Dre give a few beats, Kurupt isn't seen much, and neither is Nate, or RBX, or Warren G.  I don't know about y'all but I would rather see one song of Snoop's produced by Dre G-Funk old school style with a guest appearance by DPG, then ten new snoop song with production from someone like swiss beats or timbaland and guest appearances of Ruff Ryders, Kokane, or Master P.  I could go on for days on this subject but I am sure most people don't want to read anymore.

[Antonio]

So.. if i got an opinion.. and if i dont diss nobody.. and i write it aint a diss to Snoop Dogg or all the others, but a critic.. i am an HATER?

Man.. u know the meaning of the word HATER? Damn! Do you really think i care so much about Snoop Dogg or other rappers to "hate" em? Man fuck that! I just wrote some things. Facts. Reasons why i aint feeling some rappers today.

And add Kurupt in the "big list". His last album in a pop album. But personally i think that if Kurupt is on Tha Row and Daz is on Bad Boy.. the problem is that nobody offered em a decent contract but Suge/Puffy. They gotta do what they gotta do...... to eat! (like Nate said). I aint hating on em like i aint hating on Snoop. They are just making money. Using rap/movies to make money. I said it's a shame. I said i aint feeling em NOW. I didnt write: "that bitch ass Doggy Dogg is just a fucking idiot he betta die of cancer!". That's hating on some1, without a reason. I'm happy that they all are making G's.. Happy cause, at the very end, they deserve some G's cause Suge didnt pay em like they deserved. But.. i dont think that this is the "right" way. Rap dies with this shit. Real rap.

Now call me a "hater" if u want.. but i aint hating.

Dont write those stupid phases like kids, please. Talk about the shit i'm writing. Add comments/reflections/critics..

[Antonio]

P.S.
Stop calling other guys "nigga". That's ignorant. Expecially cause i'm white and italian. And you are probably white. It's ignorant and..... oh.. your God Snoop Doggy Dogg aint using that word no more! So do like him. Use the word "man". Or "friend". Or "homie". Or whatever you want. At the very end even "Antonio" is ok to say! LOL!

Oh.. and since you are a mod.. if it really means something.. dont diss always guys over opinion.. and dont call em "nigga" or "hater" or whatever just cause they disagree with you. If the status of mod means something.. u gotta use it against guys who acts like you. You dont have to use it like you! U know what i mean? Peace.

[Crenshaw_blvd]

(antonio:your picture is the proof that u are only a snoop hater...why you're on his dick like that?U hate snoop?Ok... talk about other artists...snoop this,snoop that..bla bla bla)

Budsmokersonly* u said:"Snoop hasn't worked with Daz in years on his albums",u know the real reason???

"Kurupt isn't seen much, and neither is Nate, or RBX, or Warren G. "  Nate dogg appears on every snoop's album since doggystyle,in every projects(eastsidaz albums,doggys angels,
bones soundtrack...)

Dre still workin with snoop,but g funk isn't their style anymore,so...don't trip!
The past is the past....daz will be on snoop's new album,if u have patience.

[Crenshaw_blvd]

"Man.. u know the meaning of the word HATER? Damn! Do you really think i care so much about Snoop Dogg or other rappers to "hate" em? Man fuck that! I just wrote some things. Facts. Reasons why i aint feeling some rappers today."

I remember a topic:"Proof that snoop is a bitch" posted by antonio...u are not a hater?    
U are only able to diss snoop...bla bla bla

[Antonio]

What's wrong with my pic?  

You got the man you LOVE TO DEATH in your sig.. while i got 2 guys i dont like in my sig. I always change my pic. Last week i had Kurupt. Then Kurupt & Daz. Then Warren G. Then W.C. etc.. But i dont go out walkin on the streetz and hollaring "FUCK SNOOOOOOOOOP! HE'S A FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!".. or something like that. in no way.

And i didnt write FUCK SNOOP DOGGY DOGG BITCH ASS in this post yet. LOL!

When some1 writes something "against" your God and you dont know how to reply.. u just call him an "hater", while.. if he writes "SNOOP IS GOD" u became his best internet-friend. Like there's a team of "Snoop fans" vs "Snoop haters". Man this aint a joke like that!

BIGjakeDOGGYdogg... THAT'S HIPOCRACY!



Look.. in my very first post i named about 18 rappers. Talking about em. The first reply of Myrealname?


""Talking about guns and gangsta shit when Snoop is about to sell his car for 80,000$.."    What does it mean?
Snoop has bought that car!

"Snoop working with Kokane (who? the same who dissed the fuck outta him and DPG?) "
 
"Snoop working with P.Diddy (who? the same one he dissed with his "friend" Pac?) "
 
"Snoop Dogg on No Limit Records? (damn! i know he's out now, but.. DAMN!) "
 
ANTONIO:U ARE TOO MUCH ON SNOOP'S NUTS...get a life!"

All about Snoop. Ignoring all the things i wrote and all the other rappers. I dont think i need to add more.