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ok but there's a difference between most west coast rappers and most dirty south cats...dj quik actually rhymes and flows....while D4L and other south motherfuckers dont...so i dont agree with u on that one....
Quote from: Keep the G in the funk! on June 20, 2006, 09:17:12 PMok but there's a difference between most west coast rappers and most dirty south cats...dj quik actually rhymes and flows....while D4L and other south motherfuckers dont...so i dont agree with u on that one....D4L is just one really, REALLY bad example. But there are plenty of Southern cats who rhyme and flow.When it comes to depth, consciousness, etc., Quik is no better than the average Southern "crunk" rapper. His music is party music, not conscious or political or anything else. There's nothing wrong with that, but y'all act like these Southern cats who make the same kind of music are so wack when the reality is that they're no better or worse than Quik.
You wanna blame it on the Club? One song I'll bring up and your arguement is not void:Sugar Hill Gang - Rappers DelightYou wanna blame it on Money/Flossing on records? One song I'll bring up and your arguement is not void:Sugar Hill Gang - Rappers DelightThe first credited Rap track A CLUB TRACK and contained FLOSSY lyrics. You people here don't know what to blame it on, so you try to blame the Mainstream. Dudes have BEEN rockin' their chains and talking about it. It's just that NOW people have more money and EVERYONE has chains. People been making Club tracks, it's just that the Club is a place that makes or breaks you now, so more people make Club tracks. But, it's NOTHING new.
D4L is no different than your 69 Boyz, 95 South etc. They're not killing Hip Hop. HELL, they only had one big song. Ya'll are just going by what these East Coast Rappers (Who are upset that NY isn't on top) are saying. Sure, there's Southern Rappers who don't like them, but it's not a big deal to them. DFB... They're not that bad. They proved that they would make more than one hit.
LMAO @ Someone using DJ Quik as an example for rhyming. That's the problem with the West, they think because they like someone, that artist is the best thing since sliced bread. Quik wouldn't want it with Luda, T.I., Shawn Jay, Smoke, Lil Wayne, Bun B etc.
I can't remember who it was on here, but we had a debate on how "My Adidas" was no different than "Air Force Ones." But, since it's Run DMC they get a pass, yet Nelly gets on the blame. The reason I brought East Coast cats cuz dudes like Kay Slay and Ghostface have been dissing D4L and shit a lot lately. I don't think too many West Coast artists diss these dudes, as far as I seen. It's mainly the fans on these net boards.Word to Quik being no different than a lot of Southern Rappers. Look at some of his "bigger" tracks. Shit like "Tonite," "Down, Down, Down," "Do I Luv Her," "Pitch In On A Party," etc. are all up-tempo-club ready joints. Difference is, they like Quik and don't like a majority of Southern rappers.
Dudes are just too afraid to see "Club Shit" help the West come back (which is why people are hating on Hyphy).
Quote from: dloc187 on June 20, 2006, 07:58:05 PMWhat I believe is that artists today dont have anything new to bring to the table. Rappers are "formula" oriented. For example I hear artists promote their album they say "Its gonna have some club songs, some of that gangsta shit, some of that r&b shit, etc." New artists arent trying to outdo the past generation like the Ice Cubes, DOC's, Dre's, Snoop Dogg's, Nas, Rakim's, WuTang, Scarface, GangStarr, Eminem, you get the picture. All those artists plus others I cant think of at the moment brought something new to the rap game to keep it fresh. They all had their own style and everyhting. Now everybody has a white tee with a hat of every fucking ugly color with air forces or some shit yo get what Im saying? Everybody raps the same, sounds the same, dresses the same, and most of all they get in the rap game to make money, not great timeless music. I would like to know if you guys agree with me, even if you dont or have something bad to say just say it because I wanna know what everyone thinks about this!!I agree 100% bro, The music is lacking that element big-time right now..
What I believe is that artists today dont have anything new to bring to the table. Rappers are "formula" oriented. For example I hear artists promote their album they say "Its gonna have some club songs, some of that gangsta shit, some of that r&b shit, etc." New artists arent trying to outdo the past generation like the Ice Cubes, DOC's, Dre's, Snoop Dogg's, Nas, Rakim's, WuTang, Scarface, GangStarr, Eminem, you get the picture. All those artists plus others I cant think of at the moment brought something new to the rap game to keep it fresh. They all had their own style and everyhting. Now everybody has a white tee with a hat of every fucking ugly color with air forces or some shit yo get what Im saying? Everybody raps the same, sounds the same, dresses the same, and most of all they get in the rap game to make money, not great timeless music. I would like to know if you guys agree with me, even if you dont or have something bad to say just say it because I wanna know what everyone thinks about this!!
Quote from: SGV on June 21, 2006, 08:38:59 AMDudes are just too afraid to see "Club Shit" help the West come back (which is why people are hating on Hyphy).And that's what it comes down to with the West, always. You simply can't get away with changing styles in the West without getting hatedonfor it. L.A. niggas are the most closed-minded and conservative in all of hip-hop - they want the same shit over and over.You've only gotta look at how "Cali Iz Active" is being received on DubCC right now. Personally, I agree it's a shit album, but these cats all say shit like, "It should have had more tracks by Battlecat and Soopafly, more guest slots from DPG, etc" and "Diddy, Swizz Beatz, David Banner Paul Wall shouldn't be on it." Never mind that the BC and Soopafly tracks are as wack as David Banner's or Swizzy's, and that the few DPG guest appearances on hand aren't any better than Diddy's or Paul Wall's. So you see, the problem is just that they hate anything different on principle, regardless of whether it's good or bad music. And that's why they don't support different artists who just might be able to put the West back on top.