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The strategic plan is fatally flawed because the people in charge don't really understand what they're doing. They're applying blanket business principals that in their mind should equal success. But the thing that makes music universally appealling and transcendant of time / age / place is intangible. It can only be done by those that have the gift for it, not for who has the best marketing plan. And that's why the industry is by and large a joke and why it's failing. The wrong people are in positions of power.
Rap music has just gotten to immature. Label's continually tried to cater to a wider, dumber, and younger catergraphic and it worked short term.
i dunno about yall homies but the older im getting the less rap i listen.Im pretty much almost done with rap its just to much bs that goes on with it and alot these new artist seem to sound alike rapping about their baller/pimp/grillz/Bitches/Money/Mafia.....
Mainstream media and labels seem to be only interested in telling one side of the story.
Quote from: Efrain on March 05, 2007, 05:37:56 PMAnd LMAO at David banners "positive" records about "Cadillac's on 22's" ... these guys are so fucking clueless. You ever heard that song? Here are the lyrics:http://www.ohhla.com/anonymous/d_banner/miss/cadion22.ban.txt
And LMAO at David banners "positive" records about "Cadillac's on 22's" ... these guys are so fucking clueless.
Your 1st paragraph was completely unrelated to anything in my post. You must be lonely tonight and want some attention huh?
Quote from: QuietTruth on March 05, 2007, 12:48:53 PMQuote" ..the negativity is just over the top now."Is people startin' to get it?? Wowww.That is true. Hip-hop is definitely WAY more negative than it used to be. That's my biggest problem with it.10-15 years ago, it was pretty easy to dismiss rap critics like C. Delores Tucker as a bunch of stupid old folks who were just caught up in a generational gap...the old "parents just don't understand" adage. But nowadays, let's face it - a lot of the most vehement criticism of hip-hop is coming from hip-hop fans and even rappers themselves. Nas' "Hip-Hop Is Dead" is just the icing on the cake...it says a lot about a genre when its own fans and practioners are getting upset with it.Quote from: J$crILLa on March 05, 2007, 12:53:38 PMyeah its called "crunk" "bling bling" "iced out grills" "candy paint" BULLSHIT RADIO CLUB USIC!fuckin sucksAnother suburban dumbass trying to pretend he knows what's up. I haven't heard anyone say "bling bling" in a popular rap song in about 5 years now...have you? Some of the most popular rappers on the radio right now are the "trap stars" like T.I. and Young Jeezy who brag about how coke they push and how "gutta" they are...which is exactly the opposite of the blinged-out shit.Being "club" or "radio"-oriented isn't the problem. Some of the best hip-hop (and the first hip-hop) ever made was radio/club-oriented and even materialistic...are you gonna tell me Run-DMC was bullshit cause they made a song called "My Adidas"? The problem is how negative and repetitive hip-hop has become. There's no room to be creative and have fun anymore, and that IS a result of the white devils sitting on the top pulling the strings.
Quote" ..the negativity is just over the top now."Is people startin' to get it?? Wowww.
" ..the negativity is just over the top now."
yeah its called "crunk" "bling bling" "iced out grills" "candy paint" BULLSHIT RADIO CLUB USIC!fuckin sucks
There is another side to the problem as far as lack of creativity is concerned than just the white "devils" who push to release the negative style. Chuck D brought this up once a while back; in the old days young rappers coming up were listening to various styles of music. Be it funk, soul, rock, blues, or jazz, they used these styles from songs that they loved and incorperated it into their own music. These days most the young rappers and producers only really know hip hop and dismiss most everything else outside of a catchy bass line or piano melody they want to sample. They have no real appreciation for other styles and don't understand them enough to really learn from them. A lot of that has to do with the supression of the artist at the street level. In the ghetto it's not so acceptable to embrace poetry or literature unless it's ghetto or ghetto-relatable. A lot of times it's not the artist in some of these young guys coming out. It's the front. The same front they put on in the streets to appease the mainstream thug population. The same front that leads them to spend more time battle rapping with gun and thug imagery than rapping introspective emotional testimonials. If that were to ever leave the rap scene on the street level then you'd get rappers coming out that have the confidence to be artistic and the appreciation of all art to know how to make good art. Otherwise the white CEOs could leave it alone completely and you'd still have a lack of creativity, or at least not nearly as much creativity as possible.
and i cant believe you take this guerilla dude, aka whiteboy with selfcomplex, so seriously. do you really think it is white people who are messing up hiphop? do you really think that white people make rappers make their cd's as they are now? do you think they write their raps? lol @ you. white people are only in "higher" ranks in the record industry since rapping isnt an option for them. hiphop is becoming more and more an universal music style, with all cultures and races participating, which i can only encourage, since its a good thing against discrimination and so on.but back when the biggest labels were formed, did you see a eminem rap? a bubba sparxx? hell no, there was maybe 2 or 3 white people who were known in the mainstream. back then white people werent really accepted as rappers, since it was "black music". so as a white person interested in hiphop what would you do? not rap, but at least do something related to rap, so it leads to those functions they have now, as ceo's and managers.you cant blame a "race" for fucking up music, that shows how limited your brain is guerilla. you cant think outside the box, in this case the box is your racial thoughts, so you start babbling stuff without having anything to back it up. even IF a (white) ceo would say "you go make that sorta music on this album cause its popular right now and were gonna sell loads more with this, so you go make this". A rapper has 2 choices, either he's gonna make his own music no matter what hes been told (like immortal technique for example) or hes gonna follow the ceo (busta rhymes for example) and make money of it. see in the end its all about the money, always has been, always will be. but the point is that you have to find a balance between earning your loan and contribute to hiphop, since picking just one side isnt really gonna be positive for you.and the rapper who picks the ceo's choice is just as bad, since he does it for the money as well, so blaming ceo's is kinda lame too. no matter if theyre black, white, yellow, green or red. in the end the rapper makes his album so HE himself should be judged by it, if he only follows the ceo on what to do, then sorry but youre not a real man (let alone a rapper).so yeah. blaming "white people" for today's hiphop is kinda stupid, and doing that just makes you seem ignorant, but ill leave you with the thoughts that youre a "god" and im a "cracker", but i must point out 1 thing tho, a god doesnt discriminate, he takes very piece of mankind as his own son, which i dont see you doing, so im sure in your religion a god is not like this, i have been thought he is tho, so yeah....
i was talking to the "cracker-hater" guerilla, and yeah i agree, the money is killing it, but its kinda ironic, cuz without the money hiphop wouldnt be as big as it is nowadays....
What's funny is pretty much everyone they spoke with was in their 30s. They were into Hip Hop during some of its most violent and sexual times with acts like 2 Live Crew, Snoop, N.W.A., Too Short, Ice T, Geto Boys etc. This era had dances like the Tootsie Roll, The Train, Da Dip, all that shit. So why is it an issue now? Probably because these old bastards are no longer "hip" enough to relate to it. They're upset cuz their artists are no longer relevant in Hip Hop anymore. Shits tired already. Why not interview some 20 something fans of Hip Hop? LMAO@ Only interviewing cats who think as one sided as the reporter himself.