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People are still crying about this? He got the Nobel Prize. He didn't deserve. Everyone agrees. Get over it.
Quote from: Sikotic: 5 - Elior: 0 on October 16, 2009, 08:03:49 AMPeople are still crying about this? He got the Nobel Prize. He didn't deserve. Everyone agrees. Get over it.Maybe they're afraid he'll think if he can do nothing for a year and get a Nobel Prize out of it, he'll do nothing for a 4 years and get a new prize named after him for people that do nothing. Come to think of it, all the progress I've made in my 20s so far deserves at least 3 or 4 Obama Awards.RepublicansNeo-Conservatives are the ones that should be happy. Obama is being rewarded for continuing the policies of Bush. That should mean he'll keep continuing them.
With all the drama and shit we need to fix in this country people are worried about this bullshit. Ignant
Quote from: SPARETREALZZZZ on October 15, 2009, 01:28:03 PMWith all the drama and shit we need to fix in this country people are worried about this bullshit. IgnantThis is an important issue. Because when presidents take office the oath they give is to uphold the Constitution; yet over the last century Presidents care nothing for the constitution.The constitution limits the powers of the Federal government, the constitution states that "any powers not prescribed to the government herein; shall be delegated to the states". Which means the government was never given the power in the constitution to exact a War on Drugs, or the Patriot Act, or provide Health Care, Education, FCC, FDA, Welfare system, all the nonsense they do like threatening Major League Baseball if they don't strengthen their steroid policy, or even Michelle Obama establishing a task force on childhood obesity, and so much more.
Quote from: Infinite... Be and It Is on February 12, 2010, 10:09:46 PMQuote from: SPARETREALZZZZ on October 15, 2009, 01:28:03 PMWith all the drama and shit we need to fix in this country people are worried about this bullshit. Ignant or even Michelle Obama establishing a task force on childhood obesity, and so much more. Why complain about that? The private sector has tried to make money off of diets, healthy living, etc but it still has very little effect on the overall status of the people especially the children. Healthier kids will also mean healthier pockets. Plus there is a huge difference between policy and an award.
Quote from: SPARETREALZZZZ on October 15, 2009, 01:28:03 PMWith all the drama and shit we need to fix in this country people are worried about this bullshit. Ignant or even Michelle Obama establishing a task force on childhood obesity, and so much more.
Quote from: Javier on February 13, 2010, 02:40:55 AMQuote from: Infinite... Be and It Is on February 12, 2010, 10:09:46 PMQuote from: SPARETREALZZZZ on October 15, 2009, 01:28:03 PMWith all the drama and shit we need to fix in this country people are worried about this bullshit. Ignant or even Michelle Obama establishing a task force on childhood obesity, and so much more. Why complain about that? The private sector has tried to make money off of diets, healthy living, etc but it still has very little effect on the overall status of the people especially the children. Healthier kids will also mean healthier pockets. Plus there is a huge difference between policy and an award. Because, it's not the governments job to be deciding who's overweight and who isn't, and what kids should and shouldn't eat. This gay ass task force is going to sit around now and get paid by our tax dollars, to sit around and make research about what kids are eating and offer suggestions on how they can lose weight. Whatever happened to personal responsibility and personal choice? Isn't this supposed to be a free country where you are free to eat what you want and look how you want? Do we really need to pay (through taxes) the likes of McCain, Bush, Michelle Obama, (politicians) etc. to tell us what we should be eating and how much exercise we should do?
It is the government's job to protect the people.
It's gotten to the point that the corporation farmer that deals with meat can't be fucked with while the small farmer is completely fucked and doesn't exist anymore because it can't compete. Part of that protection is the lack of oversight and complete privatization of an industry.
It goes both ways my friend, people will be screwed if the government is too involved or not involved enough.
Personal responsibility? Damn news reporters/journalists can't even tell the entire story without being censored by their daddies. So how is information going to be spread? Word of mouth in this information age? Puhhhlease. Once word of mouth gets up there, it gets corrupted quick.
Don't be so quick to judge a parent that works 2 jobs, and can't cook for their kid every damn day. Real hard choice when you can't cook, a $1 hamburger or $1 for a few damn carrots. Even worse when there is a shit load of fast food places in the poorest areas.
The big problem with this idea is that of course, you can eat whatever the fuck you want...but the tax payer is the one that ends up paying when a 30 year old is in the ER because of a heart attack due to a weight issue.
Quote from: Javier on February 13, 2010, 03:00:32 AMIt is the government's job to protect the people. Have you ever read the constitution? The whole point of the constitution was to provide for an individual freedom to live one's life in a way that could not be threatened by the government nor the majority of society. It was never the governments job to protect the people except from a foreign invader, and a task force on health obviously doesn't qualify for that. What do you not understand about the constitution limiting the powers of government, and whatever was not directly mentioned in the Constitution was to be handled by the states!And if you need people like Bush, Cheney, Kerry, Obama, McCain to protect you by telling you how much you need to exercise and what to eat then your beyond help anyway.Quote from: Javier on February 13, 2010, 03:00:32 AMIt's gotten to the point that the corporation farmer that deals with meat can't be fucked with while the small farmer is completely fucked and doesn't exist anymore because it can't compete. Part of that protection is the lack of oversight and complete privatization of an industry. No, not quite. The problem in the farming industry is that the government subsidizes it, and therefore sets up an un-natural situation between the farmer and his customers. As long as people need food there is no reason the farmer would be out of a job.Quote from: Javier on February 13, 2010, 03:00:32 AMIt goes both ways my friend, people will be screwed if the government is too involved or not involved enough. Wrong again. If a corporation screws you then you can stop doing business with them, if the government screws you and you try to stop doing business with them they will haul your ass off to prison. The only people that got fucked by Enron were the people that did business with them; I didn't get fucked by Enron. But I do get fucked by the government everytime they take my money in taxes and if I didn't pay that money they'd throw my ass in prison for tax evasion.Quote from: Javier on February 13, 2010, 03:00:32 AMPersonal responsibility? Damn news reporters/journalists can't even tell the entire story without being censored by their daddies. So how is information going to be spread? Word of mouth in this information age? Puhhhlease. Once word of mouth gets up there, it gets corrupted quick. So your saying that people lack the proper information and therefore need the government to provide them with it? LMAO! Like when the government provided us with the vital information that Sadaam Hussien possessed nuclear weapons and was an imminent threat to our security? Or like how the goverrnment provides us with the vital information that marijauna is bad and evil but alcohol is okay? Quote from: Javier on February 13, 2010, 03:00:32 AMDon't be so quick to judge a parent that works 2 jobs, and can't cook for their kid every damn day. Real hard choice when you can't cook, a $1 hamburger or $1 for a few damn carrots. Even worse when there is a shit load of fast food places in the poorest areas.Maybe if the government didn't steal so much of our tax money or didn't regulate the shit out of small businesses people would have more money and wouldn't have to work 2 jobs. And McDonalds is not the problem, they offer salads and other healthy items on their menu but they have to sell what the people want. You can't be a business and not sell what your customers demand. Quote from: Javier on February 13, 2010, 03:00:32 AMThe big problem with this idea is that of course, you can eat whatever the fuck you want...but the tax payer is the one that ends up paying when a 30 year old is in the ER because of a heart attack due to a weight issue. Well that's only because such unconstitional government programs as Medicaire and Medicaid have allowed for the government to rear it's ugly head into the field of health care, thus making it expensive and inneficient. I don't believe the government/tax money should pay for anyone's health care. The health care industry should be given to the free market, and then we'd be able to stop paying tax money for all these "Don't smoke, don't do drugs" adds that are on TV and never work anyway.
Neocons are living in an existential hell with this black motherfucker running their precious white christian nation.