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LOL WE DONT BASE EURO RESUMES ON GOLD MEDALS HACK, THOSE ARE RESERVED FOR USA
Quote from: Sccit on June 23, 2015, 03:06:26 PMLOL WE DONT BASE EURO RESUMES ON GOLD MEDALS HACK, THOSE ARE RESERVED FOR USA But that exact philosophy is exactly why the ring argument is autistic as fuck lmfao.You say that because you know the USA has a superior team every four years. Yet, if Westbrook leaves Durant & Durant spends the rest of his career alone, running into your fantasy, stacked Laker squads or LeBron & Love or the Warriors, etc, you're going to knock him for never having the talent around him to compete with the "USA team in Olympic play".
You don't judge Pau for not winning a gold medal because the USA teams are always better than the Euro teams. He almost has no chance to win because his teammates in Spain aren't as good.But it's the same philosophy in the NBA. If Westbrook is all alone in OKC for 10 more years after Durant leaves & his career ends, how you going to judge him for 0 NBA Finals rings for being forced to play with Dion Waiters & Mitch McGary for 10 years? If Kobe never stomped his foot & whined to management to steal him Pau Gasol & didn't win you'd be on here crying he had no help.It's pretty simple as long as you're not fucking retarded.
I'm sorry dude, I know you spent a little typing that out...but I had to stop reading after "LeBron not having enough was media fabrication" lol. There's just no point if you're that out of line. That's absurd.Speaking of narratives, I get your whole "pretty much everyone who isn't a 'franchise player' would be 'awwwww man Draymond Green?!?'", but no lol, Mario Chalmers, Norris Cole, Shane Battier, Birdman, the list goes on of Miami Heat players who wouldn't have been shit for the last 4 years, turned into champions by LeBron. & those Miami players were better. Dellevedova will never start on an NBA team again unless all other options are on the DL, JR Smith sucks, James Jones can only shoot a three, Mike Miller today is too old, Thompson has zero offensive game, Mozgov is the only player worthy of a Finals roster & that's if he is the 4th or 5th option on the team. Iman can play defense, can't really do anything on offense unless he's created looks from pretty much being ignored. Kyrie & Love, like designed in the offensive scheme, yeah, they win. But like I said in another thread you...like usual...ignored because of how insane you'd have to be to argue it...no other team in NBA history could you have removed the 2nd & 3rd best players & that team would of still won the NBA Finals.If you honestly & truly believe if one week before the Finals the Warriors & Cavs broke all trading deadline rules & traded LeBron for Steph & you think the Cavs would of still won...actually if you think the Warriors WOULDN'T have swept Curry on the Cavs, you're so lost, it's inexplicable.
My dude, why aren't you saying that this team:FisherKobeArizaPowellBynumWould have beat the Celtics though?Instead, what you're doing is saying that these teams:AlstonLeeHedoLewisDwightandGibsonPavlovicLeBronGoodenBig ZAre equal to:CurryThompsonBarnes/IggyGreenBogutAnd that's just flat out not true. If you're going to make these comparison, make them right. LeBron played a top notch team, so make your comparisons with other top notch teams. If Dwight didn't defend on that Magic team, who would have? Who would have stepped up and bailed them out? Nobody. If LeBron didn't do damn near everything on that Cavs team, who would have stepped up and bailed them out? Again, nobody. These are not elite teams. Now, take that Warriors team. When Curry wasn't scoring, Thompson was. Iggy was. When the team needed stops, Green stepped up. Iggy stepped up. Livingston stepped up. That's what elite teams do. So you're comparing weak teams to better your agenda of Pro-Kobe, Anti-LeBron and are completely ignoring the fact that LeBron played against a stacked team with the MVP.Also, if PPG was the only factor in determining the greatest of a player, then AI should be considered one of the greatest ever. Bill Russell changed games with his defense. His defense was his offense. This dude out played Wilt Chamberlain regularly. Wilt was destroying teams (which of course, West needed his services to win that ring), but struggled to lead his team over Russell. Take Russell off that team and the Celtics are a footnote in history. They're probably the Knicks today. Take Sam Jones off the team, take Cousy off the team... maybe they lose a few Finals, but they still have plenty of hardware, thanks to Russell.I know you're rivaling Vanessa when it comes to Kobe Fandom and you hate LeBron and the Celtics, but damn man, at least try to be objective.
LAKESHOW MINUS PAU AND ODOM WOULDA STILL BEAT ORLANDO IN 2009 ON THE STRENGTH OF KOBE'S GREATNESS WITH:PG FISHERSG KOBESF ARIZAPF POWELLC BYNUMSPURS WOULDA STILL SWEPT LEBRON'S CAVS IN '07 WITH:PG BENO UDRIHSG BRUCE BOWENSF MICHAEL FINLEYPF ROBERT HORRYC TIM DUNCANWHEN UR 2ND AND 3RD BEST PLAYERS ARE FRANCHISE PLAYERS, THEN IT SEEMS A LIL LESS LIKELY...BUT HIS TEAM WAS STILL CAPABLE SON.
Quote from: Sccit on June 25, 2015, 06:09:42 PMLAKESHOW MINUS PAU AND ODOM WOULDA STILL BEAT ORLANDO IN 2009 ON THE STRENGTH OF KOBE'S GREATNESS WITH:PG FISHERSG KOBESF ARIZAPF POWELLC BYNUMSPURS WOULDA STILL SWEPT LEBRON'S CAVS IN '07 WITH:PG BENO UDRIHSG BRUCE BOWENSF MICHAEL FINLEYPF ROBERT HORRYC TIM DUNCANWHEN UR 2ND AND 3RD BEST PLAYERS ARE FRANCHISE PLAYERS, THEN IT SEEMS A LIL LESS LIKELY...BUT HIS TEAM WAS STILL CAPABLE SON.i don't know about the '07 Spurs but lmao @ the lakers getting to the finals without Gasol and crackhead Odom
I change my pick of dumbest statement.
u must be hella mad right now that your team aka lebron lost another finals (his 4th lost nba finals lmfao)..........that's 2/6 in the finals rofl..............and on ANOTHER sub-40% shooting night for your king.....................on SINGLE COVERAGE AHAHAHAHAHAHAHABTW elglin baylor won a ring in 72