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Of course there is an affiliation and connection. But there is no synonomous relation like that of the Prophet Muhamad and Islam or Christianity and  Christ.

Is a personal attack on Michael Eisner (which can be made, if u read about the guy) a personal condemnation of the Walt Disney company, Walt Disney himself, his vision and/or Mckey Mouse and Co?
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We never connected Christianity and conservativism. You have used Christian values in backing up some positions conservatives have, but the basic Christian beliefs and conservativism is not discuse. As for your mom, I'm sorry to hear. My moms was a drug addict, and all her money went to drugs. Due to these, I lived in poverity, I saw people literally shot their money in there arms. And I can honestly say, it is worth saving these people, there are sucessful programs to help these people, and each persons life is worth something. Jesus said himself, to turn away someone in need is like turning me away. So he'll come as someone needing help, and if you turn him away, then it's on your judgement day.
 

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I don't know much about Cheney, but in my opinion George Bush is a normal man like you and I, and I'm not going to hate him for doing what he thinks is right.  I think he's got a good heart and a good mind, and I believe he does his job to the best of his ability.  I can't ask for more than that in an elected official.  It amazes me that everyone sees him as a snake in the grass when it's clearly apparent to me that's he's honest to a fault, even to the point that it makes him look like a buffoon on television.  

I dont see how you can get to such a conclusion.. dude still denies that he fucked up concerning the WMD stuff..
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M Dogg I will answer your question for you. I am Catholic and conservative, and I embrace the conservative ideas like capitalism and free enterprise because I feel that those systems are inherently superior to socialism. The fact of the matter is under capitalism, more people will be better off and have higher standards of living. That is proven by the fact that poor people all over the world are trying to move into capitalist countries like the US and not communist countries like China, Cuba, North Korea etc.
 

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the problem is you (americans) only see one allternative to capitalism, which is communism. which due to the cold war you have been conditioned against.   neither system is perfect.

where is the 'left' in american politics? it doesnt even exist.. even the slightest hint at that and they get labelled as commies.

 

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the problem is you (americans) only see one allternative to capitalism, which is communism. which due to the cold war you have been conditioned against.   neither system is perfect.

where is the 'left' in american politics? it doesnt even exist.. even the slightest hint at that and they get labelled as commies.



damn straight. it's that shameful ride with us or collide with us attitude.

a government without ANY left part is not good. and why it's not good, we see very well in these times.
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Sorry to be so selfish and ignorant, I didn't know I was.  I thought I was just living life and trying to be a good guy. 
 

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the problem is you (americans) only see one allternative to capitalism, which is communism. which due to the cold war you have been conditioned against.   neither system is perfect.

where is the 'left' in american politics? it doesnt even exist.. even the slightest hint at that and they get labelled as commies.



The US has a left, that is what the Democrats are. Now if by left you mean socialists or communists, then no we don't, because the overwhelming majority of Americans hate socialism and communism. And our economy is better because of that.
 

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You just proved Seers point, c walker. Calling the Democrats leftist is a joke. Communism is the most EXTREME form of the left.
Your conditioned mentality is spewing all over this thread.
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the problem is you (americans) only see one allternative to capitalism, which is communism. which due to the cold war you have been conditioned against.   neither system is perfect.

where is the 'left' in american politics? it doesnt even exist.. even the slightest hint at that and they get labelled as commies.



The US has a left, that is what the Democrats are. Now if by left you mean socialists or communists, then no we don't, because the overwhelming majority of Americans hate socialism and communism. And our economy is better because of that.
America may not have much of a left but it doesn't seem to hurt us.  We are the strongest country in the world.
 

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America may not have much of a left but it doesn't seem to hurt us.  We are the strongest country in the world.

And we have the "right" to thank for that? LOL, you're an idiot. The U.S. being the "strongest" country in the world has nothing to do with it being to the "right" instead of to the "left".
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M dogg, You don't know shit. This is the Republican oath I have framed on my wall.

I am a republican because:

-I believe the strength of our nation lies with the individual and that each person's dignity, freedom, ability and responsibility must be honored.

-I believe in equal rights, equal justice and equal opportunity for all, regardless or race, creed, sex, age or disability.

-I believe free enterprise and encouraging individual initiative have brought this nation opportunity, economic growth and prosperity.

-I believe government must practice fiscal responsibility and allow individuals to keep more of the money they earn.

-I believe the proper role of government is to provide for the people only those critical functions that cannot be performed by individuals or private organizations and that the best government is that which governs least.

-I believe the most effective, responsible and responsive government is government closest to the people.

-I believe Americans must retain the principles that have made us strong while developing new and innovative ideas to meet the challenges of changing times.

-I believe Americans value and should preserve out national strength and pride while working to extend peace, freedom and human rights throughout the world.

Finally, I believe the Republican Party is the best vehicle for translating these ideas into positive and successful principles of government.
 

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I just have a few comments/questions in regards to these things mentioned:


I believe the strength of our nation lies with the individual and that each person's dignity, freedom, ability and responsibility must be honored.
So how do you feel about the Patriot Act, which in fact takes away some of our constitutional rights and freedoms?

I believe government must practice fiscal responsibility
How is the Bush administration doing on that one?

I believe Americans value and should preserve out national strength and pride while working to extend peace, freedom and human rights throughout the world.
At the moment, the opposite is happening (war, not peace; torture of prisoners, some not even being captured in battle, etc). What's your opinion on the torture of prisoners?










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I just have a few comments/questions in regards to these things mentioned:


I believe the strength of our nation lies with the individual and that each person's dignity, freedom, ability and responsibility must be honored.
So how do you feel about the Patriot Act, which in fact takes away some of our constitutional rights and freedoms?

I believe government must practice fiscal responsibility
How is the Bush administration doing on that one?

I believe Americans value and should preserve out national strength and pride while working to extend peace, freedom and human rights throughout the world.
At the moment, the opposite is happening (war, not peace; torture of prisoners, some not even being captured in battle, etc). What's your opinion on the torture of prisoners?




you forget, these are only for Americans.  ::)

Simply put, I wanted to know why most hardcore Christians, who get so worked up about prayers and schools, and pro-life, support the Republicans, as if that's all Christianity stood for. Why is the Republican party attractive to Christians, when as a Christian, I cannot see the connection between the two. All of the responds I've heard have nothing to do with religion and politics. So am I too believe that in fact the Republicans are not religious. Well hell, if that's the case, then fuck it, I feel completely happy voting Democrat now. I can sleep nicely at night knowing I voted for a the Democrats, and God wouldn't damn me. Honestly, thank you 'cause you guys all proved my point without me saying much at all.
 

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I am a republican because:

-I believe the strength of our nation lies with the individual and that each person's dignity, freedom, ability and responsibility must be honored.

-I believe in equal rights, equal justice and equal opportunity for all, regardless or race, creed, sex, age or disability.

-I believe free enterprise and encouraging individual initiative have brought this nation opportunity, economic growth and prosperity.

-I believe government must practice fiscal responsibility and allow individuals to keep more of the money they earn.

-I believe the proper role of government is to provide for the people only those critical functions that cannot be performed by individuals or private organizations and that the best government is that which governs least.

-I believe the most effective, responsible and responsive government is government closest to the people.

-I believe Americans must retain the principles that have made us strong while developing new and innovative ideas to meet the challenges of changing times.

-I believe Americans value and should preserve out national strength and pride while working to extend peace, freedom and human rights throughout the world.

Finally, I believe the Republican Party is the best vehicle for translating these ideas into positive and successful principles of government.


I was going to talk about each one of these... but nah... too easy.