(October 2008) | Interview By:
Little did we know what we were in store for on this sunny southern
California day in Orange county when we caught up with Ca$his for a quick
minute. While talking a little about his new album and upcoming tours,
Ca$his mentioned his man, Epademik, telling us about their song "Mr. Know It
All" which was just added to Shade 45 (Eminem's Sirius Satellite radio
With that being said, we dug a little deeper into the existence of this
crazy emcee named Epademik – because after all, if Ca$his co-signs for him,
then he's must be doing something right!
So we hit up Epademik and found
that the conviction he portrayed was raw emotion with a purpose – reminding
us of a time ten years back when a white emcee from Detroit took the world
by storm with his raw lyrical skill -- never biting his tongue on any topic.
Could Epademik be the next one to
carry that torch? You decide for yourself. Epademik gave Dubcnn the
exclusive to his first single "Aired Out" - Download it below. You also
should check out his hilarious Dubcnn Shoutout -- it's unlike any other
As ever, you can read this exclusive interview below and we urge you to leave
feedback on our forums or email them to
Interview was done in October 2008
Epademik Gave Dubcnn.com A Shoutout! Check That
The Epademik Interview
By Jonathan Hay
- Aired Out
Dubcnn: You have a song that you recorded with Ca$his that was just added to
Eminem’s Sirius Satelite Radio station - Shade 45… Tell us more about that
song – and how that happened.
Ohhh yeah Mr. Know It All! The way that song unfolded was Arkane hit me up
and said that Ca$his & I need to do a collab. I was with it of course.
Originally Ca$his was gonna just toss me a verse that was laying around
until I hit him with the song idea of Mr. Know It All, then he said that we
have to link up and knock the song out in true emcee fashion! Big ups to my
good friend Arkane for pushing the issue to get the collabo done and for
looking out for me on all aspects! So I called Serf Show and told him about
how Ca$his and I were gonna do a track together and I needed a track worthy
to be beasted on! No kidding, I had three tracks to choose from that night.
Serf is an incredible producer. Ca$his and I linked up the next day and we
knocked it out, then I had my friend Joe Arnold (Project 1) come to the
studio and lay the hook down. The whole song came together so fast like it
was meant to be! The crazy part about Mr. Know It All being played on
Shade45 is that I didn’t even know about it. Last Thursday night I attended
an open mic event in Santa Ana and my homies Xstreem and El the Self came up
to me asking me about what plug do I have with Shade45? I was like “What the
hell are you guys talking about?” At that time, they told me that they’ve
been hearing Mr. Know It All on Shade45. Shout out to all the Shadyville
DJ’s & Bogish Boy Dj’s!! Who would’ve thought! That’s dope.
Dubcnn: How did you even meet Ca$his…
Here’s a funny story for you, the first time I met Ca$his, I was at a studio
and when I walked into the control room Ca$his was in the booth and he
looked through glass, smiled all big, and came running out with his hands
up. Arkane and Rikanatti were like “what the hell” and when Ca$his came in
to the control room he looked at me puzzled and said “Oh man you tripped me
out, I thought you was Em!” (laughing) I had no choice but to reply with
“Well, you know all us ‘white rappers’ look the same.” The comparisons, the
damn comparisons. (laughing) Just the other day I was on the phone with
Ca$his and in he middle of the conversation he stopped and said, “Yo G
you’re really trippin me out right now cause the way you say certain things
reminds me of Em.” Ohhh gawwd… AHHHHH enough with the comparisons! At least
he didn’t say I reminded him of Vanilla Ice or Snow…INFORRRMER! *laughing*
Dubcnn: Have you heard any rumors about Eminem’s new album?
Yeah I’ve heard it’s gonna be ridiculous. I hear that Slim Shady is back
with a vengeance. Hip-hop really needs a verbal cleansing right now. Who
better than Eminem to tackle that task at this time?
Dubcnn: Ca$his is currently shopping your project to Shady Records
Actually it is on its way to Eminem courtesy of Ca$his as we speak. It’s a
good feeling when an artist who is signed with a quality label like Shady is
endorsing what I’m doing. He’s really helping to put me in opportunities to
further my career to the next level. I mean think about that for a second… I
am one person away from one of the biggest hip-hop artists of all time.
That’s crazy, right? You’d be amazed at how many people give Ca$his music to
pass on to Shady Records. So for him to take the time to actually ask me for
my press kit and send it is a real good look.
Dubcnn: If you sign with Shady Records, what would be the first
thing you do…
I think I would have to spend any advancement money on tattoos, guns &
jewelry! Isn’t that what all the new rappers do (laughing). On some real
shit, I would continue with my grind in making music & rocking shows. I
would definitely have to take a trip to Detroit and New York to meet
everybody and get to work on a larger scale. Sleep is for when you’re dead!
I would want to start marketing my name on a bigger scale. Visibility is
Dubcnn: When you went to Interscope to drop off the Ca$his album,
what was that experience like…
Yeah, I went up to Interscope with Cashis and Rikanatti to drop off his
album to his A&R Manny Smith. First, let me start by saying the drive up
there was a mind altering event as always with Ca$his. My car had quite the
aroma for a few days (laughing). When we got to Interscope we were suppose
to hang out and meet some new people there, but it turned out that Jimmy
Iovine called a mandatory meeting and was doing what bosses do when things
aren’t going good… cutting off the fat! So that kinda sucked but at least I
was able to meet Ca$his’ A&R and hand him my press kit and talk for a quick
minute. It’s been great to see and hear all the great responses from
everybody who has seen my press kit. They all say that they’ve never seen
anything like it! I always laugh when I go to these labels head offices
cause there’s always somebody sitting in the lobby all wide eyed at anybody
walking through with hopes of seeing some famous artists.
Dubcnn: When you said Jimmy Iovine called a mandatory meeting and
cut off the fat… what does exactly mean?
The word of that day was “YOU’RE FIRED!” Turns out people were making bad
business decisions I guess. Better them than me… (laughing)... man that’s
fucked up huh? I’m such an asshole.
Dubcnn: Has your music been shopped anywhere else?
My press kit has been submitted to Universal, Atlantic, Interscope, Geffen,
Aftermath, Def Jam NY & Def Jam South, Bad Boy, Epitaph an it’s on its way
to J Records & Epic.
Consistency is the key to success. The way my press kit got to Geffen is
kind of cool. My good friend Serf Show (producer) passed it on to his
manager (Chris Streets) and he was so impressed with the press kit and the
music, that he personally handed it to his friends at Geffen. It’s amazing
how many follow up calls my team has made and continues to make. Out of
sight - out of mind, so I make sure I’m constantly in their view. I’m doing
fine because I have a great day job and my own business, so I’m not a
starving artist. So it’s not like I’m desperate for the first thing that
comes my way.
Dubcnn: You mentioned Rikanatti a minute ago– have you worked with
I have a track that is produced by Rikanatti and Arkane on my latest project
Backpack Hustle. Rikanatti has some beaters for me. Trust me, it’s gonna be
real super duper and official! As soon as I get them done I will definitely
let Dubcnn know.
Dubcnn: What about C Major – you got anything with him?
Nothing yet, but I’m positive we will work on something soon. I’ve been
around C Major a handful of times in the studio, cool ass dude. He really
knows his stuff in the studio, especially when he’s breaking microphones
there *laughing*. Plus he has some real dope beaters.
Dubcnn: What other artists have you worked with…
As far as real major artist, I have not worked with too many. I feel like
upcoming artists shouldn’t have to rely on some other signed artists name to
get recognition. If you’re dope, then they’ll eventually come to you. I
truly believe that real recognizes real. Besides some of the rates these
major artist try to hit you with is dumb dumb. There are some established
artists that I think are quality emcees that I would collaborate with if the
opportunity presented itself.
Dubcnn: I hate to get going back to Ca$his, but since you are on the
inside – do you have any information on when his album will be released…
That is confidential information sir & if I told you then I’d have to kill
you... with a dull spoon *laughing*.
Dubcnn: Ca$his – what do you think of Epademik?
Ca$his: 'Ep is prolly the coolest dude in the 949. He doesn’t try and fake
it, he rep south county hard.. And really expresses what it's like in a way
I haven't heard anyone else do before. Plus he do some of the illest
graphics... And he got an insane grind to make it....
Dubcnn: Yo EP - Tell us about your graphics…
Oh, yes my business. Union Sign Co. I have an extensive background in
graphic design and also sign making. What’s really cool about it is it has
allowed me to create my own album artwork, posters, flyers, stickers and
banners for my music career. Talk about saving a ton of money on promotional
stuff and it also allows other artists out here to see how they too can
improve their visual game at shows. I’ve always felt that to become a
reputable artist you have to have everything already dialed in, especially
your promotional stuff and it has to be comparable to what the major players
in the game are doing. I learned a while ago that do as much yourself that
you can, because if you don’t you’re pocketbook will get drained super fast!
So any artwork you see on the MySpace page, cd artwork… that’s me! This has
allowed me the opportunity to create artwork for other artists and DJ’s such
as Dj Arkane (Shadyville/Bogish Boy), Dj Jemani (WOLVES Ent.) Krumbsnatcha ,
Ca$his, Supreme Line & Brix to name a handful.
Dubcnn: Besides graphics, you also do studio engineering – so
basically, you are like a walking multi-media company *laughs*?
That would be a great commercial! Ep’s one stop hip hop shop! I spit rhymes,
I design and deliver it all on time! I am extremely proficient on Pro Tools,
which has enabled me to record all my own material at my own studio. You can
ask Dj Arkane, Ca$his and Supreme Line and they will vouch for me on that.
I’m really excited right now at this point of my life with everyone that I
have been meeting and networking with. After all these years of blood, sweat
and tears it’s finally starting to pay off.
Dubcnn: So you have many irons in the fire, so to speak…
Hell yeah! If you’re not keeping busy and progressing then that means you
staying stagnant and getting passed up! Hip-hop is within me, it’s not some
costume that you just put on and take off when you like. It’s a culture! I
think that’s where a lot of artists get it twisted. I feel that if I’m not
doing multiple things, then I’m not doing my part in every aspect of my
music career. Gotta keep it movin!
Dubcnn: With the hip-hop game being so competitive – and beefs
always arising… have you had any problems thus far with emcees?
No beefs as of right now. I’m too focused on my career to deal with any sort
of beef. Don’t get me mistaken, If a beef arises then I will BEAST on
whoever it may be. I’m a hip-hop head, an emcee and I take my penmanship &
freestyles extremely serious. I started out freeing and battling so it’s
like second nature to jump right back into it if needed.
Dubcnn: What projects are you working on right now?
My most recent project is an original mixed album titled Backpack Hustle.
It’s mixed by the almighty Dj Arkane of course. Check it out on my
MySpace page . I’m halfway through my next project called
Addicted to the Grind. If I’m not recording, or writing everyday I feel like
something isn’t right. I love music, it’s a part of my life and it’s that
outlet I need to vent any & all emotions. I like to have a few projects
going at one time, so I don’t get bored and stagnant.
Dubcnn: Tell us more about the exclusive song, “Aired
Out” that you blessed us with here at Dubcnn?
I felt like it was time to air myself out to the world since everybody else
raps about how tough, dope & rich they are but nobody ever speaks about how
they really don’t have it like they say they do. I have to keep it real from
the doormat, feel me? The track was produced by Steve Dang, he’s my friend….
on MySpace. (laughing)
Dubcnn: Last words for Dubcnn?
Yeah, it’s time for all of us Westcoast heads to step our game up and flip
the script on the industry! Hip-hop is ever evolving but it always comes
back to the basics and I am going to do my part in helping to create good
hip-hop music that the entire hip-hop community will be proud of. Let’s get
it together fellow artists! Be sure to check me out on
MySpace and at
. Feel free to hit me up on the MySpace, I actually read all the messages
and respond back, so don’t think that I have some random marketing person on
my page. Lastly, I want to send a shout to my brother from another mother T
Dubb! Bad Seed all day! Also thanks to the whole Bogish Boy movement, Bogish
Boy Dj’s, Shadyville DJ’s, Wreckless Angels and every artist in the OC that
is active with me! Oh yeah… thanks to you Jon Hay and Dubcnn for allowing me
the opportunity to let the world know about me and what I have going on!
This only the beginning, trust me on that.
Epademik Gave Dubcnn.com A Shoutout! Check That