EROTIC D (PART 2)
2008) | Interview By:
Recently we brought you the first
selection of our exclusive interview with Erotic D. In
Part 1, we discussed
his journey from starting out as a party DJ in the early Ď80ís to connecting
with D.O.C., working with Dr. Dre and being involved with NWA from the
beginning, as well as giving us a detailed, first-hand account of the Death
Row Records formation. In Part 2, we dig a little deeper into his incredible
history by discussing his involvement with Death Row projects like the Chronic
and Doggystyle, as well as uncovering information about a few mysteries
surrounding some projects from around that time, such as the Dr. Dre & Ice
Cube original Helter Skelter album.
We talk about working on the D.O.C.ís Helter
Skelter project, who Erotic Dís influences were, the people heís ghost-written
for, and much, much more! Donít miss out on Part 2 with Erotic D!
Interview was done by phone in June 2008
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Dubcnn: You had mentioned that you did some ghost writing for some people, is
there anybody that you can mention or let us know?
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, I done wrote for all kinds of motherf-ckers like DOC,
MC Breed, and some of Dre's artists. I just put my all into their work because
they were breaking me off nice, helping me get my paper right. See, a lot of
times people would hire me to produce and didn't realize the writing skills
and then they would want me to write something for them. I wrote on Helter
Skelter, I wrote on a couple of MC Breed's albums; I am drawing a blank right
now but there are artists that are out right now that I done did work for. I
done helped a few artists get deals with Warner Brothers and different things
like that because I didn't want to be no artist. Before then, my thing was to
help n-ggaz get deals. Really, I just wrote for DOC, MC Breed, and Dre, or
whoever they would tell me to write for.
Dubcnn: We started out you were talking about cats like UTFO and Run DMC,
who were your main influences that got you into producing?
In the beginning I was writing before I was actually producing. It started out
basically with Run-DMC, but then I got really influenced by LL Cool J because
his first record dropped; so I would have to say those two because I just
liked them n-ggaz word play. Any record I do thereís always real raps in there
no matter what it's; just real street and gangster shit cause thatís where I
came from. I am a believer that you should always have skills and not just but
up there saying shit.
Dubcnn: I read an article about you being fascinated with sound and how it
fits with the story of a movie and subject matter and how you think an album
should make people see what they are hearing so you always put little scenes
between tracks to let the movie kind of see if you can score a soundtrack.
Would scoring movies still be something that you would want to do?
Itís something that I got to do even if I have to pay for the movie *laughs*.
Scoring a movie for me would be like imagine growing up movie around and not
really having a life long friend. As an ARMY kid we had to move almost every
year because my pops would get his orders so I didn't know anybody for long
periods of time. So, all I had was movies to watch and TV shows because I
never wanted to get close to any of the kids because I knew we would be moving
in a few years. So when I was watching them movies I seen how the music was
setting the scene, you know? If somebody about to die, I already know what
kind of music is going to be playing before it happens. If somebody wants to
be funny then the music has to be comedic. So I just started relating sounds
to life like that.
To me music tells us how to feel or we play music to tell how we feel or what
kind of mood we in cause one of them two is going to happen everyday of our
lives. When it comes to wanting to score a movie I just feel like that is some
of the most greatest talented shit you can do. If you have five to ten seconds
to create a chase scene and can pull it off that is dope to me because that
isnít a whole lot of time. If you have a theme song that people can recognize
as soon as it comes on and want to see your TV show that is incredible to me.
You donít have a lot of time to do that shit. So yeah scoring a movie or a TV
show is something that I really want to do I also say that is something I can
do until the day I die.
People are under this dumb ass assumption that we can't do hip hop 'til we die
which is bullsh-t. I know one thing you can do is make music for the masses
until you die because there is no age restrictions to making music but you
might hear people saying he is too old to be talking about that shit. When it
comes to sounds and music there ainít no restrictions on that so with the
music and the TV shows that is something that I feel I can do until I die. I
ainít never had a regular job no nine to five and donít plan on doing one as
long as God keeps giving me the talent to make music. Usually movies are
scored by orchestral cause I want to be able to work with a full orchestral
and get to know where the sounds in my keyboard come from. Just really
understand how all the instruments work so I can say I remember the day that
dude was playing the violin, the piccolo for me in this movie scene. Itís
about creating something out of nothing.
Dubcnn: You had a TV show at one time called the Erotic Hour, so is the TV
thing something you are trying to get back into or continue doing.
I got a TV show I am trying to deliver for myself right now. I am married now
and lucky my wife that like bitches and likes to see me with other bitches.
For all these years I have been able to survive in the game without having my
name on the front or make a hit record without the necessity, I done made
records because I been on this real life shit out here getting money with
these bitches unlike these fake-ass n-ggaz who I know is fake saying they
pimping n-gga I live the pimp life for real this last ten years. So me and my
wife are talking about this TV show that we are going to try out online first
called "US". Its really just me and her and cameras with us everyday whatever
happens, happens you know what I'm saying. If she is just going to the gym
then that is what it is, if we have a threesome popping off then that is what
it is, that shit in on there. We starting it online and if that goes well then
we take it to TV like my other show we going to have to tone some things down.
Try to develop an audience for it on one of my websites first and then when we
put it on TV people will have already known about it. That is something that
is open to us all the time, with the history we got people are always coming
up to me offering me stuff with TV but I turn them down.
Dubcnn: Let's get back into some of this Death Row situation. Actually did
you ever write for Eazy and them since you came up back with them?
Yeah, I wrote for Eazy, I wrote a lot of shit for a lot of them dudes. I would
turn the raps over and if they got used they got used and if not I didn't trip
I would just used them for other shit. There was shit that I wrote all the way
up until Helter Skelter with DOC I maintained my. Whenever ever they started
fight I wouldn't end my relationship with either one of them. So when Eazy
wasn't with DOC or Dre, I was still fucking with all of them. I wrote songs
for Eazy after he wasn't with Dre no more but they never came out.
Dubcnn: What projects were you involved in with Death Row?
The first project was the Chronic record I was there before they got started I
did music, mixed music and wrote songs for them and all that. By the time the
record came out I had done bummed out yaw know what I saying. Somebody decided
not to use any of my songs I donít know who did or who decided what but the
record turned out great but we had a nice one going ourselves thatís how that
goes. Some people just donít understand that they want to make it where they
just want to say I did all of the Chronic. I did not do all that record flat
Dubcnn: Did you work on Doggystyle or any of that stuff?
The only way I was involved with that was there is a dude named Sean Thomas
that used to play keyboards for me. I was taking care of the n-gga he was
living with me and shit down here in Texas and he was saving all of my sounds
in his keyboard because I didn't have one and didn't know how to play. So this
n-gga asked to use some of my clothes to help a n-gga move in Arkansas, the
next thing I know he up there with Dre and Suge them. He went up there the
first time and Suge and them whooped a n-gga yaw know sent his ass back to
Texas. By the time Doggystyle came out all the sounds that me and this n-gga
had worked together to make to shock them n-ggaz with, that n-gga had used all
of them. I got songs now that you would hear and be like ah that is the Murder
was the Case the n-gga went up there and gave them a song that sounded totally
similar to my shit. The same year I did it them n-ggaz put it out, I ainít
going to say with Doggystyle that I was up there doing music but I think that
a lot of my music ended up on that motherf-cker due to this n-gga but at the
same time I was still cool with them n-ggaz. When Suge first signed Snoop he
called me up down here in Texas and played Snoops freestyle for me and asked
me if I should sign him I was like shiiiiiit that n-gga is pretty damn good. I
bet Snoop don't remember that, we cool now, but I bet if you ask him he wont
remember freestyling over the phone he did not know who he was spitting for he
just know Suge told him to spit to the n-gga on the other side of the phone.
Dubcnn: If you have anything back then that you can give up I donít know
what I would give to hear that...
Iím going to try to dig some of it up because me and my artist Six-Two, he be
lying about he discovered him and shit. That n-gga been with me since right
around the time I was doing Helter Skelter. He was 16 at the time and he had a
group called Genocide. I was keeping in touch with them while I was doing
Helter Skelter in Atlanta. Before I took him to Dre, Snoop and Daz came by my
studio one day and we got to messing around and I have this track where me and
Six-Two were rapping against Snoop and Daz. Man, that shit is dope! I got to
pull that shit out and let n-ggaz listen to that. I got all kinds of shit from
Dre and Doc, and a bunch of motherf-ckers you ainít never heard of we ended up
not putting them out.
Dubcnn: Damn, I would love to hear those tracks!
Ah yeah, you fucks with your boy and I am going to take care of you. I got
record where you will be like he worked with that n-gga damn I wonder what
that sounds like. See I donít want to produce nobody that already sounds like
somebody. I want a motherf-cker that sounds like some old school shit that we
used to be able to get away with. I got a little project that I am working on
that I will be sharing with you in the next couple of months I got a solo
album that I am getting ready to drop soon so I will most def get you a couple
Dubcnn: Helter Skelter, whatís the history behind that with you? Dre was
talking about this record, before it came out were you supposed to be on that.
N*gga, me and Dre are so tight that I can get on any record that he put out; I
just refuse to sit up under Dre like some of these n-ggaz. As far as n-ggaz
not coming out I feel I get a better play from Dre because I donít rely on
Dre, so yeah I was going to be on Helter Skelter. You want to know some sh-t?
At the time when DOC told me the record was going to be called Helter Skelter
I felt really disrespected, but at the same time them n-ggaz broke me off
really, really nice. I was getting paid for doing what I was supposed to. Dre
hadn't put the record out yet and DOC told me straight up that he wanted to
name the record that before Dre could so that was the only motivation behind
Dubcnn: From that record, were some of those tracks old Dre tracks?
No, that was all me. I was in the studio for 8 months thinking how I can shock
the world. The only thing I used was the original beat that came in by itself
on the Brand New Formula, because Doc requested that. I just looped that
instrumental, but all them drum breaks and all that was all live sh-t. I hired
some of the best musicians I could find to play. The bass lines was live, the
saxophones were live, the congas was my sh*t. 80% of helter Skelter was all
live drums. We just mixed the sh*t out of those motherf-ckers!
I had five hundred thousand dollars so I didn't have to work, EVER! *laughs*.
I ain't got to watch my mouth; Iím the captain of the ship. DOC gave me the
keys and the concept of what he wanted and I created all that. He wanted to
use a couple of old Dre tracks though and Dre put an injunction on the record
which I was like God Damn there is a God thank you. Cause I donít want to
steal nobody music we ain't got to do that. There was one track he wanted to
use called "The year after", bringing us back to the two faced n-gga Sean
Thomas the keyboard, I let him hear the song and he played keyboards on the
original song so he went back and told Dre before the record came out. At the
time I was pissed of at him but I should have thanked him because that gave me
a chance to remix the record.
Dubcnn: Did you ever get to hear any of the stuff Dre and Cube had cooked
Ahh, yea, fa sho! When I get to kick it with Dre I hear all kinds of shit that
shit was dope, my n-gga.
Dubcnn: Do you know anything about a record called 'Gimme 50 Feet'?
No, When Dre do records he never really knows who the beat is going to be for;
if it was for 50 Cent, Ice Cube, Em or whoever you know what I'm saying? So I
might have heard the beat without anybody on it, but as far as a song ĎGimme
50 Feetí, I donít know anything about that. Dre donít title his records while
he is working on them.
Dubcnn: Do you know how far along they were with that original record.
I believe Dre told me that they didn't get to far cause conflict of whose
label it was going to be on and certain things that Dre didn't want said and
Cube wanted to be viewed as boss cause he is a boss, but the word I got out of
Dre is basically they didn't get to far. They couldnít work out the specifics.
Dubcnn: I know they had Natural Born Killaz, but I didnít know if there
Yeah they had a few more, but I donít know the titles of any of them, but
those motherf-ckers were ridiculous! They were dope!
Dubcnn: There are a lot of cats who would love to hear those tracks! Iíve
wondered why, in this day and age, we donít hear too many, if any, Dr. Dre
tracks leak out.
One thing about Dre, if you let a song leak, youíre f-cked. He will cut your
ass off. So being around him is a good spot for a career. He was having too
many songs leaked. I heard recently that this cat Crooked I wrote a song for
Dre and let it leak online and now Dre ain't going to use it. That is a great
way to f-ck up a great publishing check!
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