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Do you feel that Game "brought the West back"?

Yes, he did
17 (29.3%)
Fuck no...the west is NOT back
3 (5.2%)
No, but the Hyphy movement will
2 (3.4%)
No...it will take many artists and much time for the west to be back
33 (56.9%)
Nope, 50 Cent did
3 (5.2%)

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Re: In your opinion....did Game really bring the West back?
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2006, 12:24:35 PM »
Game is not good enough to single handedly bring back a whole coast.

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Re: In your opinion....did Game really bring the West back?
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2006, 12:26:54 PM »
when people say "back" do they mean 92-95, because i got news for yall, its never gonna be like that again.

so many of those classic albums went platinum plus, but now the big record labels want to keep it all commerical which makes it extremely hard for up-and-comming talent to sell like they used to, especially on the west coast where the majority of the national media doesnt even know whats going on.

not only that, but rap is much more diverse with the south doin its thing in a real big way, so i dont think you'll see the national spotlight dominated by one certain area like LA was doing back then 

Yeah people do mean "back" meaning 92-95, but most of us know that it will be a lot different if we do come "back". Many people always say how "Rap is commercialized" and "rap is wack now", but the people sayin that are the ones who grew up in the 90s...thing is, for people who grew up on 80s rap, the "gangsta rap" and all else was just as commercial to them as the "lean wit it rock wit it" is to many of us. We had the MC Hammers, Vanilla Ices, Sir Mix-a-lots who were highly "commercial" back then, and they were very entertaining and what they did. As far as the national spotlight bein dominated, even when we were "runnin shit", ALL the attention in the nation has never been on us. NY still had an overall advantage on us back then. The south may not have had as much of a presense back then, but the number of black people and those who were into hip hop in the south still had as much of an interest in rap as they do now, even though their cities and states weren't doin as much.

The west was on top for hundreds of reasons, even aside from Rap itself. The L.A. riots, hood movies, and even the OJ case just kept people interested in what was goin on in L.A., and that brought attention to all of California and not just L.A. I feel that we will probably never be back in the spotlight to that extent, but that we could at least have some influence in culture and music. L.A.'s culture itself has been washed away, and I see more cats in L.A. tryin to be east coast than anything else from their style of dress and rappin, which shows that we don't have what it takes to have that influence at this moment. The Bay's culture is strong as hell, and it is already gettin MAJOR attention right now in other states outside of CA, so that is a step

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Re: In your opinion....did Game really bring the West back?
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2006, 12:38:32 PM »
I think he brought light yes, but bringing a whole coast back single-handedly? Hell Nah..

It's an exciting transition period now, as there is ALOT of new cats coming through, if all these artists can ready there shit and drop within a few months, then shit could start to blow, not drop a hot album, wait 6 months .. nothin.

I think 2006 will be a succesful year for the westcoast and maybe a kick-start to a new era.
 

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Re: In your opinion....did Game really bring the West back?
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2006, 12:44:28 PM »
when people say "back" do they mean 92-95, because i got news for yall, its never gonna be like that again.

so many of those classic albums went platinum plus, but now the big record labels want to keep it all commerical which makes it extremely hard for up-and-comming talent to sell like they used to, especially on the west coast where the majority of the national media doesnt even know whats going on.

not only that, but rap is much more diverse with the south doin its thing in a real big way, so i dont think you'll see the national spotlight dominated by one certain area like LA was doing back then 

Yeah people do mean "back" meaning 92-95, but most of us know that it will be a lot different if we do come "back". Many people always say how "Rap is commercialized" and "rap is wack now", but the people sayin that are the ones who grew up in the 90s...thing is, for people who grew up on 80s rap, the "gangsta rap" and all else was just as commercial to them as the "lean wit it rock wit it" is to many of us. We had the MC Hammers, Vanilla Ices, Sir Mix-a-lots who were highly "commercial" back then, and they were very entertaining and what they did. As far as the national spotlight bein dominated, even when we were "runnin shit", ALL the attention in the nation has never been on us. NY still had an overall advantage on us back then. The south may not have had as much of a presense back then, but the number of black people and those who were into hip hop in the south still had as much of an interest in rap as they do now, even though their cities and states weren't doin as much.

The west was on top for hundreds of reasons, even aside from Rap itself. The L.A. riots, hood movies, and even the OJ case just kept people interested in what was goin on in L.A., and that brought attention to all of California and not just L.A. I feel that we will probably never be back in the spotlight to that extent, but that we could at least have some influence in culture and music. L.A.'s culture itself has been washed away, and I see more cats in L.A. tryin to be east coast than anything else from their style of dress and rappin, which shows that we don't have what it takes to have that influence at this moment. The Bay's culture is strong as hell, and it is already gettin MAJOR attention right now in other states outside of CA, so that is a step

i agree, i dont think the state of rap will ever be what it was back in 92-95 but id be very happy to see it somewhere inbetween.

i see what u mean about gangsta rap being as commercialized as todays bs that gets played on the radio to some of the older people, but the differences between the two are so huge that its almoast impossible to compare them. a lot of the ones that started the gangsta rap movement like dre, cube, snoop, etc. are legends that changed rap as we know it forever, not to mention possibly the most talented ever at what they did.

i know ny still got a lot of shine back then too but werent album sales DOMINATED by the west (mainly deathrow)? i guess numbers can be decieving though, because just the chronic alone sold more than damn near every other rapper's catalouge.

and the point i was trying to make about the south not doing as much back then was stricktly from an album sales perspective. nowadays the south has more artists than you can shake a stick at, so obviously the south is gonna support their backyard and buy a lot of their own albums. whereas back in the day there wasnt that much indi and local buzz going on, so i could see a lot of the people in the south buying the more mainstream albums.

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Re: In your opinion....did Game really bring the West back?
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2006, 11:03:13 PM »
The West will come back, but not like it did b4 cuz the the rise of the south, but mainly cuz ppl in L.A. are NOT supportive of their own region. If you tell a down south nigga that Laffy Taffy is wack he will defend it like you are dissing the entire south. Laffy Taffy is wack and he knows it, but he aint gone tell you that shit. On the other hand niggas in Cali will run with the slightest info or rumor about a WS rapper, so then when other niggas from other regions start to dis him we help them and IT MAKES US ALL LOOK WEAK.
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Re: In your opinion....did Game really bring the West back?
« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2006, 12:41:57 AM »
No...It will take many artists and time to bring the west back
 

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Re: In your opinion....did Game really bring the West back?
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2006, 01:16:44 AM »
I think Doctor's Advocate will be more West Coast oriented since its speareheaded mainly by Dre and not Fifty Cent this time!
 

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Re: In your opinion....did Game really bring the West back?
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2006, 01:21:24 AM »
props to game and 50 for bringing some attention to the west coast
but when a westcoast legend like cube chooses the indy way you should know the answer