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Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgūl on April 18, 2006, 12:35:49 PMOh, I get it. So Muslims spend 24-7 in there churches praying. They don't eat sleep or procreate because they're Muslims 24-7. Christains on the other hand are only Christains on Sunday according to you.So if a Christain is only a Christain when he's at church/praying, and Muslims are Muslims 24-7 then that means they spend 24-7 praying/worshiping. They don't eat, sleep, procreate, or do anything like that because a Muslim is a Muslim 24-7. No, not exactly.You see, Islam means "submission to the Creator". So it's a state of mind and a state of being. Even going to work becomes an act of worship, because we go to work for the sake of Allah; and we don't forget to remember him even when at work. There is giudance in the Qu'ran for how a Muslim should conduct his business. It's like that in all things; it's spending your whole life in submission to Allah. Even sex is an act of worship. The Prophet Muhammad (saws) was asked by his companions "How is it, that Allah rewards us for having sexual relations with our wife?" The Prophet Muhammad replied, "If you were out in the world engaging in unlawful activities Allah would punish you correct? Well, likewise; Allah rewards when you engage in what is permissable".
Oh, I get it. So Muslims spend 24-7 in there churches praying. They don't eat sleep or procreate because they're Muslims 24-7. Christains on the other hand are only Christains on Sunday according to you.So if a Christain is only a Christain when he's at church/praying, and Muslims are Muslims 24-7 then that means they spend 24-7 praying/worshiping. They don't eat, sleep, procreate, or do anything like that because a Muslim is a Muslim 24-7.
Why do you speak in second person plural? You seem to forget that you are American too, therfore you will suffer the same problems as me or any other American. How does that feel? But wait since you're Muslim you are not like the rest of Americans. Your religous discrimination sickens me like only a white man's discrimination can.
And what makes you think Christianty doesn't have the same belief?
Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgūl on April 18, 2006, 12:35:49 PMWhy do you speak in second person plural? You seem to forget that you are American too, therfore you will suffer the same problems as me or any other American. How does that feel? But wait since you're Muslim you are not like the rest of Americans. Your religous discrimination sickens me like only a white man's discrimination can.there's an interesting psychological/philosophical debate that you are touching on there. the basic notion is that you are what you identify with. i touched on this with shallow about how american blacks identify with a race; whereas jamaicans and africans identify with nations. (africans also identify with tribes within their nations); europeans identify with their nations, and even many white americans still identify with their european nations of origin.if you look at a religion like hinduism, it states that all of these identities are false; illusions that people believe which only serves to divide them.in a similar manner, the qu'ran states in several places that all people are the same, created from the same pair. thus, the only identification one should have is with other muslims. the qu'ran states that peaceful and amicable relations should be maintained with everyone, but the only identification one should make is with other muslims; as that is the only identification that matters.so while you challenge infinite and criticize him for denying "who he is"; why shouldn't infinite be allowed to define who he is on his own?
Because who he is and what he is is 2 diffrent things.
Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgūl on April 18, 2006, 01:21:14 PMBecause who he is and what he is is 2 diffrent things.is he left handed or right handed?is he tall or short?is he healthy or sick? happy or sad? noodles or rice? chicken or steak? boxers or briefs?what he is is alot of things, none that he has denied. yet you focus on one; and attribute more importance to one then all the rest. why is that? why can't infinite decide what is important to him?
Who you are is your choice. What you are is a combination of many factors. If you are born white can you change that? It's not what you idenify with, it's what you are. If you are born American can you vhange that? No. It's what you are.
He will say Americns are living a lie, but then say he isn't. It's a contradiction.
if he doesn't view himself as an american, than it makes sense.
I'm your average white American citizen
if he doesn't view himself as an american, than it makes sense. in some legal sense, sure; it's a contradiction; he is an american citizen. however, he isn't filing a legal brief. if he does not identify with americans; he can exclude himself freely.what i'm getting at is this; you aren't arguing his point that americans are living a lie; you are arguing the semantics of what it means to be american.why argue the semantics of some ancillary issue and ignore the meat of his argument which is that [most] americans are living a lie.
What I'm argueing is he contradictes himself in saying he is American, says Americans are living a lie, then thinks he isn't living a lie despite the fact that he is American.
Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgūl on April 18, 2006, 02:23:13 PMWhat I'm argueing is he contradictes himself in saying he is American, says Americans are living a lie, then thinks he isn't living a lie despite the fact that he is American.isn't his contradiction proof that americans are living a lie?
Basically, what I'm seeing in this thread is that people don't really care if the holiday is fake because they say "it's all about fun, family, and having a good time!"Well, that sounds nice, but if Americans are so much about family and having a good time, then why are they among the world leaders in suicide rates, anti-depression drug use, and broken, dysfunctional families?...the reason why is America is the best at selling you a fantasy. Everybody thinks they are going to grow up and be rich and famous and fall in love and have all the women and go on a great adventure; basically they think life is like the movies because most Americans spend their lives watching Tom Cruise and Tom Hanks movies. Many people chase after that fantasy and when they don't find anything on the other end they become frustrated.
^^ if that doesnt answer the ? im not sure what will