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Quote from: Habeeb Chief Mohammed Chubacca Imam Wookie Hadooken on May 03, 2006, 02:32:56 AMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 02, 2006, 11:27:03 AMThe only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.Okay, I'm sorry, but you're just ignorant. Even when they sell you a bong, they have signs that tell you how "water-pipes" filter the smoke and remove 50% of toxins from smoke. I didn't even think this was debatable, when you're smoking a joint, it's not filtered whatsoever, the smoke is passing straight into your lungs, which is really bad for you. I can't even believe I'm debating this...And I can't believe I have to debate whether ecstacy is worse for you than coke...WCC is a funny place...LOL
Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 02, 2006, 11:27:03 AMThe only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.
The only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...
Quote from: Overseer on May 03, 2006, 03:09:36 PMpatients dont gert heroin they get morphine which is not the same thing as heroin (diacetylmorphine)Surely the effects are similar though?
patients dont gert heroin they get morphine which is not the same thing as heroin (diacetylmorphine)
Quote from: Habeeb Chief Mohammed Chubacca Imam Wookie Hadooken a bong is definetly not 'healthier'.. ask your G.P.and drugs shouldnt be legalized, you could 'de-criminalize' certain drugs, such as weed and ecstacy... but having coke, crack, ice or heroin legalized, thats just asking for trouble. there have been several studies on the matter, which have revealed a decrease in carcinogenic particles in the smoke, decrease in compounds that induce a catatonic state (so it's a cleaner high), and a reduce in particles that are detrimental to the immune system. the conclusion is that water filtration is the safest way to smoke marijuana (or tobacco).here's a paper on the issue:http://www.neurophys.wisc.edu/~cozzi/maps4-4-93.htmlhere are highlights, i've edited it for brevity. the original paper has references to the original studies.In the late 1970's, a group based at the University of Athens Medical School (Greece) conducted a series of chemical and pharmacological studies on marijuana and tobacco smoke. <snip>Pharmacological tests (in mice) revealed that some of the water-trapped marijuana compounds were responsible for producing catatonia and for suppressing spontaneous motor activity. In contrast, the water-filtered smoke itself did not affect spontaneous motor activity and did not induce catatonia, though it was richer in THC. <snip>Research has shown that water filtration reduces both the amount of particulate matter and the number and quantity of toxic substances in the smoke that passes through it. In a 1963 study by Hoffman et al.,5 the water pipe was found to retain 90% of the phenol and 50% of the particulate matter and benzo-a-pyrene of the original tobacco smoke. In another study,6 tobacco smoke components that were passed through a water pipe showed only a minor hyperplasic reaction and no sebaceous gland destruction when they were painted onto mouse skin.<snip>Recently, Dr. Gary Huber at the University of Texas and colleagues from Harvard's School of Public Health conducted a cellular toxicity study of marijuana and tobacco smoke.8 This research group showed that passing marijuana or tobacco smoke through water, or even exposing the smoke to a wetted surface of about 48 square inches, effectively removed substances (acrolein and acetaldehyde) which are toxic to alveolar macrophages. Alveolar macrophages are one of the major defense cells of the lung and are an important component of the immune system. <snip>In summary, it appears that water filtration can be effective in removing components from marijuana smoke that are known toxicants, while allowing the THC to pass through relatively intact. <snip> While individuals vary greatly in their smoking technique, state of health, dosing regimen, and so on, it seems that many patients could benefit from the use of water pipes to deliver THC. This would allow patients to titrate their dose easily while reducing the health hazard associated with smoke.
a bong is definetly not 'healthier'.. ask your G.P.and drugs shouldnt be legalized, you could 'de-criminalize' certain drugs, such as weed and ecstacy... but having coke, crack, ice or heroin legalized, thats just asking for trouble.
Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 03, 2006, 04:28:39 PMQuote from: User on May 03, 2006, 03:43:49 PMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 01, 2006, 11:20:37 AMQuote from: User on April 27, 2006, 08:05:46 PMBoth Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it. LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.You're point is about as dumb as it gets. How do I abuse weed? LMAO. Because I enjoy smoking it? Your point is that someone who smokes weed for enjoyment is a "pathetic piece of life"...Your 'points' are moronic, and your brain level is equivelant to that of a monkey's, which is why no one has any respect for you... hahaha, you trying to justify yourself is hilariousAll The People at the city of hope who really would like to have some weed to help their stomach cancer or help their glaucoma really cant, because dumbfucks like you who get caught with weed, baggies and a scale give weed a bad name....you really have no use for weed, other than for "Enjoyment", they have a need for it, they cant use it, You ARE a pathetic excuse for a life because you will continue to Use it and not give a fuck.
Quote from: User on May 03, 2006, 03:43:49 PMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 01, 2006, 11:20:37 AMQuote from: User on April 27, 2006, 08:05:46 PMBoth Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it. LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.You're point is about as dumb as it gets. How do I abuse weed? LMAO. Because I enjoy smoking it? Your point is that someone who smokes weed for enjoyment is a "pathetic piece of life"...Your 'points' are moronic, and your brain level is equivelant to that of a monkey's, which is why no one has any respect for you...
Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 01, 2006, 11:20:37 AMQuote from: User on April 27, 2006, 08:05:46 PMBoth Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it. LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.
Quote from: User on April 27, 2006, 08:05:46 PMBoth Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it. LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.
Both Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it.
Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 03, 2006, 10:59:21 AMQuote from: Habeeb Chief Mohammed Chubacca Imam Wookie Hadooken on May 03, 2006, 02:32:56 AMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 02, 2006, 11:27:03 AMThe only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.Okay, I'm sorry, but you're just ignorant. Even when they sell you a bong, they have signs that tell you how "water-pipes" filter the smoke and remove 50% of toxins from smoke. I didn't even think this was debatable, when you're smoking a joint, it's not filtered whatsoever, the smoke is passing straight into your lungs, which is really bad for you. I can't even believe I'm debating this...And I can't believe I have to debate whether ecstacy is worse for you than coke...WCC is a funny place...LOLoh yes, because smoke passing through water is a magical filter... think before you speak. it makes it smoother thats true, doesnt mean it's safer.and coke has far worse ramifications mentally than ecstasy.
Quote from: Habeeb Chief Mohammed Chubacca Imam Wookie Hadooken on May 03, 2006, 05:51:23 PMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 03, 2006, 10:59:21 AMQuote from: Habeeb Chief Mohammed Chubacca Imam Wookie Hadooken on May 03, 2006, 02:32:56 AMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 02, 2006, 11:27:03 AMThe only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.Okay, I'm sorry, but you're just ignorant. Even when they sell you a bong, they have signs that tell you how "water-pipes" filter the smoke and remove 50% of toxins from smoke. I didn't even think this was debatable, when you're smoking a joint, it's not filtered whatsoever, the smoke is passing straight into your lungs, which is really bad for you. I can't even believe I'm debating this...And I can't believe I have to debate whether ecstacy is worse for you than coke...WCC is a funny place...LOLoh yes, because smoke passing through water is a magical filter... think before you speak. it makes it smoother thats true, doesnt mean it's safer.and coke has far worse ramifications mentally than ecstasy.Are you okay? Someone just posted a fucking article for you which contained proof, genius. How can you argue research? You're ignorant, stop spreading misinformation...
Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 04, 2006, 10:28:56 AMQuote from: Habeeb Chief Mohammed Chubacca Imam Wookie Hadooken on May 03, 2006, 05:51:23 PMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 03, 2006, 10:59:21 AMQuote from: Habeeb Chief Mohammed Chubacca Imam Wookie Hadooken on May 03, 2006, 02:32:56 AMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 02, 2006, 11:27:03 AMThe only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.Okay, I'm sorry, but you're just ignorant. Even when they sell you a bong, they have signs that tell you how "water-pipes" filter the smoke and remove 50% of toxins from smoke. I didn't even think this was debatable, when you're smoking a joint, it's not filtered whatsoever, the smoke is passing straight into your lungs, which is really bad for you. I can't even believe I'm debating this...And I can't believe I have to debate whether ecstacy is worse for you than coke...WCC is a funny place...LOLoh yes, because smoke passing through water is a magical filter... think before you speak. it makes it smoother thats true, doesnt mean it's safer.and coke has far worse ramifications mentally than ecstasy.Are you okay? Someone just posted a fucking article for you which contained proof, genius. How can you argue research? You're ignorant, stop spreading misinformation... ok but my g.p told me bongs are worse, the smoke travels deeper into the lungs.still, youre wrong about bongs wasting weed.
Quote from: Habeeb Chief Mohammed Chubacca Imam Wookie Hadooken on May 04, 2006, 04:23:20 PMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 04, 2006, 10:28:56 AMQuote from: Habeeb Chief Mohammed Chubacca Imam Wookie Hadooken on May 03, 2006, 05:51:23 PMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 03, 2006, 10:59:21 AMQuote from: Habeeb Chief Mohammed Chubacca Imam Wookie Hadooken on May 03, 2006, 02:32:56 AMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 02, 2006, 11:27:03 AMThe only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.Okay, I'm sorry, but you're just ignorant. Even when they sell you a bong, they have signs that tell you how "water-pipes" filter the smoke and remove 50% of toxins from smoke. I didn't even think this was debatable, when you're smoking a joint, it's not filtered whatsoever, the smoke is passing straight into your lungs, which is really bad for you. I can't even believe I'm debating this...And I can't believe I have to debate whether ecstacy is worse for you than coke...WCC is a funny place...LOLoh yes, because smoke passing through water is a magical filter... think before you speak. it makes it smoother thats true, doesnt mean it's safer.and coke has far worse ramifications mentally than ecstasy.Are you okay? Someone just posted a fucking article for you which contained proof, genius. How can you argue research? You're ignorant, stop spreading misinformation... ok but my g.p told me bongs are worse, the smoke travels deeper into the lungs.still, youre wrong about bongs wasting weed. LMAO. Do I really need to MAKE you admit you were wrong about this one too? Bongs don't waste weed, burning weed with a direct flame does...Once again, it doesn't take a genius to know that...
As for legalizing drugs. It probably depends on the drug. For example, I consider alcohol to be worse than marijuana. Allah specifically forbids alcohol in the Qu'ran. He says in it there is some good, but the bad outwieghs the good, so therefore he forbids it completely. Allah also mentions obstaining from all things harmful and not letting our own hands contribute to our destruction. America has a drug problem that goes deeper than smoking weed and sniffing cocaine. America is also addicted to perscription drugs and over the counter medicine. Infact, coffee is a stimulant, and if you took that away from American's for one day this country would shut down.One thing I don't agree with is throwing all these non-violent drug offenders in prison. That's attacking an outgrowth of the problem but it's not getting to the root of the tree. Imam Jamil Al Amin explains beautifully the roots of America's problems with addiction..."This society arouses within you desires and passions that make you seek to escape reality by being high. Everything is geared toward keeping you in a state of euphoria. One holiday follows the next: Christmas to New Years, to Easter, to Mothers Day, to Fathers Day, to the NBA playoffs, to the Superbowl, to the Championship fights, to Olympics. Everything keeps you high. Everything is geared towards keeping you away from encountering reality, everything is geared to keep you from remembering God. The problem is not so much crack and cocaine, but that we live in a system that can infect, that develops within you an appetite to divorce yourself from reality. Therefore when intoxicants are introduced to you as a physical experience, you have already been conditioned spiritually and mentally. A condition has been created where you begin to oppress yourself in a state that is unnatural."
Quote from: Don Rizzle on May 10, 2006, 03:16:12 AMiraq would just get annexed by iranThat would be a great solution. If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
iraq would just get annexed by iran
Quote from: User on May 03, 2006, 05:45:58 PMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 03, 2006, 04:28:39 PMQuote from: User on May 03, 2006, 03:43:49 PMQuote from: Now_Im_Blowed on May 01, 2006, 11:20:37 AMQuote from: User on April 27, 2006, 08:05:46 PMBoth Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it. LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.You're point is about as dumb as it gets. How do I abuse weed? LMAO. Because I enjoy smoking it? Your point is that someone who smokes weed for enjoyment is a "pathetic piece of life"...Your 'points' are moronic, and your brain level is equivelant to that of a monkey's, which is why no one has any respect for you... hahaha, you trying to justify yourself is hilariousAll The People at the city of hope who really would like to have some weed to help their stomach cancer or help their glaucoma really cant, because dumbfucks like you who get caught with weed, baggies and a scale give weed a bad name....you really have no use for weed, other than for "Enjoyment", they have a need for it, they cant use it, You ARE a pathetic excuse for a life because you will continue to Use it and not give a fuck.WHAT A MORON! LMAO...I don't live my life according to laws. If I want to smoke weed, I smoke weed. I'm not a fucking fruitcup like you who only does things because they're legal, I have a mind of my own and I make my own rules. You, on the other hand, don't have a brain AT ALL, so you need laws to tell you what's right and what's wrong. If I want to smoke weed, I do it. If the government wants to outlaw weed for people who need it for health concerns because I enjoy it, how the FUCK is that my fault? That's the fucking governments fault, you dumbshit...People should be able to smoke weed whenever they want. On top of that, you can still get a cannabis club card and smoke legaly in California, you fucking IDIOT. I am a pathetic excuse for a human life because I smoke weed and don't give a fuck? Dude, do you know you're the dumbest guy alive? I know I say this to you a lot, but it's 100% the truth...I've never met anyone whos thoughts are as dumb as yours. How the hell do you survive in this world with such a horrible brain? I'd hate to be you...