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living in 1997 won't help the west move forward...
Quote from: Untouchability on September 14, 2006, 07:25:39 PMliving in 1997 won't help the west move forward...dude, who the fuck is living in 1997? not me, not anyone else...do you think Snoop makes music like its 1997? Infact, hes prolly one of the only ones whos keeping with the times and creating fresh material. Like it or not, Snoop keeps it moving. Same as people like JayZ, Outkast, Nas ect. those dudes were all making albums in 1997, and still are at the top of their game today. It aint like just cuz Outkast is old they cant make dope music, and at the same time rep Atlanta with all the younger cats. Same thing Snoop is trying to do. stop being a hater
Quote from: PLANT on September 14, 2006, 07:31:12 PMQuote from: Untouchability on September 14, 2006, 07:25:39 PMliving in 1997 won't help the west move forward...dude, who the fuck is living in 1997? not me, not anyone else...do you think Snoop makes music like its 1997? Infact, hes prolly one of the only ones whos keeping with the times and creating fresh material. Like it or not, Snoop keeps it moving. Same as people like JayZ, Outkast, Nas ect. those dudes were all making albums in 1997, and still are at the top of their game today. It aint like just cuz Outkast is old they cant make dope music, and at the same time rep Atlanta with all the younger cats. Same thing Snoop is trying to do. stop being a haterthe reason why they moving up is the hip hop is confuse...i think everyone is confuse of where hip hop needs to go.
Hmm....doesn't sound like he was sayin anything negative to them.As far as the main cats who rep the "New West", they all respect Snoop and vice versa....and they've been in videos with him and all else. So if anbody, he's probably talkin to the cats who aren't even signed to any major companies.And just to let it be known....without sayin any names, there are actually a few young ass rappers around L.A. who don't respect Snoop anywhere near as much as they should. I remember when 213 was about to come out, and one of the youngsters who may or may not be under the "New West" title was talkin bout "fuck no I ain't buyin that shit, it's gonna be wack. Snoop ain't even dope anymore, he needs to hang it up" and for a non-rapper to talk that's cool....but for somebody who might even have to go under Snoop or Snoop's affiliates to be talkin at that level, that's hella disrespectful. And believe me, there are many young L.A. rappers who give WAY MORE props to Jay-Z and Biggie than they do to Ice Cube and Snoop, which is damn near blasphemy in my opinion.
Quote from: PLANT on September 14, 2006, 07:31:12 PMQuote from: Untouchability on September 14, 2006, 07:25:39 PMliving in 1997 won't help the west move forward...dude, who the fuck is living in 1997? not me, not anyone else...do you think Snoop makes music like its 1997? Infact, hes prolly one of the only ones whos keeping with the times and creating fresh material. Like it or not, Snoop keeps it moving. Same as people like JayZ, Outkast, Nas ect. those dudes were all making albums in 1997, and still are at the top of their game today. It aint like just cuz Outkast is old they cant make dope music, and at the same time rep Atlanta with all the younger cats. Same thing Snoop is trying to do. stop being a haterI'm not being a hater. I'm being real. Most of the people in this forum live in the past, and it's very apparent. If you need proof, look at the topics in this forum. Notice how there are only a handful of topics about artists that have come out within the last couple years. Everything else is Snoop this, Daz that, Cube this, Kurupt that, quik this, Ras Kass that, etc. Those guys have been around for over 15 years and it just seems repetative to talk about them when a good 70-80% have fallen off hard. Not to mention with all the new talent in the west, true west coast fans should be giving them a chance by listening to them and making posts about the newer cats. Building a buzz for these new artists will help get them signed and noticed by major labels, like with Bishop Lamont/Aftermath, Roccett/Jeezy's label, and G.Malone/Sony. These guys are the ones that really need the attention so they can build a fan base so that they can sell records/mixtapes. Snoop, Quik, Cube, etc. didn't have a huge fan base from the first day they picked up a mic (although with some of the Snoop fanatics on this board they might argue this), they built their reputations through mixtapes to get noticed. Older west coast cats weren't holding them back and trying to steal their shine. The vets on the west coast shouldn't be trying to draw attention to themselves. I'm gonna post the Pac quote again because it's relevant to some west coast artists that just don't know when to call it quits."All you old rappers tryin' to advance,It's all over now, take it like a man"
Quote from: Untouchability on September 15, 2006, 02:15:14 PMQuote from: PLANT on September 14, 2006, 07:31:12 PMQuote from: Untouchability on September 14, 2006, 07:25:39 PMliving in 1997 won't help the west move forward...dude, who the fuck is living in 1997? not me, not anyone else...do you think Snoop makes music like its 1997? Infact, hes prolly one of the only ones whos keeping with the times and creating fresh material. Like it or not, Snoop keeps it moving. Same as people like JayZ, Outkast, Nas ect. those dudes were all making albums in 1997, and still are at the top of their game today. It aint like just cuz Outkast is old they cant make dope music, and at the same time rep Atlanta with all the younger cats. Same thing Snoop is trying to do. stop being a haterI'm not being a hater. I'm being real. Most of the people in this forum live in the past, and it's very apparent. If you need proof, look at the topics in this forum. Notice how there are only a handful of topics about artists that have come out within the last couple years. Everything else is Snoop this, Daz that, Cube this, Kurupt that, quik this, Ras Kass that, etc. Those guys have been around for over 15 years and it just seems repetative to talk about them when a good 70-80% have fallen off hard. Not to mention with all the new talent in the west, true west coast fans should be giving them a chance by listening to them and making posts about the newer cats. Building a buzz for these new artists will help get them signed and noticed by major labels, like with Bishop Lamont/Aftermath, Roccett/Jeezy's label, and G.Malone/Sony. These guys are the ones that really need the attention so they can build a fan base so that they can sell records/mixtapes. Snoop, Quik, Cube, etc. didn't have a huge fan base from the first day they picked up a mic (although with some of the Snoop fanatics on this board they might argue this), they built their reputations through mixtapes to get noticed. Older west coast cats weren't holding them back and trying to steal their shine. The vets on the west coast shouldn't be trying to draw attention to themselves. I'm gonna post the Pac quote again because it's relevant to some west coast artists that just don't know when to call it quits."All you old rappers tryin' to advance,It's all over now, take it like a man"I hear what your saying. Real Talk. But it is hard to get into alot of the "new west" material because alot of them do not have deals. We as fans can't get them one. Tech has always been one of my favs, but I am losing patience waiting for a record from him. Crooked I too. Glasses Malone I think is really the only one out of the group that seems to have a deal in place that will allow him to drop something. Maybe the old west needs to help put these rappers on, but people are acting like they have all the money. Only a handful actually made any profit to do that. Hell you got Snoop putting Eiht and Kam out. I think everyone just needs to focus on the music instead of worrying what Snoop thinks or WC or complaining because I am new to the game. But defintely all this sly talking and arguing ain't puttin the west back on top.
I'm so sick of that "living in the past" shitbitch shut the fuck up, ain't nobody living in the pastthat's such a cop out in an argument to try to discredit someone else's response