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If these guys weren't cops and were just a bunch of gangsters none of these hypocrite rappers would have said shit. And if it were thugs from their area they'd write a song about it praising them and pretending like they were part of it. From what I understand, according to wikipedia (correct me if I'm wrong), Sean Bell and his friends weren't model citizens and Joseph Guzman was heard by undercover cops in the club threatening a girl saying he would get his gun. The men then proceeded to their car where they were instructed to put their hands up, but Bell continued to drive and hit a cop and a police van. Then the shots started flying. But people in the media mention it like he was just some man in his car going to his wedding and cops fired for no reason. It's like Rodney King, no one remembers that he was going 100 miles an hour for like 10 minutes before he got beat down. He could have killed people. All of a sudden he's a hero because he's black. There are plenty of innocent black men in the world that get mistreated by the police. Why rally around the guilty ones?
Quote from: Shallow on December 05, 2006, 07:45:33 AMIf these guys weren't cops and were just a bunch of gangsters none of these hypocrite rappers would have said shit. And if it were thugs from their area they'd write a song about it praising them and pretending like they were part of it. From what I understand, according to wikipedia (correct me if I'm wrong), Sean Bell and his friends weren't model citizens and Joseph Guzman was heard by undercover cops in the club threatening a girl saying he would get his gun. The men then proceeded to their car where they were instructed to put their hands up, but Bell continued to drive and hit a cop and a police van. Then the shots started flying. But people in the media mention it like he was just some man in his car going to his wedding and cops fired for no reason. It's like Rodney King, no one remembers that he was going 100 miles an hour for like 10 minutes before he got beat down. He could have killed people. All of a sudden he's a hero because he's black. There are plenty of innocent black men in the world that get mistreated by the police. Why rally around the guilty ones?are you fuckin kidding me Rodney King was going 100 mph yes but was it neccessary to have a group of cops beatin him down. the problem is the way police handle situations with black people as if they are animals. And if you cant realize that the whole Sean bell situation was fucked up which it is pretty clear then your fuckin retarted
Quote from: boycriedwolf619 on December 05, 2006, 10:11:17 AMQuote from: Shallow on December 05, 2006, 07:45:33 AMIf these guys weren't cops and were just a bunch of gangsters none of these hypocrite rappers would have said shit. And if it were thugs from their area they'd write a song about it praising them and pretending like they were part of it. From what I understand, according to wikipedia (correct me if I'm wrong), Sean Bell and his friends weren't model citizens and Joseph Guzman was heard by undercover cops in the club threatening a girl saying he would get his gun. The men then proceeded to their car where they were instructed to put their hands up, but Bell continued to drive and hit a cop and a police van. Then the shots started flying. But people in the media mention it like he was just some man in his car going to his wedding and cops fired for no reason. It's like Rodney King, no one remembers that he was going 100 miles an hour for like 10 minutes before he got beat down. He could have killed people. All of a sudden he's a hero because he's black. There are plenty of innocent black men in the world that get mistreated by the police. Why rally around the guilty ones?are you fuckin kidding me Rodney King was going 100 mph yes but was it neccessary to have a group of cops beatin him down. the problem is the way police handle situations with black people as if they are animals. And if you cant realize that the whole Sean bell situation was fucked up which it is pretty clear then your fuckin retartedRodney king was a known felon who beat his wife and robbed stores while assaulting the clerks. He could have killed someone in that run. He then taunted officers and refused to comply with orders. Did the police go too far? Sure, but there were other black men in the car with him and they weren't attacked at all. If King had hit a kid and killed her I doubt you'd be so sympathetic, and if that kid was your sister or daughter you'd probably be cheering while he was getting beat. 52 people died in the King riots, and thousands were injured. And for what, for some retard to get 4 million dollars and waste his life high on PCP while beating more of his wives and girlfriends?No one ever seems to mention police brutality when it's a white victim and many whites have died unlawfully by police. Sean Bell could have just put his hands up and gotten out of the car. Being a cop is a tough job and while everyone always seems to bring up the sociological reasons black males in the ghetto act out, no one ever seems to realize that the environment cops are in leads them to act out as well. Either condemn both sides or give both the excuse. You can't pick and choose what you want to defend.
Quote from: Shallow on December 05, 2006, 06:40:44 PMQuote from: boycriedwolf619 on December 05, 2006, 10:11:17 AMQuote from: Shallow on December 05, 2006, 07:45:33 AMIf these guys weren't cops and were just a bunch of gangsters none of these hypocrite rappers would have said shit. And if it were thugs from their area they'd write a song about it praising them and pretending like they were part of it. From what I understand, according to wikipedia (correct me if I'm wrong), Sean Bell and his friends weren't model citizens and Joseph Guzman was heard by undercover cops in the club threatening a girl saying he would get his gun. The men then proceeded to their car where they were instructed to put their hands up, but Bell continued to drive and hit a cop and a police van. Then the shots started flying. But people in the media mention it like he was just some man in his car going to his wedding and cops fired for no reason. It's like Rodney King, no one remembers that he was going 100 miles an hour for like 10 minutes before he got beat down. He could have killed people. All of a sudden he's a hero because he's black. There are plenty of innocent black men in the world that get mistreated by the police. Why rally around the guilty ones?are you fuckin kidding me Rodney King was going 100 mph yes but was it neccessary to have a group of cops beatin him down. the problem is the way police handle situations with black people as if they are animals. And if you cant realize that the whole Sean bell situation was fucked up which it is pretty clear then your fuckin retartedRodney king was a known felon who beat his wife and robbed stores while assaulting the clerks. He could have killed someone in that run. He then taunted officers and refused to comply with orders. Did the police go too far? Sure, but there were other black men in the car with him and they weren't attacked at all. If King had hit a kid and killed her I doubt you'd be so sympathetic, and if that kid was your sister or daughter you'd probably be cheering while he was getting beat. 52 people died in the King riots, and thousands were injured. And for what, for some retard to get 4 million dollars and waste his life high on PCP while beating more of his wives and girlfriends?No one ever seems to mention police brutality when it's a white victim and many whites have died unlawfully by police. Sean Bell could have just put his hands up and gotten out of the car. Being a cop is a tough job and while everyone always seems to bring up the sociological reasons black males in the ghetto act out, no one ever seems to realize that the environment cops are in leads them to act out as well. Either condemn both sides or give both the excuse. You can't pick and choose what you want to defend.youre an absolute idiot. rodney kind didnt kill a kid, so theres no reason to hate him for that. one reason people were so upset was that he got his ass beaten in fir no legitimate reason and then the racist cops got acquitted. are you that dense? sure, he was speeding well over the limit for a period of time, but that doesnt warrant assault from multiple officers. I guarantee you there hasnt recently been a white beat up like rodney king, or shot up like amadou diallou because police thought his wallet was a gun. you say that the environments cops are in lead them to lead a certain way; its called racial profiling. they go into the hood, see a bunch of black guys, and their trigger fingers get a little excited. sad but true. only condemn where condemnation is due. if bell really did drive his care into a store window and nearly hit an officer while resisting and not while trying to escape the gunshots, then he deserves blame. i highly doubt that is the case. any way you look at it, the cops deserve punishment. they deserve to be kicked off of the force and put into jail for manslaughter. that obviously wont happen because theyre cops, and even when you dump 31 unlawful shots into an unarmed man, nothing substantial seems to happen to most cops in these scenarios. I will be surprised if any of them do hard time, which they should. but thats life. unfair life, but life.
fuck the cops,well not all
Quote from: Shallow on December 05, 2006, 07:45:33 AMIf these guys weren't cops and were just a bunch of gangsters none of these hypocrite rappers would have said shit. And if it were thugs from their area they'd write a song about it praising them and pretending like they were part of it. From what I understand, according to wikipedia (correct me if I'm wrong), Sean Bell and his friends weren't model citizens and Joseph Guzman was heard by undercover cops in the club threatening a girl saying he would get his gun. The men then proceeded to their car where they were instructed to put their hands up, but Bell continued to drive and hit a cop and a police van. Then the shots started flying. But people in the media mention it like he was just some man in his car going to his wedding and cops fired for no reason. It's like Rodney King, no one remembers that he was going 100 miles an hour for like 10 minutes before he got beat down. He could have killed people. All of a sudden he's a hero because he's black. There are plenty of innocent black men in the world that get mistreated by the police. Why rally around the guilty ones?bro... im from NY and it didnt happen like that. And if you lived in NY to see how the NYPD treats all people in general you would agree. They treat white people like shit, just imagine how bad that treat black people. Everything that is coming out of the cops side is bull shit. The cop approached him with his piece out and didnt identify himself as a cop. Thats when sean bell hit the other cars b/c he saw someone come with his piece and he was trying to get out of there. Thats when shots popped off. And c'mon explain to me how 50 shots is justified. One cop almost popped off 2 clips.